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Treborprime
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Posted - 2006.05.03 13:18:00 -
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 Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Originally by: Gonada
lol and instantly the whiners come out to cry exploit, when in-highsec- ganking is not?
suck it up babys
it's no exploit, it's a legitimate strategy
no its not you are exploiting game mechanics to get around preset penalties for attacking in High Security space.
The risk a hauler takes is 1000's times more higher than a suicide ganker. The ganker takes no risk at all whatsoever. Security hits and the loss of a small ship mean nothing. The loss of a hauler and its cargo is infinitely more devasting.
Its all about Risk vs Reward and the equation MUST be balanced. In this regard both sides of the ball the equation is drastically unbalanced. The hauler assumes way to much risk and the suicide runner takes absolutely none.
there is no counter point to this.
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.05.03 15:47:00 -
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no its not you are exploiting game mechanics to get around preset penalties for attacking in High Security space.
This depends what you mean by exploit. By your definition, I can't use warp scramblers because it would be exploiting a game mechanic (using the warp scrambler) in order to gain an advantage. Same with ECM, webbers, my weapons, the scanner, everything else.
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there is no counter point to this.
You can just feel the arrogance flowing out of this statement.
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Auman
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Posted - 2006.05.03 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Treborprime
Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Originally by: Gonada
lol and instantly the whiners come out to cry exploit, when in-highsec- ganking is not?
suck it up babys
it's no exploit, it's a legitimate strategy
no its not you are exploiting game mechanics to get around preset penalties for attacking in High Security space.
No, the penelty for attacking in high sec space is that the attacker will/must lose their ship, CCP have made this clear before. No place in EVE is 100% safe... except the inside of a station i guess 
In regards to BM's doing anything to deliberately lag out other players is going to get you in trouble whether you knew it would do it or not. I'd stay away from tactics like that if it was me, there are plenty of other options.
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.05.03 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: OrangeAfroMan
Simply having the BMs in your cargo shouldnt cause lag for anybody except people scanning your cargo.
Apparently that isn't true though, for some reason. People have been caught and banned for filling tons of cans with bookmarks to cause lag in a system, I believe.
This sounds like urban legend to me. Maybe the problem was them dropping gazillions of cans and not their content?
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Draquin
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Posted - 2006.05.03 16:19:00 -
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Guys theirs a simple solution
Step 1 take a pile of crap items and escro it to yourself, when it drops its in shrink wrap
take PBCs and do the same
load up one or the other and fly around in it in a disposable ship or shuttle useing a no skill alt that will fly around from gate to gate on autopilot while you shower eat, have more fun with your significant other than the law will allow, sleep or whatever it is you do when your not actualy playing. if they scan and gank they get crapola for the effort and your out some junk and a cheep ship while they are out the ships it cost them to do it.
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Prestis
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Posted - 2006.05.03 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Prestis on 03/05/2006 17:02:34
Carrying around thousands of bookmarks in your hold kinda suggests you've got something to hide. Something worth hiding.
There'll be some pirates who'd go for it anyway.
And bookmarks don't cause lag just by existing or being looked at, it's the copying that kills the system.
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MILL17331H 2190TEP
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Posted - 2006.05.03 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: MILL17331H 2190TEP on 03/05/2006 18:14:24
Would people in Jita pay for a Logistics ship to supply them with remote shields (shield transporters) and remote armour repairer as they tarveled through Jita?
e.i. remote tanking
Hmmm, possible money making venture. 
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Jahah Smith
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Posted - 2006.05.04 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: MILL17331H 2190TEP
Edited by: MILL17331H 2190TEP on 03/05/2006 18:14:24
Would people in Jita pay for a Logistics ship to supply them with remote shields (shield transporters) and remote armour repairer as they tarveled through Jita?
e.i. remote tanking
Hmmm, possible money making venture.
Unfortunatly, as I understand it ANY activated module on another ship gives an aggro, so doing this would give you concord aggro and you would most likely loose the ship
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Ima Hattoi
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Posted - 2006.05.04 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shimpu
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: OrangeAfroMan
Simply having the BMs in your cargo shouldnt cause lag for anybody except people scanning your cargo.
Apparently that isn't true though, for some reason. People have been caught and banned for filling tons of cans with bookmarks to cause lag in a system, I believe.
This sounds like urban legend to me. Maybe the problem was them dropping gazillions of cans and not their content?
that would explain why the 1 or 2 min (cant remember witch now) waiting time before u can jetison a new can is there ..
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MILL17331H 2190TEP
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Posted - 2006.05.04 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jahah Smith
Originally by: MILL17331H 2190TEP
Edited by: MILL17331H 2190TEP on 03/05/2006 18:14:24
Would people in Jita pay for a Logistics ship to supply them with remote shields (shield transporters) and remote armour repairer as they tarveled through Jita?
e.i. remote tanking
Hmmm, possible money making venture.
Unfortunatly, as I understand it ANY activated module on another ship gives an aggro, so doing this would give you concord aggro and you would most likely loose the ship
True, obviously, I would need to gang them up first.
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Jayson Lee
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Posted - 2006.05.04 14:46:00 -
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Would it be outrages to suggest that when someone suicide ganks a person in high sec space that since a crime has been commited, the cargo of the destroyed ship is taken by concord as "evidence" in the crime. All that a person needs to do to claim it is pick it up at a local office. Am I way out in left field on this?
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Crackhead Bob
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Posted - 2006.05.04 14:57:00 -
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Naw, when Concord comes for you, its to KILL. They don't care about evidence. The evidence is in the fact that you opened up. Anything left behind is just so much flotsam to them. After all, if you had Jovian tech, even Tech2 is just so much dime store merchandise.
And speaking of dime store merchandise... This thread is still alive?!
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.04 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Treborprime
there is no counter point to this.
There's plenty of counters, however trolls tend to ignore our points, and post arrogant one-liners, (like your quote).
Trolls just bring one image to mind...
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
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Beowulf Scheafer
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Posted - 2006.05.04 18:41:00 -
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i think its not more or less an exploit than suicide gankers, its just using a working game mechanics. i like that idea. and then again, why shouldn't people be able to stop gankstars? i would use it tbh...
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