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Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:22:00 -
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Janine Ibanez wrote:Since you're messing around with ways to display player names, I would like to suggest the following:
Allow for sorting of Local in a tree view filtered by standings. In scenarios where there are hundreds of pilots in system, it's difficult, if not impossible, to get an accurate estimate of the number of friendly/hostile pilots in system without guestimating based on fleet numbers (imprecise since it may include pilots out of the system) or manually scrolling the entire list to count blues, reds, and neutrals.
It's also silly that when jumping into a crowded highsec system, I need to spend several seconds scrolling through the local list trying to see if there are any war targets in system.
I propose a collapsible tree structure that, at the top level, shows you the number of each standings type, with a control to allow for expansion of the node to view individual pilot names. For example:
[+] Alliance (12,252) [+] Blue (54,999) [+] Red (130) [+] War Targets (3) [-] Corp (5) |----Pilot A |----Pilot B |----Pilot C |----Pilot D |----Pilot E
The client already has all of this information, since it is used to assign color tags, and this seems like a relatively straightforward quality of life UI improvement that would be useful to most, if not all, players. You could also make its use optional if someone preferred to have the entire list broken out for some reason.
I likes this idea (Fixed some numbers for you) *signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |
Mograine Gastoves
DEFCON. The Initiative.
3
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:26:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:The Directional Scanner has now 2 input fields (km and AU) and a slider for range input. The 3 inputs are connected so when one is changed, the other ones update. The angle slider in the D-scanner as been changed so it's non-linear and has even steps to make it easier to select the lower angles
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Amarisen Gream
Galactic Skyfleet Research Group Galactic Skyfleet Empire
14
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:37:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:Where are the S&I updates? Or will we not see them in 1.3 Do tell, b/c knowing the current goal would help my anxiety levels decrease a little.
p.s. Even if you goal is 1.3 and you tell me it is, I will not get mad if it doesn't make it b/c of some issues. Just would love a heads up on what to expect.
xoxo Sorry, but no, there won't be any Science and Industry changes in 1.3, but that does not mean that we have forgotten about you, so please be patient
Thanks for the information... I'll relax now and accept the rebalances for some ships, and the UI stuff. . . and keep clicking 10 dozen times do my ML/PL/PI
:D
xoxo. xoxo Amarisen Gream
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PinkKnife
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
465
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:07:00 -
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I believe this is the timer post that people are asking about:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=305675
Basically hidden timers are bad. But while I have your attention, would UI stuff include adding ammo counters to the siege module? Or is that a different team? |
Micky Nox
Angry Mustellid
6
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:32:00 -
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Can you please add coloring to labels (or any other way of marking people - stars, icons, colors) thus people can mark different groups of people and see those marks in chat channels?
Using only red, orange and white is not enough when you have many different groups that you want to distinguish without opening info on every person in local.
There is already blocked/online marker in chat channels, maybe you can use this space for labels?
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Tuxedo Catfish
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
68
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:51:00 -
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Please restore the reticule around your ship when you have the camera focused on another object to its old pre-Odyssey behavior, or better yet, make it available as a toggle. |
Sarhyl Connaly
Politas Ateles Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:11:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:we had started to play with that, but then took a step back and decided not to feature creep too much, since that increased the complexity of the change quite a bit.
I am not surprised it would have a complex implementation cost, but am glad you have considered it. Hopefully we'll see it sometime in the future, perhaps as part of a Bigger Things(tm) list? If you had to give us one, I'm glad it's the angle/range improvements first though... |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
488
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:04:00 -
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the scanning changes..
thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!
*fangirl squeeeee*
will make it so much easier to dscan people down. |
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
165
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:14:00 -
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This all sounds good, but here's a question for you Devs.
Does this mean that FINALLY the Guest List (and other areas) will Properly work for trading ? The number of times I need to undock and redock to initiate a trade with my alts at the same station.. And this has been an ongoing issue since I first started playing Eve Online.. It's REALLY Annoying. |
Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
353
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:40:00 -
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The Little Things continue to be the best and most important part of each update.
You may continue your awesomeness....
*bows down*
I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
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Blake Gates Heleneto
Stay Frosty.
71
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:46:00 -
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Adding a label to someone WHILE I'm creating the contact??!
YES. FINALLY. |
M1k3y Koontz
Thorn Project Surely You're Joking
548
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Posted - 2014.02.28 00:20:00 -
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AU on dscan and compactable station guests, take my like and keep up the great changes! How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
Wiu Ming
Collapsed Out Shadow Cartel
62
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:45:00 -
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2524
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Posted - 2014.02.28 01:52:00 -
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This is fantastic, ladies. But I'll be honest: The AU slider needs more granularity. Making such huge jumps in AU simply leaves me still looking at my cheat sheet. It's a great first iteration on what is going to be a more powerful and user-friendly d-scan, but a slider incremented in single AU would be handier.
Also:
The field for 'AU' is a text entry field. I don't know if this is intended, or not. If it is, you should be aware that entering any double digit integer (10 and up) renders unexpected and unusable results. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
691
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:25:00 -
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Orbital bodies in the Show Info window will now have a more functional right click menu, as will many other items in the Info windows
When I checked this the changes where not clear to me. Could you please list the changes a little clearer.
Double" view in planet mode lines where found." This was bug reported. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe. |
Nox52
Lycosa Syndicate Surely You're Joking
1
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:10:00 -
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I would like to add my voice to those calling for a collapsible system. I do not need to see 25 different entries for cruise missile batteries over two pages. They are all the same. One entry with a number (something like 25x cruise missile battery) would be a really good step forward.
Ideally you could collapse and expand at will based on filters. I realise that would be harder to implement. A small step forward in collapsing and giving a count for identical information would be best for now.
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Lipbite
Express Hauler
1781
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Posted - 2014.02.28 05:36:00 -
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Colored highlights for different types of alerts in fleet history window, please. Think about logis for at least 5 minutes during this year. |
Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
155
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Posted - 2014.02.28 12:09:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Sarhyl Connaly wrote:Many thanks for the D-scan refinements, any chance of allowing us to select a specific overview setting to use, rather than our active one? we had started to play with that, but then took a step back and decided not to feature creep too much, since that increased the complexity of the change quite a bit.
Will the new dscan window have a equal fixed spacing between scan angle selections like original incarnation ? current proportional spacing makes 15 degs so fiddly to select.
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Edward Olmops
Sirius Fleet
140
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Posted - 2014.02.28 13:22:00 -
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The D-Scan changes are certainly cool. But in terms of usability... would it be possible to make the buttons on the range/angle rulers a bit bigger? I always have trouble grabbing them quick enough. (they are about the same size as the overheat rack buttons and everyone agreed those are too small) |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
3205
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Posted - 2014.02.28 13:56:00 -
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Dav Varan wrote:Will the new dscan window have a equal fixed spacing between scan angle selections like original incarnation ? current proportional spacing makes 15 degs so fiddly to select.
yes, they are now in even increments
Edward Olmops wrote:The D-Scan changes are certainly cool. But in terms of usability... would it be possible to make the buttons on the range/angle rulers a bit bigger? I always have trouble grabbing them quick enough. (they are about the same size as the overheat rack buttons and everyone agreed those are too small) To be honest, we don't really have the space for it. However, when you click on the slider, the handle will move there... or to the closest option (you see where it will land when you mouse over it because the tick lights up a little bit) CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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Edward Olmops
Sirius Fleet
140
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:06:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Edward Olmops wrote:The D-Scan changes are certainly cool. But in terms of usability... would it be possible to make the buttons on the range/angle rulers a bit bigger? I always have trouble grabbing them quick enough. (they are about the same size as the overheat rack buttons and everyone agreed those are too small) To be honest, we don't really have the space for it. However, when you click on the slider, the handle will move there... or to the closest option (you see where it will land when you mouse over it because the tick lights up a little bit)
Ok... that in combination with the even increments sounds like a good solution. |
Chris Roberts
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
13
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:56:00 -
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All seesms good. One little bit of negative feedback though. On the new fitting info window the calibration bar is white text on a white back ground and is very hard to see. Could we get the text changed to a different colour? |
Jinn Aideron
17
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Posted - 2014.02.28 15:53:00 -
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Finally had time to go over all the shiny new DScan goodness en detail. Thanks to CCP Merc and CCP karkur I'm one happy scanning capsuleer now.
Praise:- slider markers light-up on hover, smart!
- handle isn't fully opaque, good change!
- different sized markers for boundaries and interim steps, visually appealing twist
- reshuffled elements so slider views stack aligned - the above.
- former tooltip degrees readout moved into permanently visible label, practical.
- opting for 1 decimal in AU field, not 2, seems to be accuracy/usability sweetspot, yay!
- G¥ñ Mousewheel + AU input field is all I ever hoped for! Fine-grained and quick control of range! G¥ñ You rock. G¥ñ
--- The following is in direct response to OP feedback request. I'm indifferent to all the observations below, but see this list as a sign of appreciation, honoring aforementioned request, for the responsible parties to think on or discard at will.
- Slider handle's mouse-sensitive area extends beyond visuals-enclosing rectangle; specifically a large amount to the left. One consequence is obstructing selection of 0.0 AU on the slider when currently at 1.0 AU.
- Slider handle image isn't centered over slider markers. (Nobody cares that it isn't! :) But might be in cahoots with above item. So, there.)
- Scan button not trailing, but right-aligned.
- Angle slider change triggers auto-execute scan, range slider does not.
- Max selectable range in slider/and AU field effectively smaller than max selectable range via text input in km.
And this last item, which is at least somewhat interesting: There are some funny turnouts when entering numbers directly into the AU field.
- entered (shown) > converted-to km value
- ,1 (0,1) > 14.595.787
- ,149 (0,1) > 14.959.787
- ,15 (0,2) > 14.959.787
- ,151(0,2) > 29.919.574
- ,155(0,2) > 29.919.574
- ,2 (0,2) > 29.919.574
So, while the texfield will allow you to enter up to 5(?) chars, and retains your original input for more than 1 decimal, rounding applies before conversion into km. (Which isn't immediately obvious bc of the retention of original input.) But with input of ,15 the formatting field rounds up and displays 0,2, while the km value still derives from 0,1*(1AU). (Another weird example, 1,45 vs 1,46.) Then there is also the immediate-update parser not including last entered char, but everything up till last entered instead.
Maybe three views for the same modeled value carries too many constraints? (0.0 in slider, conversion, rounding.) I wouldn't know... that's really your area. :) ---
Now, I feel perfectly terrible for listing these because I dearly, dearly love everything the new DScan panel is. I want to make a stuffed animal from it and take it everywhere I go!
From where I stand, the DScan as is on Sisi at time of writing/testing can remain untouched and would deliver a VAST improvement over TQ DScan in every relevant way. Thank you again, for having spent time on this change! Related forum post - DScan change on Sisi as of Feb 26! Participate in testing, and don't you dare be demanding or not constructive in your feedback! :P G¥ñ "Little Things"-á G¥ñ CCP karkur G¥ñ |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
3206
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Posted - 2014.02.28 16:07:00 -
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Jinn Aideron wrote:Now, I feel perfectly terrible for listing these because I dearly, dearly love everything the new DScan panel is. I want to make a stuffed animal from it and take it everywhere I go! From where I stand, the DScan as is on Sisi at time of writing/testing can remain untouched and would deliver a VAST improvement over TQ DScan in every relevant way. Thank you again, for having spent time on this change! Thank you for the kind words Please don't feel terrible! These are great points, and I will go over them and make sure things are the way we want them to be
In the original post I mentioned that the "Entering numbers in the AU field in D-scan is a bit broken", so I believe that's the issue in your last point. I have already fixed it(this is fallout from some last minute change I made before checking it in), but i'm not sure when Sisi will be updated with the fix. If it's still the case when using the mousewheel to select those AU numbers, then we have another issue The max value of the KM field is set to be 14.3 AU, so I would find it strange if it was higher than the slider or the AU field, but i'll make sure I set it correctly
CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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Jinn Aideron
17
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Posted - 2014.02.28 16:16:00 -
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hydraSlav wrote:On the new DScan, when you set input to the AU field, you can use the scroll wheel to adjust it, however it goes in 0.1 intervals.... so this can take a while. Vary your speed! Slow mousewheel change vs fast one.
Domanique Altares wrote:The field for 'AU' is a text entry field. I don't know if this is intended, or not. If it is, you should be aware that entering any double digit integer (10 and up) renders unexpected and unusable results. It's intended. And in combination with the mousewheel up/down very powerful. Keep in mind that speed of the mousewheel 'flip' affects how quickly the value steps up or down! So one has even more control, and can adjust slowly to be exact, or all-out spin the wheel for go quickly up or down.
Related forum post - DScan change on Sisi as of Feb 26! Participate in testing, and don't you dare be demanding or not constructive in your feedback! :P G¥ñ "Little Things"-á G¥ñ CCP karkur G¥ñ |
Jinn Aideron
17
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Posted - 2014.02.28 16:23:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Please don't feel terrible! ... Thanks for easing my conscience. You guys are the best!
CCP karkur wrote:The max value of the KM field is set to be 14.3 AU, so I would find it strange if it was higher than the slider or the AU field, but i'll make sure I set it correctly I believe it could be because Quote: (2^31 -1)km / 1 AU = 14.355 > 14.3 Related forum post - DScan change on Sisi as of Feb 26! Participate in testing, and don't you dare be demanding or not constructive in your feedback! :P G¥ñ "Little Things"-á G¥ñ CCP karkur G¥ñ |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
3207
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Posted - 2014.02.28 16:34:00 -
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Jinn Aideron wrote:CCP karkur wrote:Please don't feel terrible! ... Thanks for easing my conscience. You guys are the best! CCP karkur wrote:The max value of the KM field is set to be 14.3 AU, so I would find it strange if it was higher than the slider or the AU field, but i'll make sure I set it correctly I believe it could be because Quote: (2^31 -1)km / 1 AU = 14.355 > 14.3 that was the case before, but now the km field should literally be maxed at 14.3 * 149598... no longer the max int CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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Valterra Craven
152
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Posted - 2014.02.28 16:51:00 -
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CCP karkur,
I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but when mousing over systems and getting a list of objects (such as asteroid belts and stations) in the map, there's really weird lag time and sometimes fields will display at once when only one should display.
For example a system I want to look at has two NPC stations and in the menu you can look at what these stations have. Sometimes you mouse over one and nothing comes up, then you mouse to another and it comes up fine, but then all of a sudden the other station comes up and they overlap now! This is very frustrating. Also sometimes the menus seem to "timeout" really fast or seem to misunderstand that I don't want it to go away yet. Any chances on you looking at that? |
Jinn Aideron
17
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Posted - 2014.02.28 17:15:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:that was the case before, but now the km field should literally be maxed at 14.3 * 149598... no longer the max int *returns from quick visit to Sisi w/ a clarification* ;)
It is true that you cannot exceed the km field by slider or entering AU directly. But you can do this (steps to reproduce):
- Max out slider
- Enter a leading 9 into the km textfield
- Remove keyboard focus from km textfield
- Fallback mechanism caps at 2^31-1, with traditional warning sound
Now, if this ~8m km higher value for range later takes effect in the scan, I couldn't not verify, because I could not readily find anything to scan for at just the right distance D, 2.139.249.551 km < D < 2.147.483.647 km. :) Related forum post - DScan change on Sisi as of Feb 26! Participate in testing, and don't you dare be demanding or not constructive in your feedback! :P G¥ñ "Little Things"-á G¥ñ CCP karkur G¥ñ |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
3207
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Posted - 2014.02.28 17:45:00 -
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Jinn Aideron wrote:CCP karkur wrote:that was the case before, but now the km field should literally be maxed at 14.3 * 149598... no longer the max int *returns from quick visit to Sisi w/ a clarification* ;) It is true that you cannot exceed the km field by slider or entering AU directly. But you can do this (steps to reproduce):
- Max out slider
- Enter a leading 9 into the km textfield
- Remove keyboard focus from km textfield
- Fallback mechanism caps at 2^31-1, with traditional warning sound
Now, if this ~8m km higher value for range later takes effect in the scan, I couldn't not verify, because I could not readily find anything to scan for at just the right distance D, 2.139.249.551 km < D < 2.147.483.647 km. :) Thank you You're absolutely correct... I was setting the max value to m instead of km so it was way too high and capped at max int, will fix CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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