The definition of "Goon" in the mind of anyone making an argument against us is very broad; in fact, there are much fewer Goons play EVE Online than most people seem to believe, and this in spite of the fact that I frequently try to correct these misconceptions.

Whens all this start?

Wasent hellcat banned for something like this like 6 months ago or something?

Devs are on our side

Seems like it is just what the game was designed for, massive user co-operation. It makes mining a seasonal activity, like farming. January thru March is winter for the miner. Time to do research or play the market or go into production. The players are shaping the game as much as the game is shaping the players, and that is a good thing.

Trap sprung!

The vast majority of minerals that are used to build stuff in Eve come from mission runners reprocessing loot and botters killing millions of drones in the drone regions.

No it doesn't. Try building anything bc and above (or bulk frigs to cruisers) from reprocessed mission loot. Manufacturers do not manufacture the bulk of their ships from mission loot.

You lost me at "Try building anything...

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Lets make this easy for some of you.

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The balance of supply and demand isnt that hard to understand.

It harms the newer players still starting out.

I have been following the thread and though some think that the killing of transport type ships is fun, it should be considered that there are some of us who haul stuff because it can be relaxing.

I haul regular contract cargoes, nothing too complicated or expensive. I have seen some of the down right silly ganker contracts that demand high ISK collateral and accordingly avoid them for good reason.

I am a relatively new player and it can be a pain when some idiot out of the blue blows a ship and pod kills for nothing more than the so called satisfaction of having a kil stat.

Some think that by driving up the prices there will be greater satisfaction in the game. I beg to differ. It harms the newer players still starting out. Before one harps that it is part of the game, there are some things to consider.

Though it might help the economy in the short term, in the long term it can have far reacing effects.

Removing bots which might be operating is a goal it is those like me who manually fly our lowly cargo vessels that end up getting the worst end of it.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the hauler community decided for a period of two weeks not to move ANY cargos or materials.

Hope all of you remember the actions one takes can have far reaching effects that go far beyond the Sec Rate.

Ballermaris

My my my...

A bit cranky are ya...

I make enough ISK to get by and still enjoy the universe too.

Perhaps you got short changed on a contract... When I lost my two contract hauls I explained to the owners what happened they were understanding and wanted the names of the ones that ganked me.

I was happy to provide and did so.

If I get ganked again while providing a cargo haul, I'll do the same again and hopefully someone will get podded nicely back to the iceage...

Have a nice day.

Ballermaris.

Yeesh....4 posts ago you were warning of the apocalyptic, far-reaching consequences of ganking haulers.....and now you hope people gank you so you can go tattle to the contract owners and hope they have the balls to do something about it....

Real consistent there pal....

No it doesn't. Try building anything bc and above (or bulk frigs to cruisers) from reprocessed mission loot. Manufacturers do not manufacture the bulk of their ships from mission loot.

Sure they do. When they buy cheap minerals off the market in Jita they don't know or care where they came from.

Hulkageddon? I better trade my Hulk for a Covetor, then. Instant gratification!

I got tired of idiots taking my legitimate courier jobs and going and getting themselves blown up so I tend to do my own hauling now.