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Naraj
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:58:00 -
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OK has my last week in EVE been just bad luck or is this common practice and I should just cancel my account now?
1. The Vexor I managed to purchase and outfit for mining in .4 to .5 sec was destroyed by a gate camping 2 boxer in battleships and I was podded as well.
2. I managed with the ore I was able to mine with my Catalyst plus the insurance from the now dead and gone Vexor to purchase a thorax for ratting in .5 sec. I took a mission in .9 space and completed. While I am picking up my containers some (what I first thought) nooblet decides to steal from my cans. I target and light him up before I can really do anything my thorax os destroyed by his interceptor but I manage to get away before he can pod me.
3. Thinking that the whole thing is over and this punk has had his fun I get my destroyer and come back to get my cans. He pops up and if destroying my thorax wasn't enough he takes 50K from me to not destroy my catalyst.
Is this game just filled with griefers? If so, I'm out because this is f'n rediculous.
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Gen Kumon
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:00:00 -
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While I am picking up my containers some (what I first thought) nooblet decides to steal from my cans. I target and light him up before I can really do anything my thorax os destroyed by his interceptor but I manage to get away before he can pod me.
He's obviously not a "nublet" if he's flying an Inty...and you didn't have to engage. He most likely would have flown off if you hadn't attacked him. He was looking for a fight, and you chose to give him one.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:01:00 -
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yeah its a high level PVP game - better get ussed to it u loose stuff if that isnt good go back to WOW plz
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superscarface
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:01:00 -
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That is unlucky mate. But remember that there are tools out there to fight the griefers aswell, if I were you I would join a solid corp and start having fun.
It happens to everyone, I lost countless thoraxes in my first few months.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/04/2006 10:06:59
Originally by: Naraj
OK has my last week in EVE been just bad luck or is this common practice and I should just cancel my account now?
1. The Vexor I managed to purchase and outfit for mining in .4 to .5 sec was destroyed by a gate camping 2 boxer in battleships and I was podded as well.
2. I managed with the ore I was able to mine with my Catalyst plus the insurance from the now dead and gone Vexor to purchase a thorax for ratting in .5 sec. I took a mission in .9 space and completed. While I am picking up my containers some (what I first thought) nooblet decides to steal from my cans. I target and light him up before I can really do anything my thorax os destroyed by his interceptor but I manage to get away before he can pod me.
3. Thinking that the whole thing is over and this punk has had his fun I get my destroyer and come back to get my cans. He pops up and if destroying my thorax wasn't enough he takes 50K from me to not destroy my catalyst.
Is this game just filled with griefers? If so, I'm out because this is f'n rediculous.
You didn't list a single griefer in that post, but that's besides the point. Do you know what a griefer is?
1. You got destroyed by a gate camper. This means you made a mistake. Such as going into low sec without knowing how to use the scanner, or the map.
2. Well if he's in an interceptor, it doesn't sound like much of a "nooblet" to me. You can always reject the missions near gates if you don't want the risk.
3. Either your setup sucked or he really wasn't a "nooblet" 
I'd suggest you look for the various guides around the forum for staying alive in low sec and fitting your ship
P.S. Don't fly what you can't afford to replace!
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:02:00 -
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you made mistakes so you died. whats the big issue?
its a good incentive to learn to not **** up 
Win a Cerberus!!
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VinLieger
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:03:00 -
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1. 0.4 space isnt safe so thats not bad luck thats your own fault
2. I assume you were doing a lvl2 mission and the loot is crap in those and not worth fighting over anyway and its your own fault for not checking his ship or info
3. Thats your own fault again since he has kill rights on you for 15 minutes you should either wait 15 mins to do anything or keep an eye on local and when he leaves then undock
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:04:00 -
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if u didnt know about the 15 minute thing and .4 being dangerous u do now . Live and learn learn youre lessons and next time u will do better
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superscarface
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Naraj
OK has my last week in EVE been just bad luck or is this common practice and I should just cancel my account now?
1. The Vexor I managed to purchase and outfit for mining in .4 to .5 sec was destroyed by a gate camping 2 boxer in battleships and I was podded as well.
2. I managed with the ore I was able to mine with my Catalyst plus the insurance from the now dead and gone Vexor to purchase a thorax for ratting in .5 sec. I took a mission in .9 space and completed. While I am picking up my containers some (what I first thought) nooblet decides to steal from my cans. I target and light him up before I can really do anything my thorax os destroyed by his interceptor but I manage to get away before he can pod me.
3. Thinking that the whole thing is over and this punk has had his fun I get my destroyer and come back to get my cans. He pops up and if destroying my thorax wasn't enough he takes 50K from me to not destroy my catalyst.
Is this game just filled with griefers? If so, I'm out because this is f'n rediculous.
You didn't name a single griefer in that post, but that's besides the point.
1. You got destroyed by a gate camper. This means you made a mistake. Such as going into low sec without knowing how to use the scanner, or the map.
2. Well if he's in an interceptor, it doesn't sound like much of a "nooblet" to me. You can always reject the missions near gates if you don't want the risk.
3. Either your setup sucked or he really wasn't a "nooblet"
Way to encourage the new guy, I wish they didn't get met by a wall of elitism everytime they come to our forums. 
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:05:00 -
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My griefer detection system hasnt gone off, so i think your safe.
Anyway as Mr Sherbert Shikari says unfortunatly you made quite a few mistakes.
1) assuming because he was in a frig that he was a 'nooblet'
remedy - Right click - show info - look at date he started. Right click - sow info on his ship.
2) You didnt check the map, scanner etc etc etc. 0.4 is dangerous u should take as many precausions as possible.
3) When u die, LEAVE the can. its a pain but unless u got a kick a*s ship dont go back. write it down to experience.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:05:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/04/2006 10:06:02
Originally by: superscarface
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Naraj
OK has my last week in EVE been just bad luck or is this common practice and I should just cancel my account now?
1. The Vexor I managed to purchase and outfit for mining in .4 to .5 sec was destroyed by a gate camping 2 boxer in battleships and I was podded as well.
2. I managed with the ore I was able to mine with my Catalyst plus the insurance from the now dead and gone Vexor to purchase a thorax for ratting in .5 sec. I took a mission in .9 space and completed. While I am picking up my containers some (what I first thought) nooblet decides to steal from my cans. I target and light him up before I can really do anything my thorax os destroyed by his interceptor but I manage to get away before he can pod me.
3. Thinking that the whole thing is over and this punk has had his fun I get my destroyer and come back to get my cans. He pops up and if destroying my thorax wasn't enough he takes 50K from me to not destroy my catalyst.
Is this game just filled with griefers? If so, I'm out because this is f'n rediculous.
You didn't name a single griefer in that post, but that's besides the point.
1. You got destroyed by a gate camper. This means you made a mistake. Such as going into low sec without knowing how to use the scanner, or the map.
2. Well if he's in an interceptor, it doesn't sound like much of a "nooblet" to me. You can always reject the missions near gates if you don't want the risk.
3. Either your setup sucked or he really wasn't a "nooblet"
Way to encourage the new guy, I wish they didn't get met by a wall of elitism everytime they come to our forums.
Wait, on all the posts in this thread, you pick on mine as "elitist"?!?! Am I elitist for not telling him "OMG YOU NEED 20M SKILL POINTS TO PLAY EVE"?
Obviously, going by his post, he made a mistake. Am I supposed to lie to him and say he didn't? Making mistakes is part of learning--there's nothing wrong with saying someone made a mistake.
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superscarface
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:06:00 -
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They posted the rest while I was typing :/
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VinLieger
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: superscarface
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Naraj
OK has my last week in EVE been just bad luck or is this common practice and I should just cancel my account now?
1. The Vexor I managed to purchase and outfit for mining in .4 to .5 sec was destroyed by a gate camping 2 boxer in battleships and I was podded as well.
2. I managed with the ore I was able to mine with my Catalyst plus the insurance from the now dead and gone Vexor to purchase a thorax for ratting in .5 sec. I took a mission in .9 space and completed. While I am picking up my containers some (what I first thought) nooblet decides to steal from my cans. I target and light him up before I can really do anything my thorax os destroyed by his interceptor but I manage to get away before he can pod me.
3. Thinking that the whole thing is over and this punk has had his fun I get my destroyer and come back to get my cans. He pops up and if destroying my thorax wasn't enough he takes 50K from me to not destroy my catalyst.
Is this game just filled with griefers? If so, I'm out because this is f'n rediculous.
You didn't name a single griefer in that post, but that's besides the point.
1. You got destroyed by a gate camper. This means you made a mistake. Such as going into low sec without knowing how to use the scanner, or the map.
2. Well if he's in an interceptor, it doesn't sound like much of a "nooblet" to me. You can always reject the missions near gates if you don't want the risk.
3. Either your setup sucked or he really wasn't a "nooblet"
Way to encourage the new guy, I wish they didn't get met by a wall of elitism everytime they come to our forums.
hes got to learn that this isnt like wow and that theres people out there who are looking for a fight otherwise he will just come back and make another whine tomorrow
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Naraj
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
You didn't list a single griefer in that post, but that's besides the point. Do you know what a griefer is?
1. You got destroyed by a gate camper. This means you made a mistake. Such as going into low sec without knowing how to use the scanner, or the map.
2. Well if he's in an interceptor, it doesn't sound like much of a "nooblet" to me. You can always reject the missions near gates if you don't want the risk.
3. Either your setup sucked or he really wasn't a "nooblet"
WTF lady? You seem to think that I know everything about this bloody game? I just freaking started and was getting bored with running the same level 1 missions all over again and mining rich pelagiocast. So I decide to look for something interesting and this is the crap I get?
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: superscarface
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Naraj
...snip...
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Way to encourage the new guy, I wish they didn't get met by a wall of elitism everytime they come to our forums.
Dude. Elitism is NOT telling him his mistakes and teling him to live and learn.
dont jump on the stupid bandwagon.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/04/2006 10:11:13
Originally by: Naraj
Originally by: Dark Shikari
You didn't list a single griefer in that post, but that's besides the point. Do you know what a griefer is?
1. You got destroyed by a gate camper. This means you made a mistake. Such as going into low sec without knowing how to use the scanner, or the map.
2. Well if he's in an interceptor, it doesn't sound like much of a "nooblet" to me. You can always reject the missions near gates if you don't want the risk.
3. Either your setup sucked or he really wasn't a "nooblet"
WTF lady? You seem to think that I know everything about this bloody game? I just freaking started and was getting bored with running the same level 1 missions all over again and mining rich pelagiocast. So I decide to look for something interesting and this is the crap I get?
"Crap"?
What do you want me to do, give you cake and cookies?
You made a mistake, everyone does. Live and learn. Do you want me to lie to you and say "oh you did nothing wrong its just an ebil griefer"?
If you are so closed-minded and stubborn that you won't even listen to someone trying to help you just because they claim you made a simple, common set of mistakes (which to be honest, everyone makes), you should not be playing EVE.
I made these exact same mistakes when I started playing the game, and the solutions to some of these problems I had to find out for my own. Others I learned by asking and getting responses like I have given you today. But I actually read the posts and looked at the suggestions, and then read the appropriate guides. And I learned something.
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Feyt
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:11:00 -
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*chuckle* sounds like you had one of them days.
I would quite call it griefing, instead it was a bit of clever thinking on his end.
Out of curiosity, knowing that he might still be there when u return for your cans, why didnt you bring a friend or 2. Once bitten twice shy ya know.
Place yourself in the killers shoes, you've killed someone and have no way of carrying all the loot off in one go. do you
a. start running running back and forth hauling
b. swap into a hauler and fly back with the chance that you'll be waiting in a bs.
or c. wait around for you to come back and ransom you, and still have a chance to grab yr loot after you've been scared off.
Dont be disheartened tho, you can always carry a grudge against this guy and look forward to the day you bump into him when yopu have then upper hand.
Remeber, dying kinda sucks, but revenge is so so sweet.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: superscarface
Way to encourage the new guy, I wish they didn't get met by a wall of elitism everytime they come to our forums.
he died because he made mistakes. we could have said "you died because you a noob LOL come back when you gots 5million SP, but we didn't. And that wasn't why he died.
He died because he made mistakes. he needs to see that, or he will never correct those mistakes. I blew up a lot of ships learning to play this game, and i don't expect that there are any in game who didn't. you play, you learn. if you die, its not bad luck and its not griefing. YOU ****** up. its your fault.
when you learn to pin the blame on yourself, then you see how you can improve. As long as its the other guy's fault and you are perfect, that other guy is always going to be better than you.
We're here to help, not spread happy delusions.
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris
yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing
Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler
Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy
Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault
Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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superscarface
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:17:00 -
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I just got ganked ^_^
For the author, here is some useful advice. Join a corp, even a pirate one if you really feel the hate, and they can maybe help you with your losses.
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Taniya
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:18:00 -
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"So I decide to look for something interesting and this is the crap I get?"
Well some people say that "may you live in interesting times" is a curse.
You decided to go where things aren't safe or shoot at people. You can do that but to make things interesting there is a risk. A risk of loosing something you worked for.
The people you ran into are not griefers, they are other players just like you looking for something interesting.
May you live in interesting times
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Rikkard Strofeldt
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:30:00 -
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Rember the guys name, get a good ship, and pod him. Then write a thread about "my first PVP kill".
Trust me, killing someone in EVE is more of a rush then any other game, except maybe Descent 1 and 2.
There is real loss here. You don't just run around to where the weapon spawns and pick up a replacement. Here you buy a new ship, new fittings, insure it and head out again. Think of it this way, his intereptor costs a few beans. How upset will he be when you vapourise it around him.
Revenge is a dish best served cold. Join us on the dark side. Much more fun to be had there. 
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:54:00 -
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Edited by: Laythun on 19/04/2006 10:53:56
Originally by: superscarface
I just got ganked ^_^
Dont worry it happens to the best.
2006.04.19 10:18:00
Victim: superscarface
Corp: Battel Angels Inc
Forum: EVE General Discussion
Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Laythun
Security: -0.2
Corp: Cosmic Fusion
Weapon: Leetspeak
Name: HippoKing
Security: +1.4
Corp: The I-Win Button
Weapon: Bandwagoning
Name: Dark Shikari (laid the final blow)
Security: +3.5
Alliance: Firmus Ixion
Corp: Imperium Technologies
Weapon: Resonable Arguement 1
Destroyed items:
Forum Posting
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If im flaming or not contributing im sorry, but im trying to get into th [23]
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:11:00 -
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WTF lady? You seem to think that I know everything about this bloody game? I just freaking started and was getting bored with running the same level 1 missions all over again and mining rich pelagiocast. So I decide to look for something interesting and this is the crap I get?
I think it's fair to say she understands your situation better than you do. You went up against an interceptor twice, the fact you lost proves it was a mistake. Her saying 'you screwed up' is perfectly valid when... well.... you screwed up!
If you can't reflect on your mistakes and learn from them, you're probably playing the wrong game.
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Embattle
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:23:00 -
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As others have said he isn't a griefer but neither is it a very nice thing to do....but you live and learn and sometimes you die and learn.
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Obmud
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:25:00 -
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Engaging an interceptor... For the Record, this is a tec 2 ship, while not offering enourmomous firepower (still enough to pick you apart) it is hella fast and you won't be able to even have a 1% chance to kill him since he must be in the game alot longer than you, thus giving him the skills to actually fly that ship. Whatever... you engaged him, bad mistake. You learned from it. You gained "experience" my friend.
0.4 is not the place to go if you can't deal with getting destroyed. Simple as is. We all had to learn this sometimes I guess.
If you want to run missions, there are plenty agents that won't send you to 0.4 or less go find them. get happy, but don't expect an unsafe place to be safe. That's what you're actually doing. And for the podding thing... get over it, it's just like that.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:37:00 -
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just a slight comment on #2...
1) I severely doubt he planned on blowing you up. in fact he probably planned on having to run away.
2) I wouldn't expect you to be able to blow him up, as you wouldn't be likely to have a warp scrambler... but where was your webber? and drones? at least when I think of thorax fittings its kinda "guns, check. AB/MWD, check. webber, check.
3) get drone interfacing 3. ... yesterday.
you won't belive the difference it will make.
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Warpus
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:42:00 -
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I just started this game about 3 days ago. I've been playing MMO's since everquest, and I can honostly say this is the first game that gives me that feeling of dread when I enter certain areas. I've been in 0.4 space a couple times now (I have about 24 hours played I believe) and I'm always as on guard as I possibly can be. I always throw my shields up and am ready to warp at the slightest hint of danger.
Will this save me or my new Merlin? Nope lol. The thing I find fun is the fact that when I complete a mission in places like that as a complete and total noob, I really feel like I got away with something. I realize it won't last forever though. Someone out there is going to pod me, but when it happens I can be happy with the fact that I did everything I could with the limited amount of knowledge that I have in this game.
Live and learn, as they say =)
P.S. If you see a guy named Warpis flying around in a merlin, think to yourself "free kill!" because at this point I pretty much am lol.
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:01:00 -
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Most of the replies have been pretty helpfull if you take their advice. Coming to the forums screaming omgwtfgriefer and threatening to quit isn't exactly the best way to get help.
1. Eve is a PvP game and you were in a PvP area (0.0 - 0.4 space). This guy was pirating which is a perfectly valid proffesion. Theres lots of guides all over the forums that deals with lowsec safety.
2. Can flagging gives you the chanse to engage theives, you dont have to. You attacked him and he can then defend himself, which he did. Since it appears you have no problem attacking other players isn't a bit hypocritical to compain when you get beaten? Or were you just hoping for an easy kill on a noob? (omg greifer!)
3. If you take from the can your effectivly stealing his loot, you proably got a popup warning about that. And if it was still within 15 minutes of your fight then you'd both still be flagged.
IMHO Eve actually has very few griefers compaired to other games. Theres not many problems that can't be solved by simply using bigger guns 
Stick with it, relise that EVE is a PvP game and revenge can be sweet 
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun
Edited by: Laythun on 19/04/2006 10:53:56
Originally by: superscarface
I just got ganked ^_^
Dont worry it happens to the best.
2006.04.19 10:18:00
Victim: superscarface
Corp: Battel Angels Inc
Forum: EVE General Discussion
Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Laythun
Security: -0.2
Corp: Cosmic Fusion
Weapon: Leetspeak
Name: HippoKing
Security: +1.4
Corp: The I-Win Button
Weapon: Bandwagoning
Name: Dark Shikari (laid the final blow)
Security: +3.5
Alliance: Firmus Ixion
Corp: Imperium Technologies
Weapon: Resonable Arguement 1
Destroyed items:
Forum Posting
rofl
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: superscarface
I just got ganked ^_^
Dont worry it happens to the best.
2006.04.19 10:18:00
Victim: superscarface
Corp: Battel Angels Inc
Forum: EVE General Discussion
Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Laythun
Security: -0.2
Corp: Cosmic Fusion
Weapon: Leetspeak
Name: HippoKing
Security: +1.4
Corp: The I-Win Button
Weapon: Bandwagoning
Name: Dark Shikari (laid the final blow)
Security: +3.5
Alliance: Firmus Ixion
Corp: Imperium Technologies
Weapon: Resonable Arguement 1
Destroyed items:
Forum Posting
I think I've started a new cliche here.
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Stitcher
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Naraj
1. The Vexor I managed to purchase and outfit for mining in .4 to .5 sec was destroyed by a gate camping 2 boxer in battleships and I was podded as well.
So many people seemingly feel the urge to dive into low sec space as soon as they have a half-decent ship around them. The thing to remember is that .4 and below is simply never safe, and if you go out there, you do have to accept that losing your ship is on the cards. on the other hand, the reward often outweighs the risk (ironically, there's usually less risk in 0.0 systems, as there are less people willing to go out there - but I wouldn't advise going out there at all unless you're friendly with the local alliance in some way.)
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2. I managed with the ore I was able to mine with my Catalyst plus the insurance from the now dead and gone Vexor to purchase a thorax for ratting in .5 sec. I took a mission in .9 space and completed. While I am picking up my containers some (what I first thought) nooblet decides to steal from my cans. I target and light him up before I can really do anything my thorax os destroyed by his interceptor but I manage to get away before he can pod me.
Can thieves really are griefers, but they're sneaky griefers in that they want to provoke you into opening fire, so even if you DO destroy them, CONCORD comes along and splatters you.
The golden rule with PvP in empire is to never open fire on anybody unless there's red showing - this means that they've already opened fire on you, or else that you have kill rights, or are at war with them. If there's no red anywhere near their name, don't shoot.
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3. Thinking that the whole thing is over and this punk has had his fun I get my destroyer and come back to get my cans. He pops up and if destroying my thorax wasn't enough he takes 50K from me to not destroy my catalyst.
Is this game just filled with griefers? If so, I'm out because this is f'n rediculous.
I sympathise, but making a couple of understandable mistakes and getting your behind handed to you by a guy who was out to cause trouble isn't really good reason to quit. Just put him on your hit list, and build yourself back up to that Thorax. Hell, I've got a few players I intend to punish for past infractions against me, but that's life in this game.
There are griefers, sure, as with any game... but they are far and away the minority, in my experience.
The ebst advice: it's a game. don't take things personally.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: superscarface
I just got ganked ^_^
Dont worry it happens to the best.
2006.04.19 10:18:00
Victim: superscarface
Corp: Battel Angels Inc
Forum: EVE General Discussion
Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Laythun
Security: -0.2
Corp: Cosmic Fusion
Weapon: Leetspeak
Name: HippoKing
Security: +1.4
Corp: The I-Win Button
Weapon: Bandwagoning
Name: Dark Shikari (laid the final blow)
Security: +3.5
Alliance: Firmus Ixion
Corp: Imperium Technologies
Weapon: Resonable Arguement 1
Destroyed items:
Forum Posting
I think I've started a new cliche here.
clique or cliche?
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If im flaming or not contributing im sorry, but im trying to get into th [23]
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sPutniKa
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:44:00 -
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Look on it as a learning experience, not as a bad week. Last week I lost 3 ravens, a dominix and a brutix within the space of 48 hours. They were all due to mistakes I made such as not checking out the details of a lvl 4 mission properly before warping in and not paying attention at a gate in a 0.2 system.
I won't make any of those mistakes again, I can tell you - however since I had already learned the most important lesson a long time ago none of those losses were devastating, and the most important lesson is "Never fly anything you can't afford to replace!".
Originally by: Miss Overlord
yeah its a high level PVP game - better get ussed to it u loose stuff if that isnt good go back to WOW plz
Luckily not all of EVE is populated by semi-literate children like that poster so don't worry about it, learn & adapt 
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:58:00 -
[34]
In this game, everyone with a few skills seems bigger than you to start with. As you gain more skills and more experience, you begin to see that they start to get smaller and smaller. If you specialise in certain weapons and get skills that add more damage, range and rate of fire to those weapons, chances are that you will soon be better than half of those "griefers" who often spread their skills out too thin.
You lost a 6 million isk ship, so come back later when you have the skills to make mincemeat of his inty. He lost a 30 million isk ship, now who's going to be crying?
When I travel to lowsec on occasion, I expect to lose my ship so it's a bonus to me if I make it back with the hull still intact. If you look at it from that viewpoint, each successful trip is a bonus and each time you lost a ship, you were expecting it anyway so it's no real loss. Always remember rule number 1. In lowsec, don't fly what you can't afford to replace.
On a final note: If you have a cruiser or a BS, don't immediately think it's better than a smaller ship just because it's bigger. It takes a fair amount of skills to swat those little frigates that buzz around you like flies. So until you have those skills, keep your combat to frigates yourself and you'll be surprised how effective those small guns can be when you ramp up the skills for them. Ramp up the skills for medium guns before you get into the cruiser and they can be just as effective against frigates but experience helps since you also need to learn different tactical moves to do it. My skills are not that good, but at a reasonable range which is outside their range, I can pop a frigate in two volleys from my BC guns. When I first got in it, I nearly got ganked by a single frigate.
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Smagd
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:43:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Laythun
Dont worry it happens to the best.
2006.04.19 10:18:00
Victim: superscarface
Corp: Battel Angels Inc
Forum: EVE General Discussion
Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Laythun
Security: -0.2
Corp: Cosmic Fusion
Weapon: Leetspeak
Name: HippoKing
Security: +1.4
Corp: The I-Win Button
Weapon: Bandwagoning
Name: Dark Shikari (laid the final blow)
Security: +3.5
Alliance: Firmus Ixion
Corp: Imperium Technologies
Weapon: Resonable Arguement 1
Destroyed items:
Forum Posting
Oh dear. This is 0.0? That explains a few things. Should have checked the frigging maps. There must be a red blob for post kills visible right to the EVE Technology and Research Center region.
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Naraj
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Posted - 2006.04.19 18:58:00 -
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My apologies to Shikari. I am still a little hot about losing 2 cruisers. ESPECIALLY since I just bought them. I know that I screwed up in attacking the interceptor. Like I said originally I thought he was a nooblet. My first character was a minmatar so when I saw the graphic for the ship I recognized it as a frigate ship I know that their interceptor used the same graphic.
As for using scanners I still have yet to figure out the bloody thing works. I use it when I hit an asteroid field to see if there is anything worth mining. I don't know how to use it for a full system. So when I warped back to the scene of the crime (incidentally still in .9 space) I didn't see him on the overhead. I figured it was safe to go grab my stuff.
Finally I know that .0 to .4 is pvp zone. But even in .4 there are still gate defense cannons. WTF didn't they shred this dude's BCs when he lit me up? Don't they know when to attack?
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:08:00 -
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Quote:
WTF didn't they shred this dude's BCs when he lit me up
I though it was two Battleships? Properly fitted, Battleships can tank sentry guns for long enough to 'gank'.
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Torrence Osti
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:18:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Laythun
Edited by: Laythun on 19/04/2006 10:53:56
Originally by: superscarface
I just got ganked ^_^
Dont worry it happens to the best.
2006.04.19 10:18:00
Victim: superscarface
Corp: Battel Angels Inc
Forum: EVE General Discussion
Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Laythun
Security: -0.2
Corp: Cosmic Fusion
Weapon: Leetspeak
Name: HippoKing
Security: +1.4
Corp: The I-Win Button
Weapon: Bandwagoning
Name: Dark Shikari (laid the final blow)
Security: +3.5
Alliance: Firmus Ixion
Corp: Imperium Technologies
Weapon: Resonable Arguement 1
Destroyed items:
Forum Posting
LOL
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: superscarface
Way to encourage the new guy, I wish they didn't get met by a wall of elitism everytime they come to our forums.
Elitism? We talk about the basics of this game.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:48:00 -
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Naraj I feel for you I do. I know a lot of people come into this game without realizing that there are a lot of malicious players out there in EVE space that take extreme pleasure in depriving other players of everything they've worked hard for. As many will tell you it's part of the game. However the EVE you play doesn't have to have the scales tipped in the favor of the bad guys. Take this moment to learn from recent events and then go forward and be proactive in developing a safer more just EVE.
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.04.19 21:39:00 -
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Yeah, I've had the same thing for about 4 months now. Lost 2 fully tech II / named BS's within 24 hours of eachother, both less than 3 hours old. I think its stopped slightly now, I've not died in 5 days 
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Originally by: Oveur
I see boobies! \o/
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.04.19 21:55:00 -
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Quote:
I know a lot of people come into this game without realizing that there are a lot of malicious players out there in EVE space that take extreme pleasure in depriving other players of everything they've worked hard for.
That is totally unfair! We pirate because it's a profession. It's a part of the game. When I find someone I don't think 'oooh it's going to be fun to deprive him of that Thorax'. I think 'Ransom!' or 'TECH 2! GIMME!'.
We're not inherently evil just because we kill other players, it's called PvP.
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.04.20 01:36:00 -
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Congratulations, you have found what you were looking for, no? Eve doesnt offer you cuter elves, greener trees, etc. It offers you
1. Plenty of griefers to make the game interesting in a special way.
2. "A meaning to pvp" - also known as GRIND that is comparable (or worse) then what most people do to earn a living in "real life", whatever that is.
Oh and by the way, you just leveled up. Since in eve, the player knowledge matters quite a lot.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.04.20 02:57:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Hunters Presence
Quote:
I know a lot of people come into this game without realizing that there are a lot of malicious players out there in EVE space that take extreme pleasure in depriving other players of everything they've worked hard for.
That is totally unfair! We pirate because it's a profession. It's a part of the game. When I find someone I don't think 'oooh it's going to be fun to deprive him of that Thorax'. I think 'Ransom!' or 'TECH 2! GIMME!'.
We're not inherently evil just because we kill other players, it's called PvP.
If you are one of the few who actually ransom then I'll give you a nod, most do not however. To note It's taken me a week and a half to earn back what 2 pirates in BSs took from me in less than a minute, so yeah I say malicious. Maybe its different for PvPers with millions and millions in their accounts, for the newer players it's a lot more costly.
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AlienBreed
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Posted - 2006.04.20 05:24:00 -
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Edited by: AlienBreed on 20/04/2006 05:25:12
There is deffinately something wrong with a game when the guy being wronged is the one that gets shafted or in this case double shafted
Hes minding his own business and somebody steals from him and yet he ends up in the pod
I know there are people reading this that cant wait to come back with "oh well he didnt have to fire its his own fault" but i very much feel that can theifs should not have the rigth to return fire, after all nobody forces them to steal and if they do they should have to take their chances
The system as it is has created a new form of grief play where the lamer steals not because he wants to take an item and profit but in the hopes of getting a respose and then killing a weaker player - i think noobs ought to be protected from that and its not like its difficult to steal and be gone b4 the owner can even lock
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The Jackhammer
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:11:00 -
[46]
Edited by: The Jackhammer on 20/04/2006 11:16:41
Originally by: Naraj
<snip>.... 2. I managed with the ore I was able to mine with my Catalyst plus the insurance from the now dead and gone Vexor to purchase a thorax for ratting in .5 sec. I took a mission in .9 space and completed. While I am picking up my containers some (what I first thought) nooblet decides to steal from my cans. I target and light him up before I can really do anything my thorax os destroyed by his interceptor but I manage to get away before he can pod me.
2006.04.18 19:43
Victim: Naraj
Alliance: None
Corp: Federal Navy Academy
Destroyed: Thorax
System: Oursulaert
Security: 0.9
Involved parties:
Name: The Jackhammer (laid the final blow)
Originally by: Naraj
3. Thinking that the whole thing is over and this punk has had his fun I get my destroyer and come back to get my cans. He pops up and if destroying my thorax wasn't enough he takes 50K from me to not destroy my catalyst.
The Jackhammer > sorry im a pirate
The Jackhammer > :-)
The Jackhammer > pay me 100k or i take this ship
The Jackhammer > times ticking
Naraj > dude you just obliterated my
other ship let me be with this one
please? It's my only other one.
The Jackhammer > 100k
Naraj > 50?
The Jackhammer > sold
The Jackhammer > i will leave the system then
Naraj > you have your money
The Jackhammer > ok im out
The Jackhammer > enjoy the rest of your day
EVE System > Naraj was kicked from the channel by The
Jackhammer., Effective until 2006.04.18 20:29:18, Reason: "business concluded".
 I feel like I conducted myself as a VERY honorable Pirate (if that makes sense). Even Though 100k probably didnt even pay for the ammo I used on you  . BUT I none the less felt bad ....
Originally by: Naraj
Is this game just filled with griefers? If so, I'm out because this is f'n rediculous.
I'm truely sorry you feel like you're being griefed. Ask ANYONE in game that knows me ... I'm far from a 'griefer'. I was honestly creeping around the system, I was about to leave AND you turned into a 'Target of Opportunity'. I 'BAITED' you AND you were hooked like a 10 LBS BASS.
BTW: Look for my soon to come GUIDE:
'You TOO can be a 'MASTER' Baiter !!'
1. You didn't have to shoot at me. (But deep down inside I was hoping you did)
2. You did.
3. You Paid the price.
4. Lesson learned ?
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Naraj,
I've been playing the game for 2+ years now. I totally empathize with where you are ATM. New to the game, wanting to have nice ships, No money, not having enough playing time, skill changing in the middle of the night.
We've ALL been there. Some of us are still going through it. EVE is a WONDERFUL game and don't let one bad experience put you off. YOUR greatest asset in the game IS the friends you make along the way. In the END ... just remember its JUST a game ... and if you truly aren't having fun ... then don't play.
Thats the MAIN reason I'm now doing what i do in the game. I've just about done it all. I've Mined, I've Run missions, I've had a small POS, My ALT created a FUN AS HELL alliance, I've flown a 120 jump RACE, I've gone through 20+ wars in 1 year (done ALOT of running). The Game has ALOT to offer.
NOW its time for someone else to be on the ASS end of the 'BEATING' stick!!
So I've taken up pirating
Thank-You,
The Jackhammer
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Rina Shanu
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:34:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Naraj
Originally by: Dark Shikari
You didn't list a single griefer in that post, but that's besides the point. Do you know what a griefer is?
1. You got destroyed by a gate camper. This means you made a mistake. Such as going into low sec without knowing how to use the scanner, or the map.
2. Well if he's in an interceptor, it doesn't sound like much of a "nooblet" to me. You can always reject the missions near gates if you don't want the risk.
3. Either your setup sucked or he really wasn't a "nooblet"
WTF lady? You seem to think that I know everything about this bloody game? I just freaking started and was getting bored with running the same level 1 missions all over again and mining rich pelagiocast. So I decide to look for something interesting and this is the crap I get?
No, you did not get any crap, you got something more interesting! Thats exactly what you got!
SO learn by this experience and become better!
What everybody here is trying to tell you is that you could have avoided all of this. This means that next time You SHOULD be a little better prepared.
Welcome to the game
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glorious emotion
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:34:00 -
[48]
Originally by: The Jackhammer
NOW its time for someone else to be on the ASS end of the 'BEATING' stick!!
So I've taken up pirating
Nice post
Personally I think that The Jackhammer should take Naraj under his wing and train him up to be a hardened pirate in the harsh world of EVE. Think Karate Kid II.
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Sharcy
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Posted - 2006.04.20 11:50:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Miss Overlord
yeah its a high level PVP game - better get ussed to it u loose stuff if that isnt good go back to WOW plz
Ah, so you know him from there do you?
(I have yet to read a single coherent post from you)
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