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Intruders
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Posted - 2003.09.17 19:19:00 -
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Quote: Lethargy, just shup up. Don't even try to argue with experienced pirates if you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Hey Molly, i bet an expirienced pirate can do well solo cant he? Care to show your experience to someone, solo of course?
For some reason I believe you wont..so you can probably quess which words might come next from people who might not give so much credit to your so called "experience"..
stfu
Or just take the challenge.
And as for this really annoying Cao Cao.. I will copy all my bookmarks for free from New caldari all the way to Obe and three jumps after it towards Concius Thought stations system, the FDZ4-A. He cant lag you with his drones because after you arrive from warp you end up, behind him, if you dont, this might mean he is not in any right possition to attack you properly. Just show me a screen of him going boom afterwards to compensate me.
A whiner less for EVE.
And if Cao Cao by any chance you decide to quit plz give us all your stuff and the stuff from your TTI alt (or main) too.
Thank you.
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
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Klatuu
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Posted - 2003.09.17 19:23:00 -
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I spend a lot of ******* time in 0.0 you idiot, but none of the carebears go there, so I gotta come to empire space to blow them up. But now I can't do that anymore ..... oh well gonna have to camp jump-in spawn points with thousands of drones.
Well, I remember reading some statement in the unpaid beta that something like 55% of the systems are 0.0 sec.
Well... CCP is really breaking ground in that there is only one persistent world with no shards. Most games put up a pvp shard and non pvp shards because there are many people who really don't like pvp. nonPVP'ers call the PVP crowd 'griefers' and the PVP peeps call the nonPVP crowd 'carebears' ... I don't think this will be balanced to everyone's satisfaction any time soon.
I personally like the idea of empires keeping pirates out, but I think having everything boil down to 1 number (security status) where you're excluded from ALL empire is shortsighted.
I'd rather see CCP do something with the faction ratings and mothball CONCORD altogether. Let the empires police themselves. Furthermore, I would like to see different empire status' change differently according perhaps to *who* you killed. Maybe you kill someone that the Amarr empire really hates, so you get a boost with them... but the Minmatar empire loved them so now you're a criminal in Minmatar space... or perhaps you blow up an Amarr guy... Amarr empire is ****ed, but minmatar like you more now b/c you killed a dirty rotten slaver.
Things would also get a lot more interesting if they separated empire spaces by a 0.0 or two sec system. call it a no-mans-land between empires or whatever. make sure those zones are connected to the rest of 0.0 space. Ditch the superhighways and make the markets actually different from one region to another. Traders would then have to run the gauntlet for the big profits... it'd give pirates a place to ambush traders... convoys would likely form up... etc.
Another thing... I don't think the solution is to make empire space less safe from pirates (ultimately, pirates are a vocal minority... very vocal, but still a minority in this kind of game), but rather to add more incentive OUTSIDE EMPIRE SPACE to get people to travel there. Right now the only real draw to non empire space is bistot. CCP needs to add something more that is worth the risk to venture out. |

Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.17 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Molly on 17/09/2003 19:23:30 "Hey Molly, i bet an expirienced pirate can do well solo cant he? Care to show your experience to someone, solo of course?
For some reason I believe you wont..so you can probably quess which words might come next from people who might not give so much credit to your so called "experience"..
stfu
Or just take the challenge."
Good for you if your **** is longer. I for my part never had to prove anything to anyone.
People who fought with or against me know if I am good or not. That's all I need to say to this.
But go on and keep bragging.
Lol.
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Intruders
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Posted - 2003.09.17 19:28:00 -
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No Molly im not braging, just making you look like a chicken, like I knew you would 
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
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Salgurdar
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Posted - 2003.09.17 19:42:00 -
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I'm yet to encounter a "pirate" that doesn't turn tail adn run to the nearest station, or warp and log, at the slightest wiff of danger. You gate camping mooks constantly call people carebears based on the fact that they don't want to get killed by someone equipped more superiorly is so hypocritical. I mean, it's down to the point where I fly a cruiser in favour of a battlehsip, because the battleship pirates are more likely to actually put up a fight. Even then they still run. Gate camping griefers are gutless wonders, stop crying like little girls that your risk free fun at others exspense get's a little risky. It will probably be rectified in tomorrow's downtime anyway.
Oh, and having lots of rare mods, does NOT qualify you as a skilled combat pirate.
"We all know what we are, we're just haggling about the price" - W.C. Fields Rolschau > anyway... because some jerk today... (it is soon 5 am) will turn on the smoke alarm all over the place and then go inside our room to check.. then I will stay up and not get a shock while sleeping and die.... I will be playing eve untill the jerk shows up
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.17 19:49:00 -
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"I'm yet to encounter a "pirate" that doesn't turn tail adn run to the nearest station, or warp and log, at the slightest wiff of danger."
Undock from the station maybe?
Sorry, but your post is across-the-board.
Blame you for not being able to find a worthy opponent :P.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.09.17 20:06:00 -
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And as for this really annoying Cao Cao.. I will copy all my bookmarks for free from New caldari all the way to Obe and three jumps after it towards Concius Thought stations system, the FDZ4-A.
LOL as if you have all those bookmarks. Because if you did you would know that FDZ4-A is 14 jumps from Obe (approx) not three. LMAO.
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And if Cao Cao by any chance you decide to quit plz give us all your stuff and the stuff from your TTI alt (or main) too.
I dont have a TTi alt. This is my only char.
Man you are one real big grown-up aren't you? Intruders. LOL.
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Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.09.17 20:10:00 -
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Ohnos11! Pirates have to think about where they'll camp! 
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.09.17 20:18:00 -
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To the Carebears, STFU tards go play dark age of camelot.
Sincerly, QBall
PS. EVE is turning into UO Trammel. -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall
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Intruders
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Posted - 2003.09.17 20:19:00 -
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Quote: all the way to Obe and three jumps after it towards Concius Thought
This is what I wrote, perhaps your bad understanding of English?
Call me whatever names you want, I dont mind, I wont be the one who ends up ****ed off, you will.. and surprised. 
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
My sig sux |

Dianabolic
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Posted - 2003.09.17 21:17:00 -
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Quote: People who fought with or against me know if I am good or not. That's all I need to say to this.
I know a few people that would back him up on that, Molly my dear.
Cao Cao - u use the term "***" and "homosexual" as if it is some sort of bad thing, why is that?
Jealous?
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.17 21:21:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: People who fought with or against me know if I am good or not. That's all I need to say to this.
I know a few people that would back him up on that, Molly my dear.
Back him up? Backing what up?
What do you mean with that. Please explain.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.17 21:29:00 -
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So, kill other pirates you... you.... Cao Cao!  
Convert Stations
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Cyrus Troy
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Posted - 2003.09.17 21:46:00 -
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Sentry guns at ALL stargates in empire space.
Chalk another one up to goddamn carebears. Add onto the fact that bookmarks still work with stargates and you have the DEATH KNELL of piracy.
LMAO, pirates are the biggest carebears OF THEM ALL! Can't kill a quota of ships in a day at their campspot and they start flamming a crying on the boards!! AAHH, wook out little Cao Cao, don't let you bottom lip stay out too far, a wittle birdy is going to land on it!! 
Besides, once the Mobile Refineries come out, all the pirate corps are going to have a feeding frenzy taking over all the bistot mining operations in 0.0 space
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Daan
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Posted - 2003.09.17 21:46:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote: People who fought with or against me know if I am good or not. That's all I need to say to this.
I know a few people that would back him up on that, Molly my dear.
Back him up? Backing what up?
What do you mean with that. Please explain.
man+man
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2003.09.17 22:28:00 -
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Quote: Man you are one real big grown-up aren't you? Intruders. LOL. ******* homosexual piece of ****.
Of course using bad language and attacking someone's sexuality really lends credibility to your arguements doesn't it?
For goodness (or badness) sake if you've got a point to make then don't devalue it by making yourself look like an arse, no matter how frustrated you are with the current changes!
Eve Blacklight Style
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Captain Carebear
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Posted - 2003.09.17 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Carebear on 17/09/2003 22:29:39
DANCING FOR JOY!!!!!!!!
Let peace and joy reign throughout the land! Dance with me in celebration of a CAREBEAR VICTORY!!!!
The evil rotten griefing podkilling pirates like Paladins and Evolution are foiled again!
It is a time to celebrate PEACE! If you want to be a carebear go play Camelot? How about if you want to be a griefing PK psycho go play counterstrike???? 
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.17 22:33:00 -
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Quote: Man you are one real big grown-up aren't you? Intruders. LOL. ******* homosexual piece of ****.
Of course using bad language and attacking someone's sexuality really lends credibility to your arguements doesn't it?
For goodness (or badness) sake if you've got a point to make then don't devalue it by making yourself look like an arse, no matter how frustrated you are with the current changes!
You've never crossed Intruders. He's a griefer that takes his pleasure by further aggravting already frustrated people.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Intruders
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Posted - 2003.09.17 22:49:00 -
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Every man lives..but not every man dies!
My sig sux |

Intruders
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Posted - 2003.09.17 22:49:00 -
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Quote: Jash Illian
You've never crossed Intruders. He's a griefer that takes his pleasure by further aggravting already frustrated people.
Do you have any proof I do this aggggravffting (whatever) Mr. Jash Illian? I could let the people I helped in this game fill at least two threads by posting here, you're full of it. Sorry I ****ed your lil carebear pirates off, and sorry I never buy your chatter on the forums cause I know you re a paid mouth, off you go to mine with them now..
btw: you are a scared little man, when I asked your email address to give you some interesting screens, you ****ted your pants, thinking it was some virus didnt you? Im really sorry for you man, I mean, seeing enemies everywhere..
And the above is the only recolection you ever had of me crossing paths together.
Am I lieing Jash Illian?
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
My sig sux |

Probe
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Posted - 2003.09.17 22:55:00 -
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Oooook... i'm not paying cash to play a game where ppl like Cao Cao are fond of using that kind of language.
And most of all i don't like the idea of my grandsons be exposed that that kind of language when to sneak up near to me when i'm reading the forums.
I'm here to have fun, not to assist tantrums from spoiled brats, specially when i already have two young hurricanes wrecking havok around the house, i don't need to deal with other's brats.
MODs, i think its time to revoke Cao Cao's posting rights for one week, because he needs to cool off before he gets into more trouble.
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: Slithereen on 18/09/2003 01:32:36
"I'd rather see CCP do something with the faction ratings and mothball CONCORD altogether. Let the empires police themselves.
Furthermore, I would like to see different empire status' change differently according perhaps to *who* you killed. Maybe you kill someone that the Amarr empire really hates, so you get a boost with them... but the Minmatar empire loved them so now you're a criminal in Minmatar space... or perhaps you blow up an Amarr guy... Amarr empire is ****ed, but minmatar like you more now b/c you killed a dirty rotten slaver."
You're pretty much describing the system used in the game Freelancer, although in FL, there are so many factions, and managing the reputation system takes some skill. For example, you want to get neutral with some pirates and get to land in their base (so you can buy a Corsair Titan for example), you have to go kill their enemies, and at the same time, avoid killing Corsairs and their allies, even if they attack you. Then your reputation bar changes until you land on their planet. You have to keep working at it before your reputation is good enough to allow you getting missions in the pirate station. You can also bribe hackers to change your reputation.
If CCCP should study how a good reputation system should work, they should check out Freelancer. It's a much more limited game than EVE for sure, but that sophisticated reputation management system is something its got light years over EVE.
_______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:50:00 -
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Heh Molly was out solo pirating battleships in a blackbird when you were still trying to pilot an impairor Intruders. Don't be ridiculous.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 18/09/2003 01:52:07
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Quote: Jash Illian
You've never crossed Intruders. He's a griefer that takes his pleasure by further aggravting already frustrated people.
Do you have any proof I do this aggggravffting (whatever) Mr. Jash Illian? I could let the people I helped in this game fill at least two threads by posting here, you're full of it. Sorry I ****ed your lil carebear pirates off, and sorry I never buy your chatter on the forums cause I know you re a paid mouth, off you go to mine with them now..
btw: you are a scared little man, when I asked your email address to give you some interesting screens, you ****ted your pants, thinking it was some virus didnt you? Im really sorry for you man, I mean, seeing enemies everywhere..
And the above is the only recolection you ever had of me crossing paths together.
Am I lieing Jash Illian?
Yes, you're lying. Because
I got your email because you got my email address from me.
Odd thing, if I were scared of you sending me a virus why would I give you my email addy? And unlike you, I didn't use an anonymous Yahoo email address 
I had completely forgotten about that email. Still got it in my mailbox too. You musta terrified me into amnesia.
Putz
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:57:00 -
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Quote: its time to revoke Cao Cao's posting rights for one week, because he needs to cool off
98% of Cao Cao's posts are pointless one-line flames. Which is why I'm totally ignoring this thread.
Anything Cao Cao thinks is a bad change is probably good for EVE as a whole.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:04:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: its time to revoke Cao Cao's posting rights for one week, because he needs to cool off
98% of Cao Cao's posts are pointless one-line flames. Which is why I'm totally ignoring this thread.
Anything Cao Cao thinks is a bad change is probably good for EVE as a whole.
Cao is a bit emotional at the moment....likely he hasn't read the CSM log yet. That'll set him off pretty good.
But just because a person goes over the top doesn't necessary negate what they say. After all, same could be said about you as well Veruna 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Baff's Ugly
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:20:00 -
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er.. how about this? pirates were causing repeated problems at jump gates. the police, realising their tactic, took steps to rectify the problem. should pirates continually cause problems at jump in points, it is likely that the police will spot this tactic too and raise the security there also.
the pirates were preying at certain jump points, because of the predictability of good hunting.
predictability works both ways. if it can be predicted where pirates will be, then thats where the cops will turn up.
question. are these sentry turrets indestructable? can pirates perhaps blow them up and reclaim their territory from the forces of law and order? (sorry i'm a noob)
presumably pirates can develop new tactics to continue their dastardly ways, in the same way as traders were forced to in order to run blockades.
i find this an intresting element to the game, and am enjoying that it is not a static universe. i am glad that the game progresses responds and adapts. i think it adds depth to the game enviroment.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:25:00 -
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Turrets respawn very fast, so no, it's not an option to take em out and then camp the gate.
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Athren Soulsteal
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:43:00 -
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Edited by: Athren Soulsteal on 18/09/2003 02:44:04
 Quote: Sentry guns at ALL stargates in empire space
Whats your point?
We told you it was always intended to be this way from day one. Months ago we told all the Players that this was going to be implimented, all be it slowly.
People if we tell you "Look a train is coming" and point to it, you have no one to blame but yourself if you continue to stand on the tracks and ignore it.
I told Jash the other day "every thing I have said has come to pass, this is because they are not opinions but simple facts"
This is not the end as CCP moves the game along closer to corp (sanctioned) PVP and away from indiscrimate killing. Those players that understand what EVE is and that fighting is just one miner aspect of the game and the "real" player pirates are not affected by this because we knew it was going to happen and prepared for it.
If you don't want to accept it then just continue to stand on the train tracks a whistle in the dark. Maybe if you tell yourselves enough times that EVE should be a gankers game you may take your mind off that sound... Just keep telling yourself "It's only the wind,... It's only the wind,... Yes it may sound like a speeding freight train charging at you and blowing it's whistle but dont worry, it's only the wind..." 
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.09.18 03:19:00 -
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Quote: What kind of weenie has a battleship, likes PvP and then camps in empire space? If you're such a bigshot badass why don't you head out (or back) to 0.0 and camp a gate there? Or are you just wanting to be the biggest, baddest of the carebears?
Whining from pirates. Irony really is dead....
I spend a lot of ******* time in 0.0 you idiot, but none of the carebears go there, so I gotta come to empire space to blow them up. But now I can't do that anymore ..... oh well gonna have to camp jump-in spawn points with thousands of drones.
I think the overall improvement is significant, as it does give a more staggered change in security. In carebear space (which I think of as 0.5 and above) killing someone you're not at war with will get you a big sec hit and Concorde blasting you to pieces. in 0.1 to 0.4 you have to work a bit for your prey. You now can't camp gates, and will take a sec hit for PK activities but you can still do it in roid belts and stations, although you will have to move around more often rather than sitting in one place like a morbidly obese shut-in.
Which to my mind is fine since camping has been a lame tactic since Quake 1, and the mechanics of lag and warp-in distances in EVE make it ever lamer. As for 0.0, go nuts. Camp gates, do whatever. Like I say, it's a staggered decrease in level of security.
As for previous posts about how slow and boring it is to camp a 0.0 gate, I can accept that. Since the game is generally boring however, I can't see why anyone should sympathize.
Incidently, I apologize for my abusive language in my original post. You're prolly proud of yours so I won't comment beyond that.
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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