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Marcsen
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Posted - 2006.04.21 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Marcsen on 21/04/2006 15:02:34
Hi,
while i was playing on my empire trader today, i thought about how i could protect myself from the usuual suspects hanging around Jita who scan your cargo and suicide gank you if your freight is worth their effort.
I think a good way would be to just carry around like 1000 bookmarks in your hold along with the items you want to ship. They use no space, and once your cargo window is open, you dont need to load it again on your trip.
Now, when the guy with the passive scanner scans you, he will have to scroll through a loong list to find your valuables. He might eventually give up and say "meh, cant be arsed"
What do you think, is this a legal tactic? Or is it an exploit?
(Leave out the fact that you spoil the suiciders fun here please )
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:00:00 -
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Sounds like a 100% legal tactic to me
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Cpt Placeholder
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Placeholder on 21/04/2006 15:03:42
its obviously an exploit
but who knows you might get away using it... i wouldnt risk it tho, especially not after posting about it
edit-> because youre abusing the slow loading of computers
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Marcsen
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Marcsen on 21/04/2006 15:04:02
Why? I can't see where it says one may not haul bookmarks.
Of course i wouldnt use this in pvp to gain advantage, but just carrying them around can't be a bad thing
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Cpt Placeholder
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Placeholder on 21/04/2006 15:05:39
on a second thought since they limited the items to 1k it should be okay
edit-> i was thinking about really exploiting it like putting 1mil bookmarks
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Nahia Senne
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:08:00 -
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400 bookmarks take ages to load, they should get you safely tru.
and no, it is not an exploit. this actually might be a good idea.
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:09:00 -
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its obviously an exploit
but who knows you might get away using it... i wouldnt risk it tho, especially not after posting about it
Why? It's only an exploit in CCP's eyes if you exploit a bug in the game, not a feature. Being able to fill your cargo hold is not a bug as far as CCP are concerned. In much the same way attacking new players using ships isn't a bug, it's just a use of the time it takes for CONCORD to arrive.
Basically, it's a valid to use something as it isn't intended to be used. It is however invalid to exploit a bug in the software.
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Cpt Placeholder
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:12:00 -
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if you could put enough bookmarks in
how would it be different from dropping cans or mines at gates to lag the enemy ?
except that one is offensive and the other defensive
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Placeholder
if you could put enough bookmarks in
how would it be different from dropping cans or mines at gates to lag the enemy ?
except that one is offensive and the other defensive
Difference I see is he wouldnt be purposely trying to cause lag, hes not knowingly going into a fight with BM's in his cargo to cause lag.
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Bexxly on 21/04/2006 15:23:41
Sounds like a great counter to it imo.
Originally by: Cpt Placeholder
if you could put enough bookmarks in
how would it be different from dropping cans or mines at gates to lag the enemy ?
It's completely differant. It's a great counter to an almost uncounterable activity.
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Cpt Placeholder
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:34:00 -
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hmm tbh i still dont see much of a difference but thats just me
i dont know if you need to prove someones intention to exploit something to classify something as an exploit
well if no mods/devs say its an exploit i guess its cool
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:57:00 -
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since the BMs also create lots of lag, you will face a exploit petition
best is to divide your items into different stacks. 10000 Zydrine in 10 stacks of 1000 zydrine
the enemy will never scan your full potential
Jawas are lousy carebears :(
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:06:00 -
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It's an exploit based on past pirating activities (like m0o, woot) and will most likely remain that way. Just like it was an exploit to leave a can loaded with 1,000-2,000 bookmarks at a gate and watch the person lag out and create an easy gate target, it's going to be illegal to lag out a gate camper's computer in the name of saftey.
Using the game mechanics to deliberatly hamper the preformance of the other person's machine (note: note not experience, just machine) has always been unaccaptable.
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Espen
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:16:00 -
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You don't really lag out if you try to open a can like that, it only takes ages to open it. And I guess the camper could just scroll to the button or see everything at the top?
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:26:00 -
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Did they really repair the client-side hanging? Because I know I still get it when the corp hanger is packed.
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Stellarr
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:27:00 -
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Use cargo containers :) no one is going to blow your ship if all they see is a huge secure container named "junk"
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Xeios
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:35:00 -
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so a note to all the suicide gankers kill someone that is full of bm's? 
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:36:00 -
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Putting tons of bookmarks in your cargo hold is an exploit period because it causes massive lag for everyone in the system.
You can use other items though to do the same thing. Or you can get off your arse and use a tanked indy 
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Cpt Placeholder
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:40:00 -
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so bookmarks create more lag than other items ?
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Stephen Chow
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:49:00 -
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If it's really valuable but doesn't take up much space, why not use a combat ship with a tank set up to make the move? After all, a suicide raven can't suicide another raven.
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jimmys savior
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:59:00 -
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most suicide gankers can't be arsed to attack an elite indy, or a freighter. it requires too many people.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:05:00 -
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stay away from jita
jita ebil 
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OrangeAfroMan
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:21:00 -
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Simply having the BMs in your cargo shouldnt cause lag for anybody except people scanning your cargo.
Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: OrangeAfroMan
Simply having the BMs in your cargo shouldnt cause lag for anybody except people scanning your cargo.
Apparently that isn't true though, for some reason. People have been caught and banned for filling tons of cans with bookmarks to cause lag in a system, I believe.
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Mrsticks
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Posted - 2006.04.21 18:14:00 -
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Or just a thought getting blasted by concord VOIDS the warranty on your ship (not the clone) Bamn insta fix for the whole darn thing.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.04.21 18:22:00 -
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Having bookmarks in your hold cant be an exploit, how are you supposed to copy them then? 
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Tecam Hund
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Posted - 2006.04.21 18:45:00 -
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Why not just fly a transport ship though? It doesn't take all that long to train and industrial 5 is very handy on a trader alt.
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Intel
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:30:00 -
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Using a ship thats easy to destroy in hi sec to transport something valuable is stupidity above and beyond.
Use containers and give them dummy names, Ammo bpc's or whatever.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Intel
Using a ship thats easy to destroy in hi sec to transport something valuable is stupidity above and beyond.
Use containers and give them dummy names, Ammo bpc's or whatever.
Cargo scanners see through containers... 
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Elaron
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:47:00 -
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To be honest, with the conflicting opinions on this topic, your best bet for a definitive answer would be to use "Ask A Question".
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: OrangeAfroMan
Simply having the BMs in your cargo shouldnt cause lag for anybody except people scanning your cargo.
Apparently that isn't true though, for some reason. People have been caught and banned for filling tons of cans with bookmarks to cause lag in a system, I believe.
Is putting 25 bubbles on a gate an exploit?
It serves the same purpose as the BM's so I dno..
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.04.22 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: OrangeAfroMan
Simply having the BMs in your cargo shouldnt cause lag for anybody except people scanning your cargo.
Apparently that isn't true though, for some reason. People have been caught and banned for filling tons of cans with bookmarks to cause lag in a system, I believe.
Is putting 25 bubbles on a gate an exploit?
It serves the same purpose as the BM's so I dno..
the bubbels are meant to stop people, BMs just cause lag
Jawas are lousy carebears :(
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.22 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Placeholder
Edited by: Cpt Placeholder on 21/04/2006 15:03:42
its obviously an exploit
but who knows you might get away using it... i wouldnt risk it tho, especially not after posting about it
edit-> because youre abusing the slow loading of computers
That's like saying it's an exploit to fight in blobs because your omgwtflynchmob numbers will lag the hell out of others.
Originally by: Dark Shikari
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Andargor theWise
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Posted - 2006.04.22 02:32:00 -
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If you take 1K trit, and split it into 1000 units of 1 trit, does that cause lag, or just a long list in the scan result?
If a lot of people take to this, it might still give the gankers pause, since they have to decide quickly whether a lot of BMs/other items mask something of value, or a 500K ISK module that is "precious" to the owner...
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Nukeitall
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Posted - 2006.04.22 03:29:00 -
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SPOILER: Use a freighter. They don't drop dink, and cant get suicided unless someone *really* tries.
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dailyhazard
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Posted - 2006.04.22 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: jimmys savior
most suicide gankers can't be arsed to attack an elite indy, or a freighter. it requires too many people.
you can suicide gank a elite indy with 1 person its been done
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Twilight Moon
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Posted - 2006.04.22 08:37:00 -
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I'd have thought suicide gankers are exploiting, as the majority of them are using ALTS on a trail account, to bypass getting sec ****ed on their main account.
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2006.04.22 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Eviljohn on 22/04/2006 09:43:23
I dont think a scanner can tell if a bpc is used, original or has runs left so next time ppl build a faction bs or something leave a afk hauler at the gate with the used bpc in it, he ganks it and gets nothing apart from a blown up bs 
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stingy CEO
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Posted - 2006.04.22 10:28:00 -
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two words ; plastic wrap.
Originally by: santa says
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Rina Shanu
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Posted - 2006.04.22 10:41:00 -
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1. use the BMs to shorten your travel and be safe. If you insta in empire from gate to gate or anywhere else for the matter they will never get you.
2. BMs cause more lag thyan other items, yes. they were not intented as a game feature from the start. it says so somewhere on there forums.
3. you can use other items to get the same result: lots of crap,,,,,
4. If I would see someone with lots of BMs, Skill books in the cargo and would be a suicide ganker, I'd do it. (insure pays quite well for T1)
Take into consideration that we have t2 transport ships, you can use those, etc. there are means of flying safer from gankage in empire.
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Jilly Serkov
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Posted - 2006.04.22 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Eviljohn
Edited by: Eviljohn on 22/04/2006 09:43:23
I dont think a scanner can tell if a bpc is used, original or has runs left so next time ppl build a faction bs or something leave a afk hauler at the gate with the used bpc in it, he ganks it and gets nothing apart from a blown up bs
I thought "used" BPC that reached a ship count of 0 disappeared now. If the BPC has a ship count of 1 or higher its worth having 
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2006.04.22 11:46:00 -
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i think the cargo scanner just tells u there a bp in the ship and what it makes not if it has runs or an original unless its been changed
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Turkantho
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Posted - 2006.04.22 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Turkantho on 22/04/2006 15:34:40
Originally by: stingy CEO
two words ; plastic wrap.
you cant scan through those ?
eg make a courier mission for your own corp and do it yourself ?
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Lord Waxduck
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Posted - 2006.04.22 16:03:00 -
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That sound ebil to me cos if it takes as long to open as a can with bookmarks in it he might not even get a scan done before you dock .. lol
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Andargor theWise
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Posted - 2006.04.22 16:56:00 -
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While in the past this might have been the case, plastic warp, secure containers, etc., do not seem to hide your cargo any more.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.22 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mrsticks
Or just a thought getting blasted by concord VOIDS the warranty on your ship (not the clone) Bamn insta fix for the whole darn thing.
Ships dont have a warranty
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.04.23 06:55:00 -
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lol and instantly the whiners come out to cry exploit, when in-highsec- ganking is not?
suck it up babys
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Mrsticks
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Posted - 2006.04.23 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Mrsticks
Or just a thought getting blasted by concord VOIDS the warranty on your ship (not the clone) Bamn insta fix for the whole darn thing.
Ships dont have a warranty
Im sorry Insurance
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Kay Thxbye
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Posted - 2006.04.23 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kay Thxbye on 23/04/2006 10:03:32
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Putting tons of bookmarks in your cargo hold is an exploit period because it causes massive lag for everyone in the system.
You can use other items though to do the same thing. Or you can get off your arse and use a tanked indy
I'd call it a border line exploit.
But I don't believe that you lag out everyone in the system, because there is no reason, why that should happen.
As long as the bookmarks aren't accessed, there is no server load.
When someone does a scan, then the bms are accessed in the database of course, but there should be no big difference to opening my cargo for the first time myself. ( Later accesses are cached, to it's faster. )
I think it's a rumor that cans of bookmarks cause lag, just because they are there, although it's a common whine.
As long as nobody opens the can, these bms are just data base entries that are not accessed and so they don't cause any server load at all and when someone opens it, it's not much different to someone opening his full hangar on a station.
The delay annoying for the one, who opens it, but if only one guy does it, it shouldn't affect the other players at all.
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ArtemisEntreri
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Posted - 2006.04.23 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
lol and instantly the whiners come out to cry exploit, when in-highsec- ganking is not?
suck it up babys
it's no exploit, it's a legitimate strategy
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Marlenus
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Posted - 2006.04.24 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Stellarr
Use cargo containers :) no one is going to blow your ship if all they see is a huge secure container named "junk"
Whoops -- you just made me realize I have a small secure container named "Precious Metals" where I keep loose bits of megacyte and such that I get from processing loot.
I guess I better rename that bad boy before stuffing it in the hold of my Badger, eh?
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Farjung
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Posted - 2006.04.24 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Eviljohn
i think the cargo scanner just tells u there a bp in the ship and what it makes not if it has runs or an original unless its been changed
Now if your bpc has no runs left at the end of the manufacturing process, the factory eats it. A few 0 run faction ship bpcs that were lying around in my hangar disappeared overnight, with RMR I think.
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2006.04.24 05:04:00 -
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Edited by: w0rmy on 24/04/2006 05:09:06
Originally by: Nafri
best is to divide your items into different stacks. 10000 Zydrine in 10 stacks of 1000 zydrine
But you then increase their chance of getting loot.
This way, theres no chance all zydrine will be popped, with one stack theres the chance they get nothing.
EDIT: Oh and I cant see how it couldnt be an exploit. As you are doing it with full knowledge that you will induce lag.
Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.04.24 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Edited by: w0rmy on 24/04/2006 05:09:06
Originally by: Nafri
best is to divide your items into different stacks. 10000 Zydrine in 10 stacks of 1000 zydrine
But you then increase their chance of getting loot.
This way, theres no chance all zydrine will be popped, with one stack theres the chance they get nothing.
EDIT: Oh and I cant see how it couldnt be an exploit. As you are doing it with full knowledge that you will induce lag.
Stacks dont cause lag, except there are way more than 100 of them. The only thing thy cause is that you cant see the full cargohold at once, cause the cargo scanner always show only a few items in the cargo hold.
BMs create way more lag than normal items (just open a ship with 100 BMs and compare it to a ship with 100 normal items)
You can also transport lot of junk with you, also protects you from most gankers
Jawas are lousy carebears :(
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I337 n00b
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Posted - 2006.04.24 11:59:00 -
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Ganking in high security systems defies the entire point of the .5+ security systems, it is not fair to the weaker pilots and gives the game a bad reputation, as it would show you will not be able to travel safely anywhere, this one person i know got blown up and the other person (the sucide dude) never got blown up by concord... this isn't fair and should be banned or severly punished.
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:09:00 -
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exploit if done with trial account. Because security was meant to be kept.
Kestrel suicide thing was common back when u used to be able to use Cruise/torp launchers on them then nobody did it for a while. Then cant remember when about a year ago or somethin me my corp created a ton of minimuffinmen kestrel suicide squads but because we deleted the chars even though they where on paid accounts was considered exploit and CCP said to stop. I beleieve rule is u must keep the char like 1month if u ruin is sec before delteing if its on main account and if its on trial its auto considered exploit.
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Jaos Nekri
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Posted - 2006.04.25 18:37:00 -
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The only real issue I have with highsec gankers, as a carebear hauler, is that there are very few legitimate ways to protect against them.
If they can survive long enough to kill you before being ganked by concord, they can usually scan and pop an industrial long before it aligns to warp, so instas are pretty much worthless. The sec hits aren't high enough that a few hours popping rats won't fix it, and the risk involved is next to nothing for the gankers.
As for the BM idea, as long as you aren't purposefully trying to lag them out, but instead relying on the time it takes for them to peruse a list of 2-300 items, you should be good to go. If you're concerned about using BM's being an exploit, use a mix of ammo and cheap minerals instead.
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Lutien
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Posted - 2006.04.26 08:54:00 -
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best tactic is tank your indy, i fly a crane with a med shield extender and a photon scater and a m shield booster, with the speed of that ship they may consider themself luky if the get a look at your cargo. Or use bm yourshelf to get yourshelf through jita.
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Blakkon Darkthorn
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Posted - 2006.04.26 19:09:00 -
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Seems simple enough, If your sec status drops to a certain point (say less than -2) your newb corp throws you out, or into a deccable newb misfit corp.
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I337 n00b
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Posted - 2006.05.03 13:05:00 -
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EVERYONe START GANKING!!!
apparently its legal.......go blow some ships up this game is getting ridiculous!!
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Treborprime
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Posted - 2006.05.03 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Originally by: Gonada
lol and instantly the whiners come out to cry exploit, when in-highsec- ganking is not?
suck it up babys
it's no exploit, it's a legitimate strategy
no its not you are exploiting game mechanics to get around preset penalties for attacking in High Security space.
The risk a hauler takes is 1000's times more higher than a suicide ganker. The ganker takes no risk at all whatsoever. Security hits and the loss of a small ship mean nothing. The loss of a hauler and its cargo is infinitely more devasting.
Its all about Risk vs Reward and the equation MUST be balanced. In this regard both sides of the ball the equation is drastically unbalanced. The hauler assumes way to much risk and the suicide runner takes absolutely none.
there is no counter point to this.
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.05.03 15:47:00 -
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no its not you are exploiting game mechanics to get around preset penalties for attacking in High Security space.
This depends what you mean by exploit. By your definition, I can't use warp scramblers because it would be exploiting a game mechanic (using the warp scrambler) in order to gain an advantage. Same with ECM, webbers, my weapons, the scanner, everything else.
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there is no counter point to this.
You can just feel the arrogance flowing out of this statement.
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Auman
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Posted - 2006.05.03 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Treborprime
Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Originally by: Gonada
lol and instantly the whiners come out to cry exploit, when in-highsec- ganking is not?
suck it up babys
it's no exploit, it's a legitimate strategy
no its not you are exploiting game mechanics to get around preset penalties for attacking in High Security space.
No, the penelty for attacking in high sec space is that the attacker will/must lose their ship, CCP have made this clear before. No place in EVE is 100% safe... except the inside of a station i guess
In regards to BM's doing anything to deliberately lag out other players is going to get you in trouble whether you knew it would do it or not. I'd stay away from tactics like that if it was me, there are plenty of other options.
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.05.03 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: OrangeAfroMan
Simply having the BMs in your cargo shouldnt cause lag for anybody except people scanning your cargo.
Apparently that isn't true though, for some reason. People have been caught and banned for filling tons of cans with bookmarks to cause lag in a system, I believe.
This sounds like urban legend to me. Maybe the problem was them dropping gazillions of cans and not their content?
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Draquin
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Posted - 2006.05.03 16:19:00 -
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Guys theirs a simple solution
Step 1 take a pile of crap items and escro it to yourself, when it drops its in shrink wrap
take PBCs and do the same
load up one or the other and fly around in it in a disposable ship or shuttle useing a no skill alt that will fly around from gate to gate on autopilot while you shower eat, have more fun with your significant other than the law will allow, sleep or whatever it is you do when your not actualy playing. if they scan and gank they get crapola for the effort and your out some junk and a cheep ship while they are out the ships it cost them to do it.
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Prestis
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Posted - 2006.05.03 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Prestis on 03/05/2006 17:02:34
Carrying around thousands of bookmarks in your hold kinda suggests you've got something to hide. Something worth hiding.
There'll be some pirates who'd go for it anyway.
And bookmarks don't cause lag just by existing or being looked at, it's the copying that kills the system.
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MILL17331H 2190TEP
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Posted - 2006.05.03 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: MILL17331H 2190TEP on 03/05/2006 18:14:24
Would people in Jita pay for a Logistics ship to supply them with remote shields (shield transporters) and remote armour repairer as they tarveled through Jita?
e.i. remote tanking
Hmmm, possible money making venture.
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Jahah Smith
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Posted - 2006.05.04 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: MILL17331H 2190TEP
Edited by: MILL17331H 2190TEP on 03/05/2006 18:14:24
Would people in Jita pay for a Logistics ship to supply them with remote shields (shield transporters) and remote armour repairer as they tarveled through Jita?
e.i. remote tanking
Hmmm, possible money making venture.
Unfortunatly, as I understand it ANY activated module on another ship gives an aggro, so doing this would give you concord aggro and you would most likely loose the ship
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Ima Hattoi
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Posted - 2006.05.04 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shimpu
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: OrangeAfroMan
Simply having the BMs in your cargo shouldnt cause lag for anybody except people scanning your cargo.
Apparently that isn't true though, for some reason. People have been caught and banned for filling tons of cans with bookmarks to cause lag in a system, I believe.
This sounds like urban legend to me. Maybe the problem was them dropping gazillions of cans and not their content?
that would explain why the 1 or 2 min (cant remember witch now) waiting time before u can jetison a new can is there ..
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MILL17331H 2190TEP
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Posted - 2006.05.04 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jahah Smith
Originally by: MILL17331H 2190TEP
Edited by: MILL17331H 2190TEP on 03/05/2006 18:14:24
Would people in Jita pay for a Logistics ship to supply them with remote shields (shield transporters) and remote armour repairer as they tarveled through Jita?
e.i. remote tanking
Hmmm, possible money making venture.
Unfortunatly, as I understand it ANY activated module on another ship gives an aggro, so doing this would give you concord aggro and you would most likely loose the ship
True, obviously, I would need to gang them up first.
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Jayson Lee
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Posted - 2006.05.04 14:46:00 -
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Would it be outrages to suggest that when someone suicide ganks a person in high sec space that since a crime has been commited, the cargo of the destroyed ship is taken by concord as "evidence" in the crime. All that a person needs to do to claim it is pick it up at a local office. Am I way out in left field on this?
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Crackhead Bob
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Posted - 2006.05.04 14:57:00 -
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Naw, when Concord comes for you, its to KILL. They don't care about evidence. The evidence is in the fact that you opened up. Anything left behind is just so much flotsam to them. After all, if you had Jovian tech, even Tech2 is just so much dime store merchandise.
And speaking of dime store merchandise... This thread is still alive?!
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.04 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Treborprime
there is no counter point to this.
There's plenty of counters, however trolls tend to ignore our points, and post arrogant one-liners, (like your quote).
Trolls just bring one image to mind...
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
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Beowulf Scheafer
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Posted - 2006.05.04 18:41:00 -
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i think its not more or less an exploit than suicide gankers, its just using a working game mechanics. i like that idea. and then again, why shouldn't people be able to stop gankstars? i would use it tbh...
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