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Alek Azam
Screaming Hayabusa
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:35:00 -
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Hi Dave o/ |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4295
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Posted - 2014.03.15 07:32:00 -
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People use similar "evidence" to "prove" I'm a James 315 alt, who is supposedly a Mittens alt. In fact, I add "u's" to some words quite frequently on purpose just to muddy the waters because it's funny. After all, surely no one would give Currin Trading so much isk, other than to shill bid investments higher, right?
As for Bad Bobby and Blueprint Seller, I can confirm they are different people. BS basically snapped up the corp ticker for giggles. There are lots of EVE players I am close with who post on the forums and in game chats when I do... because we're on simialr schedules silly lol
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Blueprint Seller
The Blueprint Shop
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Posted - 2014.03.15 08:21:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:People use similar "evidence" to "prove" I'm a James 315 alt, who is supposedly a Mittens alt. In fact, I add "u's" to some words quite frequently on purpose just to muddy the waters because it's funny. After all, surely no one would give Currin Trading so much isk, other than to shill bid investments higher, right?
As for Bad Bobby and Blueprint Seller, I can confirm they are different people. BS basically snapped up the corp ticker for giggles. There are lots of EVE players I am close with who post on the forums and in game chats when I do... because we're on similar schedules silly lol I can shrug off being accused of being Bad Bobby, but the idea of being in some way associated with you makes me feel quite nauseous. |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2101
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:28:00 -
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Blueprint Seller wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:People use similar "evidence" to "prove" I'm a James 315 alt, who is supposedly a Mittens alt. In fact, I add "u's" to some words quite frequently on purpose just to muddy the waters because it's funny. After all, surely no one would give Currin Trading so much isk, other than to shill bid investments higher, right?
As for Bad Bobby and Blueprint Seller, I can confirm they are different people. BS basically snapped up the corp ticker for giggles. There are lots of EVE players I am close with who post on the forums and in game chats when I do... because we're on similar schedules silly lol I can shrug off being accused of being Bad Bobby, but the idea of being in some way associated with you makes me feel quite nauseous.
Well if i had to choose between being a BB or an erotica alt i wouldn't hesitate a second to go for a BB alt .
BB's one of the few scammers who isn't behaving like he invented the wheel or a massive attentionwhore unlike 'some other' scammers , i quite like that fellow .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Billy Hix
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2014.03.15 12:35:00 -
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Well there goes any hope I ever had of becoming a 'real MD guy'
I thought if I invested a little here and there doing my research. Got into T2 manufacturing and trading and did my research. AND I then did a load more research, one day I could be one of you lot. I am just not smart enough to do what Raw just did.
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flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2103
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:01:00 -
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define ''real MD guy'' ....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.15 17:06:00 -
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flakeys wrote:define ''real MD guy'' .... A guy who doesn't get chewed up by flakeys :) Any colour you like. |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2103
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Posted - 2014.03.15 18:02:00 -
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Samroski wrote:flakeys wrote:define ''real MD guy'' .... A guy who doesn't get chewed up by flakeys :)
Well he did mention being smart is one thing a ''real MD guy '' needs , so we can scratch my name from that list .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Phoebe Halliwel
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.16 19:17:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:Bobby's not on my bad side. Quite the opposite in fact.
I actually have slightly mixed feelings about this. After the moment of satisfaction when all the pieces fell together and after the thrill of the chase had worn off I slightly regretted spending so much of my time looking after people who were going to make a silly investment without doing any due diligence at all, and who were falling into one of the oldest MD traps, at the expense of someone who I like a lot (although it's unlikely he would have actually scammed on this one as the potential for pulling in much more would have been pretty good after paying this one back). Not to mention the lost opportunity costs from about five hours when I could have been trading, which probably amounts to a couple of billion or more.
I have been trying to get people on MD to invest sensibly for some four years now with pretty much zero success and the great irony of this is that BS/BB is one of the only people who does invest with proper care. Of course, he's also one of the reasons care is needed! You did the right thing here, even if it isn't BB a collateralised loan should really be held by a 3rd party - it's trivial to set up. If you keep quiet because you think it's a likeable scammer you're effectively assisting.
Having said that I had a private collateralised loan with BB & shares in Ugly Toys just before the T4U theft - both of which I think I managed to cash out of successfully. Definitely the private loan, I'm hazy on the other. Despite the T4U scam which I lost a couple of billion in, all my dealings with BB were positive. He gave good advice, I think he put me in touch with you at one point over a proposition, and he took some BPOs off my hands that I despised (Hyperions lol).
That Blueprint Seller character has been mistaken for one of my alts in the past too when I was heavily into research, simply because I have various "Blueprint" variation characters. It's pretty obvious from the posting style its someone else, but it used to annoy the hell out of me in trade channels and scc depending on which character I was on :P |
Billy Hix
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2014.03.16 23:04:00 -
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flakeys wrote:define ''real MD guy'' ....
Someone who has more successful investments/deals (in terms of isk per hour) than unsuccessful ones (measure of success is debatable)
Someone who can follow enough of the Meta to have a decent grasp on what the heck is going on in the background.
Someone who is jaded enough to enjoy bitching at everyone else on the forum :-)
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Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
175
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:21:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:I have been trying to get people on MD to invest sensibly for some four years now with pretty much zero success and the great irony of this is that BS/BB is one of the only people who does invest with proper care. Of course, he's also one of the reasons care is needed! I'd say your efforts don't go unnoticed.
I follow MD very closely and after some time it's easy to notice the few outstanding people. Actually I might join the group of investors at some time (with proper care).
The main problem is trust. All information that is presented when someone is offering a bond is provided to build up enough trust so that investors part with their money. But we all know that promises are easily broken and that's where collateral comes in. But collateral is only as good as the person holding it. And that brings us back to trust.
At the moment there are exactly 4 people who are posting in MD regularly who I would trust to hold a collateral so that I would invest a larger ammount. I think it's not hard to guess the correct names (actually I thought there were five, but then I wrote down the names - then again, maybe I forgot someone ). In addition to that there's another (who's not posting in MD very often) who I would trust, one who I might trust if I think about it hard enough and one who I wish I could trust, because I like the way (s)he posts. It helps when the person in question would risk losing more by breaking trust than (s)he might gain by not honoring the agreement(s). And frankly, most people don't qualify for that (I wish I would, but I'm simply too low key for that atm).
TL;DR Keep up the good work. People (like me) are looking to learn from you.
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Rykker Bow
The Mjolnir Bloc
147
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Posted - 2014.03.17 12:38:00 -
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Myriad Blaze wrote: It helps when the person in question would risk losing more by breaking trust than (s)he might gain by not honoring the agreement(s)
That's the second best collateral in the game. Some players spend years building that trust and is more valuable to them than any amount of isk in the game.
Most of my loans toward other players now is to long standing friends given without interest because 1. The isk is not the issue because if they were to actually steal, the loss of a friend would sting more than the loss of the isk and 2. They do the same for me without hesitation.
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