Easiest way to fix this is to make it a module/skill

High Slot Module that only interceptors can fit, when active allows bubble immunity, but reduces lock time/range and takes up a high slot (less DPS)

So, if you want mobility and the ability to scout for your fleet and get out of bubbles, you fit for it.

If you want to take the risk of getting caught in exchange for catch your target faster and applying more damage, then do it.

Immunity to bubbles created a new nano age, and like the old nano age it's terrible balance and results in a binary ship option; "do I want to win? then I'll need nano/inty". The result of this plague of inties is that it completely messed up true solo pvp. It's easily the worst decision Fozzie And Rise have made so far.

I think CCP should make a weapon system that shoot Light Missiles Rapidly to counter these Interceptors.

Oh.....

Please detail one real situation that actually happens where this change would make any amount of difference

Lone interceptors getting past my camps are 2STRONK4ME. NERF 4 PLZ CCP NAOW!

Please detail one real situation that actually happens where this change would make any amount of difference. All I can see is you wanting a stationary ship to be able to catch the fastest ship in the game. This is of course, not useful, unless you have several people backing you up to kill it before it simply leaves. So...

Is your blob having trouble catching interceptors? Poor baby.

You know full well that the problem isn't one intie, it's a swarm of them, fcking over solo pvpers.

You know full well that the problem isn't one intie, it's a swarm of them, fcking over solo pvpers.

You know full well that the problem isn't one intie, it's a swarm of them, fcking over solo pvpers.

Oh, hey. Another sad nullsec babby.

Interestingly enough, we don't have bubbles in lowsec. So we don't get to bubble anything. And yet many things, including inties, still die daily. They're caught using skill, wits, and the proper ships and fittings designed to do so.

Bubble camps have made a certain subset of the null population lax and wholly ineffectual, lacking entirely the skills to tackle and pin down anything that is not first caught in a bubble. There are plenty of tools that allow one to do this, even with regards to interceptors, and yet that subset of people refuses to even attempt to use them.

Your argument is all over the place. You complain about them being uncatchable, but also say they can't really do anything because they have a very weak tank.

What is the big deal with Inties being able to fly around like you said? What exactly is your objection other than you don't like the changes?

Again please read before you post as you would also see I was talking about 0.0 NOT LOW Sec as that's where my experience lies.

I did read. I see a nullsec babby who openly admits that he has no experience outside of the nullsec venue, and that lack of experience clouds his ability to understand that not only are interceptors able to be caught, but it is rather easily done. Furthermore, when people who do have the experience tell said nullsec babby that what he wants (a way to catch inties) already exists, he simply grows more petulant, because those ways are not the lazy ways he wants.

Inites are immune to bubbles now. All bubbles. Get over it.

You do not need bubbles to catch them. At all.

Stop being ******* lazy and figure out how to catch them without bubbles.

This is not a **** swinging contest I would like some input not just 'NULL SEC BABY' bullshit.

Personally, I think the interdiction nullification mechanic itself is too strong, and that is what needs to change.

Several years ago, CCP had a patch that "accidentallied" the Interdiction Nullified subsystem of T3's. The nerf made it so Nullified ships could warp OUT of a bubble without issue, but if there was a drag/catch bubble at their warp destination, they'd get pulled into it.

I think that was an excellent balance for the interdiction nullification mechanic, and I wish they'd make such a change permanent!

Imho CCP should remove the bubble-immunity from interceptors.
Bubble-immunity is too good compared to the price of an interceptor.
You want super-cool bubble-immunity? Pay for it! (T3)

12M for nullifier + 6M for cloak is exactly the same as an inty.

So... Can you propose a swarm of something that doesn't "fck over solo pvpers"? Or are you just upset that your skirmish ship has a counter now?

I'd be good with this, on both T3s and interceptors. Penalize warping to gates stupidly, and re-enable ceptor-trapping bubble campers, but do not limit the mobility of either T3s or interceptors.

1) most soloers are kinda forced into kiting ships, for obvious reasons
2) kiting ships rely on being able to outmanoeuvre stuff they can't outdps and outdps stuff they can't outmanoeuvre
3) suddenly the perfect counter to kiting ships becomes hilariously OP to a point where they're now an epidemic, epidemics are never good becaus it kills other options and is a clear indication something is way too good
4) solo pvp is now dead


Binary ship or fitting choices that result in binary OP/not OP are terrible, just as nano fits were back then. "must bring a single type of ship/fit" is terribly boring and unbalanced. One can of course ignore that and go "lol I fly inties it's hilarious" but if one chooses to be realistic and not a hypocrite that's not a valid stance to have.

And don't get me started on how detrimental fleet booster are to solo PvP...

1.) I personally like brawling ships for soloing, and disagree with the "most soloers are forced into kiting ships". Your premise here is complete bologna, although there is a general preference to "kiting" over "brawling" soloers.

3.) Interceptors aren't the perfect kiting ships, nor are they the perfect counter to kiting ships. They're tank and damage is too small to make them perfect at either of these roles! What are you trying to say here?

4.) Solo PvP is not dead, but it does seem harder and harder to find. This has more to do with people becoming familiar with ingame tactics, and with players becoming more organized (making them harder to take on solo). And don't get me started on how detrimental fleet booster are to solo PvP...

Have you actually read my 1st post or you just a bad troll that never reads anything and just opens their mouth over and over with pointless opinions and posts...

I don't think HICs should be the one ship to counter them. However, an interesting idea while reading the tears in here came to me. How about the light dictor that can load the regular inter. bubble or one that only disrupts inties? And maybe a script for the hic that only disrupts inties? That way they both have their choice. Makes it harder to travel safely in the lone inty but makes a gate camp decide what to go for when a fleet of mixed ships comes in. Of course, then the campers can just have 2 HICs, one with each script, or the same with the light d. *shrug* Personally, I think it would be fun for the HIC to have a heavy webbing script. But that's just me.

YOUR CAPS LOCK IS ON


But in all seriousness, there's no need to nerf the intie's. Just adjust your tactics. As a solo pilot you should always have some sort of anti-tackle equipped. Use it... then leave before their friends show up.

Also, anything that reduces an interceptor's ability to perform in its roll, such as reduced lock time or range, is a terrible idea.

Please be serious.. You are missing interceptor kills in your camps in 0.0 because interceptors are the only vessels that travel around 0.0 now. If you kill their immunity your empty 0.0 will be again a desert of no ships.

As opposed to "overpowered is bad because then only overpowered ships fly around a lot" which is all the OP really said?

Yeah that makes sense.

Speed Tank, GTFO-ability, DPS (300 dps on a taranis...srsly!?!?) fastest warp, and 30km scram, ability to engage pretty much any ship, ability to disengage whenever they choose (and get away to the next system).

Flame away :)

fyp, I'm sure you could have figured that out yourself.

You're being overly dramatic.

Easiest way to fix this is to make it a module/skill

High Slot Module that only interceptors can fit, when active allows bubble immunity, but reduces lock time/range and takes up a high slot (less DPS)

So, if you want mobility and the ability to scout for your fleet and get out of bubbles, you fit for it.

If you want to take the risk of getting caught in exchange for catch your target faster and applying more damage, then do it.

Except that was part of the reason for the change in the first place. To make it easier for Inties to fly around anyway.

I hope CCP doesn't give in to the knee-jerk reactions in this thread towards the Inty buff. Give it more time for the dust to settle on exactly how much of an impact this change really is having and then make a call.

Easiest way to fix this is to make it a module/skill

High Slot Module that only interceptors can fit, when active allows bubble immunity, but reduces lock time/range and takes up a high slot (less DPS)

So, if you want mobility and the ability to scout for your fleet and get out of bubbles, you fit for it.

If you want to take the risk of getting caught in exchange for catch your target faster and applying more damage, then do it.

i totally agree they are way too strong with 0 counter unless you have a arazu and a huginn... but even then they are still able to escape (most of the time) i would at least like to see a HIC bubble that could stop the nulli for them.... just because you never see hics solo or with a gang (most of the time)

This is a good idea. HIC with a unique role :) n yeah I realise they have FIS.

Interceptors are weak as hell, you're just flying the wrong ships to engage them. What is this argument about anyway? Interceptors are to strong because you can't catch them? Ridiculous argument.

the worst case scenario is the Interceptors leave without taking losses. Best case is the other gang catches one or two interceptors and drives them off.

So how are they dictating the engagement? Put light drones on them, they run away. Put a heavy neut on them, they run away. Put a web on them they run away. Sneeze at them, they die. So they can point from 30+ km. It doesn't mean anything if you're not dying.

So how are they dictating the engagement? Put light drones on them, they run away. Put a heavy neut on them, they run away. Put a web on them they run away. Sneeze at them, they die. So they can point from 30+ km. It doesn't mean anything if you're not dying.

Every other ship type, even in gangs, has to seriously consider the consequences of committing to the fight. Interceptors have way too much freedom in this regard.

Let's turn this around a little bit. Let's remove bubble immunity from the interceptors, but also remove bubbles except for HICs. Fair trade?

Seriously if anything is OP it is bubbles. It locks people out of significant areas of null sec space effectively barring the "good fights" everyone says they want.

I took 6 drakes and a rohk to deep stain the other day in about 40 minutes. Not a single bubble was encountered in my 2 jumps from high to there.