Basically just create a system similar to PI.

Each asteroid is targetted, scanned and red/green sectors are present on the roid to show mineral deposits.

Red areas are targetted and mining commences.

Asteroid changes size approximately every x numbers of cycles after minerals are drained and roid is pulled apart slowly by operations.

Rescan and recommence mining on new sectors.

Stop the devaluation of isk!

Botters + RMT + PLEX = isk becomes less worth the effort real miners have to put in = less miners = more botters able to find a foothold in the market.

Basically just create a system similar to PI.

Each asteroid is targetted, scanned and red/green sectors are present on the roid to show mineral deposits.

Red areas are targetted and mining commences.

Asteroid changes size approximately every x numbers of cycles after minerals are drained and roid is pulled apart slowly by operations.

Rescan and recommence mining on new sectors.

Stop the devaluation of isk!

Botters + RMT + PLEX = isk becomes less worth the effort real miners have to put in = less miners = more botters able to find a foothold in the market.

Kill all bots.

ok, but let me point this out to you, generating this (similar to PI) takes a few seconds to get in and out of, and assuming you haev an alt watching the belt so you KNOW that a ganker jst warped in, it would still take you a while to exit out and run... all i see is this making it easier for gankers to nab miners since miners would be zoomed in on a roid and unable to see the area around them.

Yes. lets Over complicate Mining to an extreme level.

Very bad bad idea.

Not worst....but not good either.

How is this overcomplicated?

Your brain still runnning at a year 2 level ?

You bring up a scan of an asteroid, you plop your laser on the biggest bright red patch. You mine.

Sounds really hard.

This means DYNAMIC content has to be added where only a human can interpret. (much like many forums have where you have to type in words interpreted from a picture in order to continue).

Its just raw materials... you gather...and bring it on board.
Why should we complicate it any further than that?

I don't know, to make an activity that takes hours and is outsourced to bots actually interesting? Possibly even a valid alternative - profit- AND excitement-wise - to harvesting rogue drones?
Spot on about the scanning part, though.

Oh - "Ore for brains" I find almost acceptable, a tongue-in-cheek sort of taunt. You're getting better. ;)

Make the belts grav sites - problem solved.

Highly interesting approach to a mining overhaul encouraging strategy, cooperation, and variety of activities.

the drone regions supply 99% of high grade minerals .

Source?

I'd love to have a discussion on mining with a different OP - maybe Endovior will turn his idea into a proposal of its own?

Source?

I'd love to have a discussion on mining with a different OP - maybe Endovior will turn his idea into a proposal of its own?

You need to edit your post once more dear:
Kill all mining bots and remove mining as option for the colour-blind!

You will NEVER be able to think up a way that hinders bots without also making it excruciating for humans. Instead you should think of of ways that make it less of an eye gouging exercise for people which is by far most frequently mentioned reason for resorting to mining bots.
Combine it with mechanics that encourage mining with friends/gangs by adding extra profitability through minigame sort of deals and bots become a non-issue (provided CCP keeps refining their detection tools).

Well changing mechanics won't help, honestly, using the skiff won't change the state of mining whatsoever.

Killing the botters is the issue.

The real problem is that most people can't seem to grasp the economics well enough to understand this.

Seriously, changing mineral values and mining barges?!?

How the **** does this stop the degredation of the value of isk - most of which happens due to RMTers most of which use mining as their source of income ?

Please do tell.

Facts -
High end minerals have not grown in the past 5 years (There aren't new belts being added to the game).
High end mineral values have decreased around 30% in the past 5 years and yet the player base has grown exponentially.
The same amount of minerals for more demand but lower incomes for miners.
The price of Plex has increased by 25% in the past 6 MONTHS.

So the amount of in-game minerals has remained the same.
Demand must increase with player numbers.
But with increased demand you SHOULD get increased income, instead something is effecting it in the opposite direction in a HUGE way.

The obvious reason for these changes is RMTers, not drone regions - which have been in the game for years.

I am not sure that this would be of any real use.

The miners that I know mine everything in a belt until there's nothing left. They wouldn't even waste their time scanning as they will mine it all anyway.

stuff

That said, bots use OCR, so no, it won't stop botting.

For the umpteenth time, botters already work grav sites.

How is this problem solved ?

I don't think bots are complicated enough to handle the little probing mini game. The problem with grav sites is that they stay around too long. Someone can probe it out, bookmark it, and have their regular mining bot run it all day.

Replace belts with small grav sites that deplete in 2-3 hours of mining at whatever rate people normally mine belts in highsec.

Also if you think the probing mini game is too hard for noobs then put some veldspar only belts in the starter areas until they go through the probing tutorial. Or better yet make them learn to probe before they can mine.