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Borealis Aquila School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.02.26 06:11:00 - [1] - Quote ...take an immediate one year subscription for atleast one account and take second account offer for 90 days! Come on people! What would you do if CCP would get into SteamOS or linux?
Borealis Aquila School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.02.26 10:14:00 - [2] - Quote Linux players don't even want to have a native client
Elmore Jones Nebula II 38	Posted - 2014.02.26 13:54:00 - [3] - Quote Ah the bi-monthly 'make a linux native' thread. Hullo :) Basically there was a cedega (commercial wine fork) version. It died a death some time ago. CCP already makes a decent effort to fix bugs under wine and the time required to redo the game as opengl/whatever for sound, redoing the system calls, installer and so forth is not gonna be financially worth their time. Nice idea but not gonna happen I think. +++ Reality Error 404 - Reboot Cosmos +++
Neuntausend GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 62	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:18:00 - [4] - Quote I'd pay the normal rate for a Linux version and keep my accounts running as per normal. I might even be persuaded to grab a box version from the store, but that's about it. Don't make it so Developers and Publishers start to think they can milk Linux users more than others.
Borealis Aquila School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:30:00 - [5] - Quote Well, atleast Valve knows how to cash my money. S!
Zwo Zateki Russian Allied Incursions 106	Posted - 2014.03.10 13:45:00 - [6] - Quote Grab a third and fourth account as native performance will be enough for them (hopefully) -Ü-¦-+-¦-+ RAISA Shield: -¦-é-+-Ç-¦-¦-+-+-Å Sansha -¦-+-Å -¦-ü-¦-à -+ -¦-¦-¦-¦-+-¦-+!
Sister Hyde Kaleidoscopes for the Blind 1	Posted - 2014.04.11 19:23:00 - [7] - Quote Borealis Aquila wrote: Linux players don't even want to have a native client There first needs to be something wrong with EvE in wine. What would I want a native client for? Granted, you have to tweak some settings and install some libraries. Playonlinux does that for you. And I don't get to see the captain's quarters. boohoo. The other day a patch messed up graphic performance only for us Linux users. CCP fixed it in an update two days later. As long as they spread some penguin love when we need it, I'm fine with wine.
eXeler0n turaagaq 432	Posted - 2014.04.11 21:51:00 - [8] - Quote Sister Hyde wrote: Granted, you have to tweak some settings and install some libraries. Playonlinux does that for you. And I don't get to see the captain's quarters. boohoo. There is no need to tweak something anymore. Just run the installer on a clean wine and then run the game. Only tweak is to deactivate CQ. eXeler0n ============================ Quafe:-á http://quafe.de Blogpack:-á http://eveblogs.de
Neuntausend GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 73	Posted - 2014.04.11 23:20:00 - [9] - Quote There's still a performance loss, compared to the Windows version and ervery now and then a patch comes along that breaks something. So it's not like a native version wouldn't be nice. I, as a Linux user would welcome a native version. I am not however willing to pay extra, extend my sybscription or perform a thank you dance. Well, maybe the dance - since a truely native Eve client will never happen, I can safely promise that one.
Webvan State Protectorate Caldari State 779	Posted - 2014.04.12 02:11:00 - [10] - Quote A full client? Probably not needed due to wine. However, would like to see a minimalistic client, one for log-in, skill que, market, and chat channels. Run under native linux and android(mobile linux).

Sister Hyde Kaleidoscopes for the Blind 1	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:18:00 - [11] - Quote eXeler0n wrote: Sister Hyde wrote: Granted, you have to tweak some settings and install some libraries. Playonlinux does that for you. And I don't get to see the captain's quarters. boohoo. There is no need to tweak something anymore. Just run the installer on a clean wine and then run the game. Only tweak is to deactivate CQ. They told me 'it gets better'. They told the truth.
darmwand Repo. 188	Posted - 2014.04.15 16:19:00 - [12] - Quote Don't worry, some other spaceship game is coming to Linux. "Imagine it is war and everybody cloaks." -- Bienator II
Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 603	Posted - 2014.04.15 19:34:00 - [13] - Quote darmwand wrote: Don't worry, some other spaceship game is coming to Linux. **** Star Citizen. They could have actually gone to space with all the money they've wasted. Besides, eve runs fine with wine.
darmwand Repo. 188	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:06:00 - [14] - Quote Kismeteer wrote: Besides, eve runs fine with wine. So far I haven't had much success, especially using multiple screens. Maybe I should try again one of these days... "Imagine it is war and everybody cloaks." -- Bienator II
Boyamin Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2014.04.17 18:14:00 - [15] - Quote eve doesn't really work out-of-the-box with steamOS due to ~64-bit~ issues and pulseaudio, it works pretty well otherwise in wine. bit of a missed opportunity really, I can't think of a single upcoming space MMO game that isn't natively supported on linux.
darmwand Repo. 188	Posted - 2014.04.21 23:54:00 - [16] - Quote Boyamin wrote: it works pretty well otherwise in wine Well I tried again and couldn't get it to run (on a 64bit system). A shame really since EVE is literally the only reason why I still need to boot Windows. Now if there were a similar game that didn't make me reboot I might finally have a reason to stop playing EVE. Luckily there's no competition yet, I suppose... "Imagine it is war and everybody cloaks." -- Bienator II
Boyamin Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2014.04.22 05:47:00 - [17] - Quote darmwand wrote: Boyamin wrote: it works pretty well otherwise in wine Well I tried again and couldn't get it to run (on a 64bit system). A shame really since EVE is literally the only reason why I still need to boot Windows. There isn't really a _stable_ 64 bit wine branch that you can use on a 64 bit system, it's still possible with a chroot if you like shell acrobatics, but if eve is the only reason you're rebooting, I would simply re-install with a 32-bit linux distro.
Doc McCoy Caldari Provisions Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:29:00 - [18] - Quote If you are running a 64 bit version of linux you can run Eve pretty easily provided you use a newer version of wine. True you aren't running wine in 64bit mode, but any Linux distro worth using has either a 1.6.x or 1.7.x 32bit version of wine all packaged up for you. Head on over to winehq, and follow the howtos.
Torgeir Hekard I MYSELF AND ME 27	Posted - 2014.04.23 04:48:00 - [19] - Quote Boyamin wrote: There isn't really a _stable_ 64 bit wine branch that you can use on a 64 bit system, it's still possible with a chroot if you like shell acrobatics, but if eve is the only reason you're rebooting, I would simply re-install with a 32-bit linux distro. Ehmmm. I'm using x64 distros for several years already, and never had a problem with wine compatibility. You just have to install required x86 libs for your system. That being said, there is a need for chrooting if you want to build wine yourself (at least in *buntu distros).
SCV'Argos TheMurk 3	Posted - 2014.05.13 06:07:00 - [20] - Quote Captain's Quarters work under wine, actually. With low graphics settings, with lags and serious graphical glitches - but at least you can get there. It wasn't possible about a year ago, so there's some progress.

Karak Terrel Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE. 624	Posted - 2014.05.13 19:19:00 - [21] - Quote I never even played EVE on Windows and I play this game for 6.5 years now (My last windows was Win 98se). I think there where a few occasions where you had to tweak something to get it running again. Usually someone had the solution on how to get it going again in a matter of minutes in this forums. And IIRC there where two times where it actually broke but CCP fixed it within days (t2 crash, flickering). Other than that it just works and the overhead wine has is probably compensated by the overhead Linux with a reasonable window manager doesn't have. So how could they justify to rewrite the whole engine when the much more reasonable approved is to simply ship EVE with a custom wine in Steam OS. It would not be the first game.
Karak Terrel Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 634	Posted - 2014.05.13 19:19:51 - [22] - Quote I never even played EVE on Windows and I play this game for 6.5 years now (My last windows was Win 98se). I think there where a few occasions where you had to tweak something to get it running again. Usually someone had the solution on how to get it going again in a matter of minutes in this forums. And IIRC there where two times where it actually broke but CCP fixed it within days (t2 crash, flickering). Other than that it just works and the overhead wine has is probably compensated by the overhead Linux with a reasonable window manager doesn't have. So how could they justify to rewrite the whole engine when the much more reasonable approved is to simply ship EVE with a custom wine in Steam OS. It would not be the first game.
Rammix Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 278	Posted - 2014.05.14 04:12:00 - [23] - Quote Karak Terrel wrote: So how could they justify to rewrite the whole engine when the much more reasonable approved is to simply ship EVE with a custom wine in Steam OS. It would not be the first game. Today they sure can ignore linux. But they should think about the future. As was mentioned ITT, popularity of linux is growing and at some point in the future ccp will have to do something about it. If they delay it for too long they risk dropping out of the market some day or at least start losing the growing part of their subscribers (especially if they make dx11 mandatory without wine supporting it, etc, etc). The future is with *nix-es. OpenSUSE 13.1, wine 1.7.11 Covert cyno in highsec: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=296129&find=unread
Rammix TheMurk 315	Posted - 2014.05.14 04:12:41 - [24] - Quote Karak Terrel wrote: So how could they justify to rewrite the whole engine when the much more reasonable approved is to simply ship EVE with a custom wine in Steam OS. It would not be the first game. Today they sure can ignore linux. But they should think about the future. As was mentioned ITT, popularity of linux is growing and at some point in the future ccp will have to do something about it. If they delay it for too long they risk dropping out of the market some day or at least start losing the growing part of their subscribers (especially if they make dx11 mandatory without wine supporting it, etc, etc). The future is with *nix-es. OpenSUSE 13.1, wine 1.7.29 Covert cyno in highsec: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=296129&find=unread
Marsan 224	Posted - 2014.05.15 21:59:00 - [25] - Quote Karak Terrel wrote: I never even played EVE on Windows and I play this game for 6.5 years now (My last windows was Win 98se). I think there where a few occasions where you had to tweak something to get it running again. Usually someone had the solution on how to get it going again in a matter of minutes in this forums. And IIRC there where two times where it actually broke but CCP fixed it within days (t2 crash, flickering). Other than that it just works and the overhead wine has is probably compensated by the overhead Linux with a reasonable window manager doesn't have. So how could they justify to rewrite the whole engine when the much more reasonable approved is to simply ship EVE with a custom wine in Steam OS. It would not be the first game. They tried that long ago. It was far worse than the current game is under wine... Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
Marsan 249	Posted - 2014.05.15 21:59:03 - [26] - Quote Karak Terrel wrote: I never even played EVE on Windows and I play this game for 6.5 years now (My last windows was Win 98se). I think there where a few occasions where you had to tweak something to get it running again. Usually someone had the solution on how to get it going again in a matter of minutes in this forums. And IIRC there where two times where it actually broke but CCP fixed it within days (t2 crash, flickering). Other than that it just works and the overhead wine has is probably compensated by the overhead Linux with a reasonable window manager doesn't have. So how could they justify to rewrite the whole engine when the much more reasonable approved is to simply ship EVE with a custom wine in Steam OS. It would not be the first game. They tried that long ago. It was far worse than the current game is under wine... Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
Neuntausendeins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 17	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:28:00 - [27] - Quote Marsan wrote: They tried that long ago. It was far worse than the current game is under wine... That was however because they didn't ship it with a current wine, but with Transgaming Cedega. Game developers usually tend to use Cedega or Cider for that kind of thing, because as a business, Transgaming offers professional support, even though their fork is generally worse than wine. Shipping a commercial game with wine is complicated, as wines strength is, that it's growing and developing all the time, just like the games themselves. But that also means that things may break any time. The Gamecompany would have to keep it rolling contribute to wine in addition to just developing their game, because by officially releasing a wine bundle they commit to keep things working.
Neuntausendeins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 22	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:28:43 - [28] - Quote Marsan wrote: They tried that long ago. It was far worse than the current game is under wine... That was however because they didn't ship it with a current wine, but with Transgaming Cedega. Game developers usually tend to use Cedega or Cider for that kind of thing, because as a business, Transgaming offers professional support, even though their fork is generally worse than wine. Shipping a commercial game with wine is complicated, as wines strength is, that it's growing and developing all the time, just like the games themselves. But that also means that things may break any time. The Gamecompany would have to keep it rolling contribute to wine in addition to just developing their game, because by officially releasing a wine bundle they commit to keep things working.
Swiftstrike1 Swiftstrike Incorporated 663	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:15:00 - [29] - Quote I would love to play EVE on Steam OS. My favourite game on a pure gaming machine running purpose built gaming OS... what could be better? Fleet Bookmarks New Gravimetric Sites Med Clones 2.0
Swiftstrike1 Swiftstrike Incorporated 838	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:15:37 - [30] - Quote I would love to play EVE on Steam OS. My favourite game on a pure gaming machine running purpose built gaming OS... what could be better? Targeting, Sensors and ECM Overhaul



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