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Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
Forsaken Asylum
1535
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Posted - 2014.02.23 23:48:00 -
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Chihiro Chugakusei wrote:I've posted on these forums a few times over the years, and I've never encountered anything but hostility, negativity, insults, etc. What the fk is up with this? I've been vocal in many gaming communities, but have never have I felt so hated as I do on these forums.
This is EVE.
What part of that don't you get ?
OH... sorry.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
297
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Posted - 2014.02.24 00:03:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Because people are in general, rabbits. They tend to like to cluster up into like minded groups.
A while ago, a particular group decided that they didn't want the playstyle of another group to exist anymore. So they began a forum campaign to effect change to have the offending playstyle nerfed.
And it happened. It keeps on happening. And people noticed that, they noticed that CCP caved to forum whining and set the precedent that they will do it again (and they recently have).
Hence the hostility. Because if you're making a "suggestion", it's damn near a guarantee that it's a nerf to someone else's playstyle.
this
Most of the posters here are forum alts with an ulterior motive.
Despite claims that EVE is a sandbox, if anything CCP are actually MORE likely to interfere in the game to "balance" 0.0 wars or tournament play or in-game economic issues in response to player complaints than the devs in virtually any other game.
Sandbox simply means minimal PvE pre-created content, it does NOT exclude dev intervention in the game as a result of forum whining and complaints. |
Zander Kumamato
Madz Legion
Madz Republic
9
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Posted - 2014.02.24 00:46:00 -
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Chihiro Chugakusei wrote:I've posted on these forums a few times over the years, and I've never encountered anything but hostility, negativity, insults, etc. What the fk is up with this? I've been vocal in many gaming communities, but have never have I felt so hated as I do on these forums.
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
The thing that gets my rocks off is those that think the moral compass is separated when you're playing and when you're not for your actions against someone else. "It's just a game man, That allows me to be a jerk" |
Grainsalt
While in Empire
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
179
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Posted - 2014.02.24 00:56:00 -
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Rabbits have long to be known as one of natures most deadliest of creatures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5wmw_Ro4pM |
Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1058
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Posted - 2014.02.24 01:01:00 -
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Agondray wrote:It's called talking crap in real life is dangerous, while here people can hide behind their toon and be tough with out having the possibility of repercussions
I actually try and be more polite on the forums than in real life.
I got into alot of fights as a kid.
like, enough that by high school people were telling kids who didnt know me to not start one because i'd take it too far. 
I at least try and be helpful and point out sensible things on the forums though. |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1455
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Posted - 2014.02.24 01:04:00 -
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v0v
Never noticed it.
BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Anhenka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
171
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Posted - 2014.02.24 01:07:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:v0v
Never noticed it.
That's because members of CVA kind of need to be have a thick skin considering all the **** CVA gets for their policies.
Now if even you start feeling it's a negative and hostile place, things may have completely devolved into chaos and anarchy.
But hey, love you CVA guys.....maybe.. |
Jasmine Panzer
State War Academy
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2014.02.24 01:27:00 -
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Silvara Nocturn wrote:Everything constructive has already been said a thousand times, so your left with snark and trolling.
fresh and exciting topics are very rare.
^^ this, mostly. And btw OP, your topic isn't particularly fresh/exciting either. |
Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
378
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Posted - 2014.02.24 02:10:00 -
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I think this image sums it up nicely. |
SpoonRECKLESS
LOGI R Us
170
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Posted - 2014.02.24 02:19:00 -
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Chihiro Chugakusei wrote:I've posted on these forums a few times over the years, and I've never encountered anything but hostility, negativity, insults, etc. What the fk is up with this? I've been vocal in many gaming communities, but have never have I felt so hated as I do on these forums.
What did you post tho? Was it a grr goons post? Miners need protection post? I mean if you avoid the things most get upset about you won't get yelled at.
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Divine Entervention
The Lonetrek Militia
Rapidus Incitus Pactum
32
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:07:00 -
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]People like to pretend that when they sit on a computer the actions they perform aren't them performing those actions. Like some magical wall forms seperating themselves from the things they do.
It's a delusional thought process, to cause actions and believe you're not affected by the reaction.
It's wrong, but whatever, they don't care about right and wrong, they only care about immediate self gratification.
If you can pretend to be a monster, you are one. |
Divine Entervention
The Lonetrek Militia
Rapidus Incitus Pactum
32
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:08:00 -
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well I meant to click edit and quoted myself |
Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
833
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:12:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:BECAUSE YOUR FACE!
I often wonder the same thing. It's probably a result of the HTFU attitude predominant in EVE. You spend so much time being hostile, preachy or distrustful in game that it carries over to the forums.
i agree. Sins there are games like MOBA aka LoL/dota 2/Smite and more the are ridicules offense communities in that kind f game some of them take it with them in other games.... like eve  |
Sylveria Relden
Spartan Shipyards
THE H0NEYBADGER
18
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:24:00 -
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They weren't held enough as children? Who knows?
Haters are gonna hate- easier to destroy than it is to create.
You must be THIS tall to use the "I WIN" button. |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
2536
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:32:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:People like to pretend that when they sit on a computer the actions they perform aren't them performing those actions. Like some magical wall forms seperating themselves from the things they do.
It's a delusional thought process, to cause actions and believe you're not affected by the reaction.
It's wrong, but whatever, they don't care about right and wrong, they only care about immediate self gratification.
If you can pretend to be a monster, you are one.
You know, you come across as exactly the kind of person the OP is on about. Negative and hostile to the bone.
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Chihiro Chugakusei
Traveler's accomodation
15
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:32:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Chihiro Chugakusei wrote:I've posted on these forums a few times over the years, and I've never encountered anything but hostility, negativity, insults, etc. What the fk is up with this? I've been vocal in many gaming communities, but have never have I felt so hated as I do on these forums. Amusingly, you revert to profanity in asking your question about why the forum is a hostile, negative place filled with insults.
I didn't direct my profanity at anyone in particular, or even at you. I have not been hostile, or hypocritical. I have to say that there is difference between expressing frustration, and belittling or slandering someone, or in my case, following me through all my posts and talking ****, as one person has done. |
Chihiro Chugakusei
Traveler's accomodation
15
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:39:00 -
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Sylveria Relden wrote:They weren't held enough as children? Who knows?
Haters are gonna hate- easier to destroy than it is to create.
I agree. It seems like some of the 'offenders' have just perfected the art of shooting down other people's ideas. They offer nothing themselves though in terms of new topics or ideas.
Anyhow. Rather than QQ any more than I already have, I will just try to get with the program and ignore them, or try and take actual criticism if there is any to be had.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
993
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:40:00 -
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How many forums have you posted this on. Like every MMO forum?
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Anhenka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:43:00 -
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I think a lot of the perceived hostility depends on how well you follow the expectations of the forum and it's subsections.
OP would probably consider me an angry, hostile person, on the basis of how I have responded to all of his Features & Ideas threads. I personally don't consider myself hostile, I am quite a friendly person in game, in person, and on coms.
But when you place an idea onto a public forum dedicated to discussion, peer review, and finding everything possible that is wrong with a proposed idea in order to refine it to a workable state, then repeatedly posting rant threads about how something needs to change because you don't like it, or because you think it's OP, you will get you nothing but the unending scorn and ridicule of the community.
Because that's how we weed the workable and potentially usable ideas from the awful, ranting, only my idea is the right one threads.
As for the rest of you who encounter hostility outside the F & I subsection, yeah, sorry, the eve playerbase are a wee bit assholish. |
Chihiro Chugakusei
Traveler's accomodation
15
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:45:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:How many forums have you posted this on. Like every MMO forum?
No... |
Ai Shun
1067
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Posted - 2014.02.24 04:04:00 -
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Chihiro Chugakusei wrote:I didn't direct my profanity at anyone in particular, or even at you. I have not been hostile, or hypocritical. I have to say that there is difference between expressing frustration, and belittling or slandering someone, or in my case, following someone through all their posts and talking ****, as one person has done today.
Sure, hence the amusement at it. I think if you're talking about a forum filled with happy thoughts and people engaging in civil conversation, dropping a small f-bomb in the middle of it probably doesn't contribute much to that land of ponies and unicorns and rainbows, but given what you say you've experience that is an understandable response. I'd have probably responded with a great deal more. Anyway, thanks for giving me the chance to smile at some of the random inanity on the internet today.
You can click where a players' name is underneath their portrait. That takes you to a drop down menu that allows you to hide posts. That way you can hide the posts of the person that was following you around and harassing you. Before doing that though, click the flag next to one of their posts and report the post if you believe it was OTT. (Keeping in mind that discourse here is ... a little more ... robust ... than in other forums) |
Chihiro Chugakusei
Traveler's accomodation
15
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Posted - 2014.02.24 04:08:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Chihiro Chugakusei wrote:I didn't direct my profanity at anyone in particular, or even at you. I have not been hostile, or hypocritical. I have to say that there is difference between expressing frustration, and belittling or slandering someone, or in my case, following someone through all their posts and talking ****, as one person has done today. Sure, hence the amusement at it. I think if you're talking about a forum filled with happy thoughts and people engaging in civil conversation, dropping a small f-bomb in the middle of it probably doesn't contribute much to that land of ponies and unicorns and rainbows, but given what you say you've experience that is an understandable response. I'd have probably responded with a great deal more. Anyway, thanks for giving me the chance to smile at some of the random inanity on the internet today. You can click where a players' name is underneath their portrait. That takes you to a drop down menu that allows you to hide posts. That way you can hide the posts of the person that was following you around and harassing you. Before doing that though, click the flag next to one of their posts and report the post if you believe it was OTT. (Keeping in mind that discourse here is ... a little more ... robust ... than in other forums)
Cool, thank you very much. I will do this. |
Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters
3085
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Posted - 2014.02.24 05:20:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:If you can pretend to be a monster, you are one.
Ok, gotta stop you there and turn on my red light, or so to speak.
What does your theory make of roleplayers then?
Or writers in general who can convey "monster" characters?
And take it a step further, what does it make of actors in the real world even?
I like a lot of your posts, despite disagreeing with most of them, as you've got a ton of passion and insight that will serve you really well when you eventually find your niche in EVE (I'm left feeling you're floundering looking for an outlet or purpose ingame?), but right now it's more like a dog on heat which has broken off it's chain. 
Not that that's always a bad thing either though...
/Red light off
Major (Ret.) Caldary Naval Militia | Morale Officer (Pinup model)
Just an innocent explorer!-á pâä | -áWormhole Sisters of EVE
Herrbert: "womwomwowmwoaugharwajwowoooommm"
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
375
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Posted - 2014.02.24 05:24:00 -
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To the original post:
Sometimes it's more fun to be naughty than nice
If only I could convince my wife of that.
eve-bazaar - I'm not associated with them, but support it as a worthwhile service |
Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
297
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Posted - 2014.02.24 07:00:00 -
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Chihiro Chugakusei wrote:I've posted on these forums a few times over the years, and I've never encountered anything but hostility, negativity, insults, etc. What the fk is up with this? I've been vocal in many gaming communities, but have never have I felt so hated as I do on these forums.
Eve is a very good approximation of real life. Without the ability to actually buy anything nice you would buy in real life if you got rich. So people get bitter over the time..
In after the lock :P -á
- CCP Falcon
www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies |
Anhenka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
176
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Posted - 2014.02.24 07:10:00 -
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The forum is also highly negative in response to negativity.
Yes the entire F&I forum (including myself heavily) jumped on the OP's ass and drowned his ideas in a storm of negativity and angry comments.
That being said, the exact same thing happens to each and every person who presents ideas without reasoning and with grand "Of course I'm right and anyone who disagrees with me is bad" statements, refuses to listen to any feedback, insists on game changes without evidence or support, and insists that anyone with differing opinions is "Just making excuses" for things he thinks are overpowered. Not to mention starting rant threads on topics and then preemptively calling anyone who disagrees with him terrible in the original post.
What he got in community hate and flaming, he had coming. |
Garia666
CyberShield Inc
Triumvirate.
66
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Posted - 2014.02.24 07:32:00 -
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Ever since the goons arrived EVE and the forums went to ****..
however its sattisfying to kill em, and that keeps me happy :) |
Grunanca
Doughboys
Shadow Cartel
155
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Posted - 2014.02.24 07:35:00 -
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Chihiro Chugakusei wrote:I've posted on these forums a few times over the years, and I've never encountered anything but hostility, negativity, insults, etc. What the fk is up with this? I've been vocal in many gaming communities, but have never have I felt so hated as I do on these forums.
While I agree with you that its wierd people are so negative all the time, I disagree with it being bad in EVE compared to other games. What I saw back when playing Starwars Galaxies was 10 times worse than this. EVE is actually pretty good compared to the WOW and LOL forums. Glad im play neither of the games, because its amazing how many ways people there invent new sentences with the one goal of hating and flaming. |
Cassia Aetius
Antumbra Corporation
17
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Posted - 2014.02.24 08:00:00 -
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Well, at least here you'll be trolled or ridiculed by someone smart enough to form a sentence.
In League of Legends it would look something like this, "omfg u fgt go **** uyo mom **** ass n***** get cancer!!!!!!!!!". |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2023
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Posted - 2014.02.24 08:15:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Chihiro Chugakusei wrote:I've posted on these forums a few times over the years, and I've never encountered anything but hostility, negativity, insults, etc. What the fk is up with this? I've been vocal in many gaming communities, but have never have I felt so hated as I do on these forums. Sometimes people here can be nice. But my experience is that negativity begets negativity.
This is true for me.
I voted for Malcanis, little realizing that he would use his year on the CSM as a platform to spam the forms with negative, tough guy comments.
As a result, I wish him nothing but misfortune in the game.
At least I do on the odd occasion that I notice him in the forums nowadays.
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