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Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2799	Posted - 2014.02.25 15:13:00 - [1] - Quote Taritura wrote: Another excel expansion weee........ If you're sick of 'excel expansions' maybe you should try another game because I think you can expect many more of them in years to come. Personally, I find changes like this pretty exciting. Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2800	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:33:00 - [2] - Quote stg slate wrote: Worm: I enjoy the new bonuses drone direction, but I'm afraid of what the Gila will look like based on that. No matter what bandwidth you give the Gila I'll fill it full of Warrior 2's and a few drone nav computers and have 300% bonused, very fast Warrior 2's murdering frigates. Current game mechanics with bandwidth won't let you expand out this design to the Gila or Rattlesnake without creating a balance issue at those levels. Why not? Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2800	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:40:00 - [3] - Quote Anya Klibor wrote: (so the Rattlesnake would get to field two Ogres with a 300% increase to damage and hit points). No. I'm guessing the Rattlesnake is only going to get 25m Bandwidth anyway. Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2801	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:08:00 - [4] - Quote Garviel Tarrant wrote: Ok after a bit of thinking, my thoughts The succubus has really dumb bonuses. 7.5% lets it have blaster tracking with glatlings.. so thats not great. The AB bonus lets it.. scram kite i guess? But it doesn't have a range bonus so that won't really work that well. Tracking bonuses are really really weak and should be higher than 7.5% on a frigate to be useful. All in all i think its pretty bad. I'm thinking it might work better with beams. Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2801	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:34:00 - [5] - Quote Hey, people crying about cap. You're the reason we have a crappy Navy Armageddon that no one uses. Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2803	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:40:00 - [6] - Quote Damien White wrote: Can someone explain to me the reason behind a tracking buff for a frigate? 200% AB velocity? Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2804	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:50:00 - [7] - Quote Silivar Karkun wrote: Caldari Frigate Bonus: 7,5% reduction to shield boost capacitor need lolwtf Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2807	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:39:00 - [8] - Quote PinkKnife wrote: JEFFRAIDER wrote: The Cruor is a bit of a mess considering how the web range bonus doesn't synergize wtih the nos amount bonus. How about weakening the web range bonus, keeping the nos strength bonus and adding in a nos range bonus? Whatever the numbers work out to for the Cruor to be able to web with a meta 4 web no bonus no heat to about 18km and the nos going say 22km? Seems like it gives it a nice fun role to be an outside scram range fighter without being super OP. This is why I like the idea of the bonus to Neut drones. It removes the aspect of neut range and allows you to kite out to your hearts content. With 28km web range cold, you can already kite to your heart's content. The bonus to neuting power allows you to cap out a blaster frig pretty much instantly. Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2808	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:28:00 - [9] - Quote Silivar Karkun wrote: it should be enough and it sounds better IMO Sounds better than what? Why are you so determined to change the bonuses? Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2812	Posted - 2014.02.26 06:57:00 - [10] - Quote TrouserDeagle wrote: because if my dps is in 2 drones, what happens if someone webs one and stops it getting within 8km? Brawl and scoop. Oh god.

Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2812	Posted - 2014.02.26 06:59:00 - [11] - Quote Vaju Enki wrote: because it's a 25/50 drone shield tank frigate. It seems like the 25/50 part is the only issue for you and I have no idea why. Silivar Karkun wrote: not gonna keep arguing about the bonuses, but think of it from the victim standpoint, wouldnt those dronesbe too hard (if not impossible) to destroy?, basically you're fighting 1v3, no imagine a small group of 3 worms, those are 16 drones worth of DPS right there.....so its like getting ganked by 9 ships... (3 ships each worm) With the bonuses you want, it would be like getting ganked by 18 ships. The trauma for victims would be unimaginable. Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2812	Posted - 2014.02.26 10:57:00 - [12] - Quote Kagura Nikon wrote: No you CANNOT kite. You can do NOthing at 28 km with it. You need to get clsoer. WHen you get closer , BEFORE you get into your Nos and weaposn range you get into enemy web range. THen suddenly you are goign SLOWER than your enemy (because blood raiders are slwoer than almost anythign else).. so you NEVER get into range to do Anything. The cruor becomes just a funny looking hyena. a WASTE. Because beams don't exist. Actually, both the Sansha and Blood Raider frigs are looking like they are designed to promote more small beam use to me. Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2812	Posted - 2014.02.27 04:10:00 - [13] - Quote Sansha's should get reactive lasers which adjust their damage to their target's weakest resist over time. This would give them a Caldari trait (somewhat selectable damage) and make them very unique and amazing at something. Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2813	Posted - 2014.02.27 04:55:00 - [14] - Quote Sinooko wrote: In solo fights it is almost worthless when engaging frigates specialized in missiles, projectiles, and drones. One could argue that the NOS and Neuts would knock out their MWD and Reppers, but in the fast and vicious combat that is frigate PvP it didn't have the lasting power to wait for the enemy's cap to empty out. How many neuts is that with? Quote: In fleet fights it is a highly expensive ship that has to get really close to use its abilities. I'm not really sure if getting into range to use the neut is the best way to fly it. I'm kinda thinking the idea is to keep people outside of your neut range. Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2814	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:36:00 - [15] - Quote Kagura Nikon wrote: What? so.. your idea of effectiveness is ensurign that you are not helping your fleet at all? I'm talking about solo and bonus webs do help your fleet. Do you think the Cruor needs to use its neuts on every ship it sees to be effective? Oh god.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2814	Posted - 2014.02.27 17:32:00 - [16] - Quote Kagura Nikon wrote: Riot Girl wrote: Kagura Nikon wrote: What? so.. your idea of effectiveness is ensurign that you are not helping your fleet at all? I'm talking about solo and bonus webs do help your fleet. Do you think the Cruor needs to use its neuts on every ship it sees to be effective? To be better than Hyena YES. Otherwise use the hyena that is faster, locks faster, has MORE web range.... and is cheaper! It only has to neut some stuff, not everything. Oh god.