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Niki Silver	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:21:00 - [31] Originally by: nickycakes Originally by: Niki Silver We are fighting a multi front war against many enemies at the same time. Angels, Arch Angels, Dominations, Gistii Dominations, and sometimes some Sanshas when you hide in other regions Heh, that one is actually pretty funny Ethereal Imperium [E-IMP] is recruiting! Please visit our webpage for more information.
Burzhuj	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:21:00 - [32] Edited by: Burzhuj on 17/04/2006 13:23:24 I can`t really uderstand this topic. GHOST decide to pull out from Cache. Fine, it their decition, and RA must respect it. BUT... GHOST NAP with our enemy, so RA have no other choise but to reset snanding to neutral or negative (that make no difference in 0.0). Otherwise Ghost get positive standing to everyone. Imagine situation like this: RA and -V-/LV/CHIMP/KOS shooting each other on the gate, and GHOST indy filled with ore just passing by shooting: "Hello to all friends" in the local :-)) Or GHOST NPC-hunter typing in local "Cool, i just looted faction BS BPC :-)), any1 interested in buing it? I'll wait until you stop killing each other :-))". I don`t think that anyone will have respect to alliance like this.. So, it is sad, that GHOST leaving, but this is the life, it how things are in EVE. Looking forward, maybe we will fight on same side again one day.
Burlock Ironfist	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:24:00 - [33] Originally by: Niki Silver Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Anyways. Ghost knew what we was getting into but had confidence in RA was stronger as an alliance then we assumed Mate, that is all I was trying to say. For the sake of the V/LV/CHIMP who continue to mud sling RA with statements about how we 'mislead' you. You said yourself 'Ghost knew what we we was getting into". That you for clearing that up for everyone. Then you go on to say but you had confidence in RA and that we were stronger then you had assumed. I'm sure that as a leader you are well aware that sometimes you have good days and sometimes you have bad days. I personally am dissapointed that Ghost let a few bad days change your attitude towards our entire alliance. We are fighting a multi front war against many enemies at the same time. I am sorry we could not send our entire alliance to M53 to aid to the fleet there on a moments notice. I do not wish to argue this publicly or start a forum flame war about this at all. When we say we understood the situation, we mean we understood the politaical situation of the area. if you read further into his LW post. Originally by: wimbishi I do not pretend to know all that has been going on inside the RA alliance leadership during the entire time we was there but I do know we had MANY problems and constant issues of understanding with RA. We would be told one thing and as we started to approach what was talked about that 'thing' changed and some stuff was added to it to make it different and more favoring towards RA. This kind of stuff was common place during the entire time we was there. access to bases. a few offices, POS set up and complex running are all but an example. Given part of a story and 'rules' and not all till we started to get more involved with the very things listed above, only to have things 'pop' up out of nowhere which wasn't discussed nor brought up volunterially by RA leadership. It doesn't take a lot of to be thoughtful and honestly forthcoming with tid bits of information which would happen to change the agreement process BEFORE it happens. these were the reason we had to leave. Again i say please come to our private forunms and discuss this like it should be. We have never fired apon you, nore done anything but help your allaince in any way we could, which im sure LV / v / chimp / kos will also agree. We only ask for access to the stations to get back our own stuff that we used to help defend your region. I just do not understand how we have backstabbed you. I have not heard of GHOST pilots even returning fire once attacked.
Lord Wimbishi	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:30:00 - [34] Originally by: Niki Silver Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Anyways. Ghost knew what we was getting into but had confidence in RA was stronger as an alliance then we assumed Mate, that is all I was trying to say. For the sake of the V/LV/CHIMP who continue to mud sling RA with statements about how we 'mislead' you. You said yourself 'Ghost knew what we we was getting into". That you for clearing that up for everyone. Then you go on to say but you had confidence in RA and that we were stronger then you had assumed. I'm sure that as a leader you are well aware that sometimes you have good days and sometimes you have bad days. I personally am dissapointed that Ghost let a few bad days change your attitude towards our entire alliance. We are fighting a multi front war against many enemies at the same time. I am sorry we could not send our entire alliance to M53 to aid to the fleet there on a moments notice. Niki go to www.ghostofretribution.com I will show you the truth bud and allow you into the embassy to see for yourself and let you make your own opinion. You seem to be a open and intelligent man, please see the evidence of what really happened and then post again. It wasn't just M53 bud. It was a lot of things and the thing that finally made me throw in the towel is when one of my pilots just happened to 'look' at that complex and get threatened and have close to 20 pilots log in on him at the gate of it.
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:35:00 - [35] Originally by: Niki Silver One system? Mate, C-J may have been the 'one' system in Insmo, sure. But don't use half truth to flame. What about 1V just a few hops away? 28Y / JLO as well. Tell me. If you were in C-J and had a 4 alliance coalition completely staged up 4 jumps away with a daily blob at least twice as large as your own, would you waste resources on it or would you withdraw? Just pointing out that there was no 'siege' or anything. Originally by: Niki Silver Far as the 'no one in cache has been ratting or mining in months' bit... Yes, yes, your fearsome afk recon has brought our entire industrial machine to a grinding halt. Comparing everything in cache now to a month ago, that would probably be a just assumption -------- Shinra Director
Chowdown	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:53:00 - [36] /me ***s knuckles. Time to step it up again. Originally by:** Ginger Magician They always have been lamers and dishonourable pvpers.
Lord Wibblywobbly	Posted - 2006.04.17 16:01:00 - [37] GHOST masterplan v1.0 you put your first ghost in, you pull your first ghost out, in out, in out, shake it all about, you do the hokey cokey and you turn around, thats what its all about !
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.17 16:05:00 - [38] Originally by: Chowdown Time to step it up again. What, more spies?
BRooDJeRo	Posted - 2006.04.17 16:11:00 - [39] Heh, its almost funny to see how small things can live its own life that easialy...
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2006.04.17 16:33:00 - [40] RA cease to amaze me. Giggidy giggidy goo! Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Crellion	Posted - 2006.04.17 17:17:00 - [41] Edited by: Crellion on 17/04/2006 17:18:09 During the time debated I moved up and down the 1v- > N-rael corridor 3-4 times a day and the n-rael > m53 corridor say once a day. I can assure you that Ghosts was the only force giving us fights in the 10 days before their withdrwal in the N-rael > Cache area. RA just auto log when we eneter system even in a pod. Imagine I had empire war with RA and SNU and I got more kills against ghost AFs tanking sentries in Konora because I couldnt find any RA to shoot at. RA only enter 0.0 (in a pvp sense) in moving gangs of 10-20 that run around and never face more than 5. When trapped they log off (and we will play eve again tomorrow). Having the ghosts their to fight was a cool change. -v- alliance chat was fuming when we found out LD had napped them... but we have to accept the honourable solution of allowing these guys who have only fought us honourably to withdraw. @ RA : prove me wrong... give us some fleet fights, stop the loggoffskis and the running away and hiding. Enough with complexing (you started dying in your complexes too anyway from what I hear :D) Be all that you can be for a change and perhaps you will be allowed to keep a small corner of 0.0 Darn you might even be able to EARN it! Are you familiar with the conceipt? Prove me wrong please. For the sake of all involved.
Fargas	Posted - 2006.04.17 17:36:00 - [42] dude, make a note for yourself noone in ra gona entertain you, so cut the whinage klik, .... davno pora
slip66	Posted - 2006.04.17 17:56:00 - [43] This thread rocks :) Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.17 18:18:00 - [44] Originally by: Crellion I couldnt find any RA to shoot at Maybe you should switch sides. You'll immediately have 4x the targets.
Touk	Posted - 2006.04.17 18:46:00 - [45] speaking from a grunts point of view that immsure is shared by all front line fighters in all the 4 alliances.... I hated when we gave GHOST +5 standings......i just couldnt figure it out.....personnaly i would have done it the same way CHIMP dealt with FSA when they came to us asking for positive standings to enable them to retrieve thier stuff from the former RA stations. Told them to sod off....how were we to be sure they wouldnt be hauling RA kit out aswel......wasnt wortht he risk and the couple of days when ghost standings hadnt been updated....its damn hard not to shoot a neutral when he slowelyu flies tot eh gate in a hauler at 100m/s from 15km.
Steno	Posted - 2006.04.17 18:54:00 - [46] Originally by: Touk ....its damn hard not to shoot a neutral when he slowelyu flies tot eh gate in a hauler at 100m/s from 15km. ummm if I see my corp/alliance mates doing that in unsafe areas I may start shooting them
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.17 19:14:00 - [47] Originally by: Niki Silver This is all pretty humorous really. All the anti RA slander. Do our enemies think they will win the war by flaming us on a forum? We mislead ghost? Hrmm. Well, they reformed out of PA and needed a place to set up some industry and get themselves up and running. Believe it or not, RA does enjoy making friends, so we invited them into Cache. This was long before the siege on Insmother. So I don't really see how we 'mislead' them. They were well aware of the hostilities between RA and V/LV/CHIMP. Its worthy of mention that as our allies, they did nothing to aid us in Insmother. There were no Ghost in JLO, no Ghost in 1V-, and no Ghost in C-J. They were up in Cache ratting and mining. So along comes a Saturday morning, immediately after downtime we have a big V/LV/CHIMP blob in M53 shooting the station. People are still crawling out of bed, rubbing thier weary eyes, gettign their coffee, etc. Log into a chaotic Eve where an enemy blob is shooting our station after nullifying SOV by sobotaging POS. Needless to say our collective sleepy heads were a bit disorganized. Now that Cache was under attack, and Ghost directly threatened, do they decide to take action. After several weeks of hanging around in Cache ignoring the goings on in Insmo, SP, WC. I personally appreciate thier aid in the defense of Cache, they really helped us out. Credit given where credit is due. But enough with the you guys mislead Ghost crap. We know we didn't. They know we didn't. V/LV/CHIMP have been the devil whispering in Ghosts ear since the day they came to Cache. And you guys have the ardacity to come here to the forums and accuse us of misleading them. If RA wanted to 'use' Ghost, as you put it. We would not have invited them to Cache. We would have sent them to Insmother or Scalding Pass, to the front line. Much like you have done with other alliances such as Smash and Fallen Souls. Suddenly, after one rough weekend in Cache, Ghost is ready to throw in the towel and change sides. Be weary V/LV/CHIMP. If you have a bad day, they might decide to turn on you as well. And everyone has bad days from time to time. Very well said. That's actually how it all happened.
Niki Silver	Posted - 2006.04.17 19:55:00 - [48] Originally by: Crellion Edited by: Crellion on 17/04/2006 17:18:09 During the time debated I moved up and down the 1v- > N-rael corridor 3-4 times a day and the n-rael > m53 corridor say once a day. I can assure you that Ghosts was the only force giving us fights in the 10 days before their withdrwal in the N-rael > Cache area. RA just auto log when we eneter system even in a pod. Imagine I had empire war with RA and SNU and I got more kills against ghost AFs tanking sentries in Konora because I couldnt find any RA to shoot at. RA only enter 0.0 (in a pvp sense) in moving gangs of 10-20 that run around and never face more than 5. When trapped they log off (and we will play eve again tomorrow). Having the ghosts their to fight was a cool change. -v- alliance chat was fuming when we found out LD had napped them... but we have to accept the honourable solution of allowing these guys who have only fought us honourably to withdraw. @ RA : prove me wrong... give us some fleet fights, stop the loggoffskis and the running away and hiding. Enough with complexing (you started dying in your complexes too anyway from what I hear :D) Be all that you can be for a change and perhaps you will be allowed to keep a small corner of 0.0 Darn you might even be able to EARN it! Are you familiar with the conceipt? Prove me wrong please. For the sake of all involved. I think this is the most hipocritical,***iest, and downright ignorant post I have ever read. Congratulations Crellion, you win a cookie. Ethereal Imperium [E-IMP] is recruiting!** Please visit our webpage for more information.
wild	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:05:00 - [49] Well this is what I find funny is that RA keeps talking about killing KOS and that we should die but KOS is playing the smallist part in the war, so RA you cant KILL LV or -V- so you think if you kill KOS it will help, not KOS can out POS you any time it wants too.
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:08:00 - [50] Originally by: Niki Silver Originally by: Crellion crap crap crap I think this is the most hipocritical,***iest, and downright ignorant post I have ever read. Same old ** this asshat posts in just about every thread even remotely related to RA. He needs some new material tbh. Quite frankly, if all -V- really cared about was "fun fights" they wouldn't be engaged in POS wars and be allied with 3000+ while at war with ~1500 (actually far less than that). The reality of the situation sorta makes their fun fights whine ring a bit hollow
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:11:00 - [51] Originally by: wild Well this is what I find funny is that RA keeps talking about killing KOS and that we should die but KOS is playing the smallist part in the war, so RA you cant KILL LV or -V- so you think if you kill KOS it will help, not KOS can out POS you any time it wants too. Uh, dude, i'm pretty sure that when people use the letters KOS in this thread they mean 'Kill On Sight' not your muppet alliance..
Niki Silver	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:17:00 - [52] Originally by: wild Well this is what I find funny is that RA keeps talking about killing KOS and that we should die but KOS is playing the smallist part in the war, so RA you cant KILL LV or -V- so you think if you kill KOS it will help, not KOS can out POS you any time it wants too. KOS has to actually undock first Ethereal Imperium [E-IMP] is recruiting! Please visit our webpage for more information.
wild	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:27:00 - [53] Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Originally by: wild Well this is what I find funny is that RA keeps talking about killing KOS and that we should die but KOS is playing the smallist part in the war, so RA you cant KILL LV or -V- so you think if you kill KOS it will help, not KOS can out POS you any time it wants too. Uh, dude, i'm pretty sure that when people use the letters KOS in this thread they mean 'Kill On Sight' not your muppet alliance.. well your dumberr then you look fisrt off -v- ask us to come a have fun with RA and do to the fact ra helped SE we said O yes. LV didnt ask kos and LV didnt join in at first. and once's again you make me lol if we are the miners/muppets why run and why are you not go for the muppet master O yea you cant lol
wild	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:28:00 - [54] Originally by: Niki Silver Originally by: wild Well this is what I find funny is that RA keeps talking about killing KOS and that we should die but KOS is playing the smallist part in the war, so RA you cant KILL LV or -V- so you think if you kill KOS it will help, not KOS can out POS you any time it wants too. KOS has to actually undock first lol hmm Im killboard says we do undock and kill ra,
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:34:00 - [55] Originally by: wild Well this is what I find funny is that RA keeps talking about killing KOS and that we should die but KOS is playing the smallist part in the war, so RA you cant KILL LV or -V- so you think if you kill KOS it will help, not KOS can out POS you any time it wants too. Who are you? Why are you posting in this thread? What? An ALLIANCE you are then? Oh... :glasses: P.S. yes RA is talking about killing KOS on a daily basis, we have these TS sessions where we just talk about that non-stop, you're so important that we just can't stop talking and thinking about you.
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:36:00 - [56] Originally by: wild lol hmm Im killboard says we do undock and kill ra RA vs KOS last three months
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:36:00 - [57] Originally by: wild Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Originally by: wild Well this is what I find funny is that RA keeps talking about killing KOS and that we should die but KOS is playing the smallist part in the war, so RA you cant KILL LV or -V- so you think if you kill KOS it will help, not KOS can out POS you any time it wants too. Uh, dude, i'm pretty sure that when people use the letters KOS in this thread they mean 'Kill On Sight' not your muppet alliance.. well your dumberr then you look fisrt off -v- ask us to come a have fun with RA and do to the fact ra helped SE we said O yes. LV didnt ask kos and LV didnt join in at first. and once's again you make me lol if we are the miners/muppets why run and why are you not go for the muppet master O yea you cant lol Oh I've just remembered this very cool episode of South Park. Quote: ... -Are you high or just incredibly stupid? -I assure you - I am not high. ¬
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Originally by: wild lol hmm Im killboard says we do undock and kill ra RA vs KOS last three months The main issue with that is that only a third of your alliance posts its losses. -------- Shinra Director
Niki Silver	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:48:00 - [59] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Originally by: wild lol hmm Im killboard says we do undock and kill ra RA vs KOS last three months The main issue with that is that only a third of your alliance posts its losses. Even if that were true, its still a higher percentage then your coalition. Ethereal Imperium [E-IMP] is recruiting! Please visit our webpage for more information.
BillyBong2	Posted - 2006.04.17 20:55:00 - [60] Originally by: Niki Silver Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Originally by: wild lol hmm Im killboard says we do undock and kill ra RA vs KOS last three months The main issue with that is that only a third of your alliance posts its losses. Even if that were true, its still a higher percentage then your coalition. When I was in NOINT, -V- alliance, the losses and kills against me were posted fairly quickly. Now I am not saying that is the case with everyone, and I was only involved in a few kills/skirmishes because of my timezone. Against me, the losses were posted. _________________________

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