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skippey	Posted - 2006.04.24 13:27:00 - [61] Personaly I thank Bren Kasir for the reply, it's nice to hear some reasons for these hostilities. Hopefuly we'll be hearing from coalition officials soon. All that follows in this post are personal oppinions. But what I don't understand is that these issues are being resolved with gunfire. Surely this could have been talked over and any reported offences taken care of? Our corp hasn't been part of FLA for very long, but as far as I know FLA has delt with problems it has been aware of with precision to the best of it's capabilities, working towards a stable industrious environment. It is true that chages take time with big organisations and it's something we all have to live with. This should have escpecialy been the case with the coalition, a big group just starting out can't expect things to happen and go right over night. For example a thing as simple as the ref tax was 15% for a long time instead of the more reasonable 5%. I simply can not belive that this couldn't have been resolved through diplomacy. The scale of actions against FLA seem to hint that this has been in planing for some time. Be it an hour, day or a week, shouldn't that time have been spent in talks? The coalition allready proved itself a strong defence force when the pirates got their a*ses handed bag to them after IRON left, and a good starting point to build from. Not a good poit to start shooting eachother. In my view all this attack has accomplished, is made deklein open for another run by the pirates, and compromised the credibility and reliability of the coalition. We're all sore about the whole affair, but couldn't we still open negotiations and try to resolve this peasefully, before others try to take deklein?
Selena 001	Posted - 2006.04.24 13:46:00 - [62] Theres 3 possible causes for this: 1 - NFC said one thing, but did another. 2 - Terrible planning led to a break down in communication, and everything went **** up. 3 - FLA broke some little rule that AUS (not NFC as an alliance) had set, and aparently adjusted when the situation suited them. It's hard to imagine that all this was aparently over some stupid refining station 'Red-tape' tbh. ___________ Dont mind me, I'm Forum-Whoring cause I dont have anything better to do with my life...
Kalened	Posted - 2006.04.24 14:04:00 - [63] Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 14:08:39 Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 14:06:46 Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 14:06:25 Originally by: Selena 001 Edited by: Selena 001 on 24/04/2006 13:55:35 Theres 3 possible causes for this: 1 - NFC said one thing, but did another. 2 - Terrible planning led to a break down in communication, and everything went **** up. 3 - FLA broke some little rule that AUS (not NFC as an alliance) had set, and aparently adjusted when the situation suited them. It's hard to imagine that all this was aparently over some stupid refining station 'Red-tape' tbh. Edit: I'd also like to add, that if indeed all the other stations in Dek were currently under the NFC holdings corp, it would hold credibility for the NFC (meaning that the FLA were deliberatly not giving up the CZD station)... as it stands, not a single station in Dek has changed hands to the Holding corp. ^ The above is also my personal opinion ^ yes stations have started the transition to NFC holding corp. VFK is already held by it. Clearly you're biased. Sure this is all NFC's fault.. its all AUS's fault and the only reason anyone sides with us is because we are manipulative liars. Whatever makes you sleep well. Why do you refuse to give up CZD if you're so well intended? And i'm really loving this ploy of "oh we're so innocent why would we do anything bad.. we dont want to fight we want peace." Sure some people may buy it but i see a power grab. You hoped that NFC wouldn't have a backbone and you could slip your little alliance in under our noses and lay claim to deklein. Well thats not going to happen. CZD is ours and it's always been ours. Now i really have to concentrate on not posting here anymore LOL i hate you for making me do it!
TheBelgarion	Posted - 2006.04.24 14:17:00 - [64] Originally by: Bren Kasir Speaking on behalf of the Nexus Alliance: Here are the charges I will lay at the door of FLA and our reasons for taking part in this action. NFC has simple but definite rules regarding the placing of Player Owned Structures in the Deklein region, and the claiming of sovereignty therein. FLA have flouted these rules, claiming sovereignty over the constellation including CZD which is a blatant preparation for the implementation in Kali of sovereignty-based defenses and bonuses. As for the claim that AUS hold the keys to the stations in Deklein: this is not true. Currently AUS Corp hold docking rights of the JU-OWQ station. The NFC Holding corp holds docking rights for the VFK-IV station. Both of these stations are open to all Deklein Residents who have agreed to operate within the guidelines set by NFC. The station in CZD is currently under FLA control and is now off limits to all pilots from other alliances and corporations in the Deklein area. We of the NFC refuse to allow FLA to set their own rules when they agreed to abide by those set by the NFC to which they agreed at the time of creation. We refuse to allow Deklein to be split into two halves. Bren Kasir The Nexus Alliance ROTFLMAO do u believe that **** u are talking about !? docking right to CZD has been reseted 2 DAYS AFTER AUS simply kicked all of FLA from 3JN station WITHOUT any comments in Advance ... <3 And about that Souvereinity and Kali thing .. LOL again ... wonder there u get ur informations from that Kali comes out any soon ... and one wonders if u just kept out 3JN station from ur counting of the Stations of Dek by accident or what!? Plz get someone to tell you the whole Story be4 talking nonsense ... --------------------------------------------------------- a Challenge System for Eve
Tiree	Posted - 2006.04.24 14:17:00 - [65] Can't we atleast arrange a ceasefire and take some time to try the diplomatic solution? Selena IIRC one or two stations were indeed already under NFC control, but I believe 3JN/AUS station as well as CZD/FLA station were still in the process of coming under NFC control. Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 12:54:05 This is the one comment i'll make on this topic. Aus Corp are the executors of the NFC. Deklein is claimed by the NFC. FLA has had nothing to say but "we want peace we want peace." So if they want peace why don't they hand over CZD to the NFC holding corp as it should be. As it stands AUS Corp and Raaki are the leaders of the region. They have the backing of the important people and that alone should tell you why its happening. It's not as much of an issue as FLA wants to make it out. It's FLA's greed that lead to this. If they really want whats best for deklein they should hand over the territory they've claimed and work on securing traveling rights to remove their materials from the region. btw i have no idea what Raaki's official position is. These are my own thoughts. IIRC AUS corp were only a part of the whole leadership of NFC, with FLA aswell as others alliances and corps as equals. AUS Corp and Raaki were never supposed to be the only leaders of the region. As I see it now is you used fear of FLA taking over as a reason to take over yourself... But can't we just put all this behind us and start again and this time do it right?
ShyLion	Posted - 2006.04.24 14:19:00 - [66] Originally by: Kalened And i'm really loving this ploy of "oh we're so innocent why would we do anything bad.. we dont want to fight we want peace." Sure some people may buy it but i see a power grab. You hoped that NFC wouldn't have a backbone and you could slip your little alliance in under our noses and lay claim to deklein. Well thats not going to happen. CZD is ours and it's always been ours. Now i really have to concentrate on not posting here anymore LOL i hate you for making me do it! How did we get it if it was yours? Yours - AUS - oh oh do we see a continued trend... Oh, and FLA taking over DEKLEIN? How did the EASTER BUNNY treat you? Be good cause SANTA is coming too.... = ) . What is the difference between genius and stupidity? Genius has limits. - Albert Einstein.
Grissom	Posted - 2006.04.24 14:23:00 - [67] Is far as I know CZD station was going to be turned over to NFC Holding corp, but AUS reset all FLA docking and a few hours later opened fire on a FLA member without warning. I have no idea why AUS didnt ask when station in CZD was gonna be handed over, as this would have save months of hard work on both sides from be flush stright down the toilet _______________________
TheBelgarion	Posted - 2006.04.24 14:26:00 - [68] Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 14:08:39 yes stations have started the transition to NFC holding corp. VFK is already held by it. Clearly you're biased. Sure this is all NFC's fault.. its all AUS's fault and the only reason anyone sides with us is because we are manipulative liars. Whatever makes you sleep well. Why do you refuse to give up CZD if you're so well intended? And i'm really loving this ploy of "oh we're so innocent why would we do anything bad.. we dont want to fight we want peace." Sure some people may buy it but i see a power grab. You hoped that NFC wouldn't have a backbone and you could slip your little alliance in under our noses and lay claim to deklein. Well thats not going to happen. CZD is ours and it's always been ours. Now i really have to concentrate on not posting here anymore LOL i hate you for making me do it! Can u explain that that has to do with kicking out FLA from 3jn WITHOUT Notice and start hostile acts !? I would understand if brave AUS had given up all to NFC and 2 weeks diplomatic would have reached nothing regarding CZD .. but blame me maybe i missed 2 weeks in my history book --------------------------------------------------------- a Challenge System for Eve
Kalened	Posted - 2006.04.24 14:46:00 - [69] Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 14:51:39 Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 14:48:41 Originally by: TheBelgarion Edited by: TheBelgarion on 24/04/2006 14:39:15 Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 14:08:39 yes stations have started the transition to NFC holding corp. VFK is already held by it. Clearly you're biased. Sure this is all NFC's fault.. its all AUS's fault and the only reason anyone sides with us is because we are manipulative liars. Whatever makes you sleep well. Why do you refuse to give up CZD if you're so well intended? And i'm really loving this ploy of "oh we're so innocent why would we do anything bad.. we dont want to fight we want peace." Sure some people may buy it but i see a power grab. You hoped that NFC wouldn't have a backbone and you could slip your little alliance in under our noses and lay claim to deklein. Well thats not going to happen. CZD is ours and it's always been ours. Now i really have to concentrate on not posting here anymore LOL i hate you for making me do it! Can u explain that that has to do with kicking out FLA from 3jn WITHOUT Notice and start hostile acts !? I would understand if brave AUS had given up all to NFC and 2 weeks diplomatic would have reached nothing regarding CZD .. but blame me maybe i missed 2 weeks in my history book This is my personal opinion and as such I do not represent my corp or alliance in this Look i'm no politician. I'm not even supposed to be posting here but soemones gotta let people know that FLA isn't being honest and this ploy of theirs as the innocent ones isnt playing for everyone. Be lucky i'm not in charge. My politics usually come by way of the gun. Man i miss buddrow sometimes LOL I guess when and if NFC makes a statement you'll know the official stance. Personally if you want to take down your pos's and lose sovereignty in deklein and give nfc holding corp czd i don't see why you couldnt get a free pass to torrinos without any further losses. I'm sure after some communication and time to cool down at that point you'd be welcomed back to dek as a resident. Raaki is dutch (i think) thats why he's cranky all the time.. but he is fair. ALSO let me add i don't personally have ill will towards any member of FLA. Even if it was a power grab i can see your reasonings. But i fly under a banner and i shoot what i'm told. I'm just a happy nobody/warrior.
Farious Planar	Posted - 2006.04.24 14:58:00 - [70] So, there's a problem with putting up POS equipment and people show up with four dreads on your doorsteep, but they refuse to talk about it? Man, and I thought I had it tough if when I broke the rules... 'Follow the rules to the letter or die.'? I don't think I'd put that line in a corp agreement.
Mahapajapati	Posted - 2006.04.24 14:59:00 - [71] Originally by: Kalened I guess when and if NFC makes a statement you'll know the official stance. I guess the plan being put in motion now by blazerswoman and kyoshi to jump a load of dreads into czd and take the station before installing sparta alliance in it will be a clear enough statement by the nfc.
Kaeten	Posted - 2006.04.24 15:01:00 - [72] So I take it FLA are returning to empire?
Cold Heart	Posted - 2006.04.24 15:12:00 - [73] I might, but I might need directions, but I heard it was via Delve :P
Quilty	Posted - 2006.04.24 15:18:00 - [74] FLA was asked to claim sov of CZD at the formation of NFC.It was a fast moving situation at the time with attacks in Deklein for control of the region from several alliances on the announcement of IRON's departure,it was decided by the NFC with agreement from all founding alliances that securing the stations should happen as soon as was possible and in the case of CZD the task was given to FLA as they already had one IRON approved pos in the area so claiming sov would take much less time. As for your claim of all this being a Kali preperation by FLA,the above partially answered how it came to pass that FLA got the station.It was agreed by NFC on its formation that ALL DEKLEIN STATIONS would transfer to a corp which was to be set up for this purpose,this entity which was later created was called NFC holdings,it was made of 5 members which came from the founding Alliances. As for the other 3 stations Aus corp controls them, ju- and 3jn in there own name and VFK through the NFC holdings corp as somehow Aus got the executive position within NFC holdings corp, so allowing them alone to kick the other Alliances from VFK docking rights etc,this station was originally on the formation of NFC taken by D-S-L.Once NFC holdings corp was formed and Aus had secured the executive role on the aforementioned holding corp,Aus moved swiftly to bring VFK station into the AUS controlled family of now 3 stations.This was prob viewed by them as a good deed as the income from VFK was to go towards capital ship purchase etc on behalf of NFC. But some of us with a longer memory remembered that all 4 stations were supposed to be transfered to the holding corp and income from these stations to be spent on whatever NFC needed and some being given to the alliances. To cut a very long very boring story short AUS started muttering about FLA refiners at a POS, FLA said ok lets put the ju-, czd, 3jn, stations under the NFC banner which would allow all of us in Deklein to benefit.Well think about the expression on Aus faces and sheer terror at the idea that what had been agreed at NFC inception was about to happen,Aus were going to lose there money making machine and may actually have to undock and ummmmm work for a living,perish the thought.It was agreed at an NFC meeting that the transfer of stations would be on the agenda 14 days after that meeting.Immediately after that meeting the plotting to remove FLA from dek began, tick tock the clock sped by, and as the every day passed AUS became more desperate to ensure they held on to there revenue from the stations and the rumours they spread became more unreal.
Kremnican	Posted - 2006.04.24 15:27:00 - [75] Originally by: Bren Kasir NFC has simple but definite rules regarding the placing of Player Owned Structures in the Deklein region, and the claiming of sovereignty therein. FLA have flouted these rules, claiming sovereignty over the constellation including CZD which is a blatant preparation for the implementation in Kali of sovereignty-based defenses and bonuses. AFAIK CZD station was taken down by combined forces of FLA and others just hours after taking over the JU station two weeks or so ago. At that time the idea of NFC Holding corp was just forming up. FLA didn't break any rule. Quote: As for the claim that AUS hold the keys to the stations in Deklein: this is not true. Currently AUS Corp hold docking rights of the JU-OWQ station. The NFC Holding corp holds docking rights for the VFK-IV station. Both of these stations are open to all Deklein Residents who have agreed to operate within the guidelines set by NFC. Right. AUS is in control of JU and 3JN stations (which are the only ones that have the refining capability in Deklein). NFC Holdings INC is not part of NFC. It has four members ATM (one of the FLA alts has been kicked out of the corp) and CEO is "Jangos ALT", who was a member of AUS twice in his short life. Quote: The station in CZD is currently under FLA control and is now off limits to all pilots from other alliances and corporations in the Deklein area. Now yes. Was not so till about 20:00 EVE time Sunday, when an NFC gang of aprox. 80 preparing to move to CZD shot one of FLA members again. FLA members were denied access at least 24 hours sooner. Quote: We of the NFC refuse to allow FLA to set their own rules when they agreed to abide by those set by the NFC to which they agreed at the time of creation. We refuse to allow Deklein to be split into two halves. FLA does not wish to split Deklein in half. That was never our intention. The rules did evolve too, they're not the same as they were two weeks ago. While we do have different opinions about some of them, we did our best to comply and AFAIK we managed to comply by Saturday, just before the hell broke out. Please stop hiding behing "FLA did break rules" and post the rules. IMO FLA didn't break any of "simple but definite rules" that was agreed on and it's just an excuse to appologise your hostile actions.
Montaire	Posted - 2006.04.24 16:12:00 - [76] As much as I hate saying it , AUS doesn't want to negotiate, vocal elements in AUS just want to kill. its the equivelent of a bare chested cave man banging his chest and saying 'ugh! this my cave, you go' There are what can only be termd 'radical' elements that will break any cease fire, that are too ignorant to know any better and refuse to see reason. Untill I'm removed (which will be about 2 mins after a director reads this) I will contine to advocate a diplomatic , intelligent resolution to this. **not an official aus or nfc communication *
Nick Parker	Posted - 2006.04.24 16:16:00 - [77] Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 14:08:39 Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 14:06:46 Edited by: Kalened on 24/04/2006 14:06:25 It's hard to imagine that all this was aparently over some stupid refining station 'Red-tape' tbh. Edit: I'd also like to add, that if indeed all the other stations in Dek were currently under the NFC holdings corp, it would hold credibility for the NFC (meaning that the FLA were deliberatly not giving up the CZD station)... as it stands, not a single station in Dek has changed hands to the Holding corp. ^ The above is also my personal opinion ^ yes stations have started the transition to NFC holding corp. VFK is already held by it. Clearly you're biased. Sure this is all NFC's fault.. its all AUS's fault and the only reason anyone sides with us is because we are manipulative liars. Whatever makes you sleep well. Why do you refuse to give up CZD if you're so well intended? And i'm really loving this ploy of "oh we're so innocent why would we do anything bad.. we dont want to fight we want peace." Sure some people may buy it but i see a power grab. You hoped that NFC wouldn't have a backbone and you could slip your little alliance in under our noses and lay claim to deklein. Well thats not going to happen. CZD is ours and it's always been ours. Now i really have to concentrate on not posting here anymore LOL i hate you for making me do it! OK A few points here, 1st, Look up the employment history of the current CEO of the NFC at the current time of this posting. Unless it has been changed within the past 12 hours, it's a EX AUS guy, wether a ALT or a Active member. Seems kinda odd to me. Also, if we were going to "Sneak our Little Alliance in hunder our noses and lay claim to Deklein" Don't you think we would have brought up a FLeet the DAY IRON left and disposed of anyone who stood against us? Did we? No, We helped form the NFC and tried our best to secure the region, keeping things fair and free for all residents. Lastly, The Line in your post "CZD is ours and it's always been ours." Sort of shows AUS corps intentions. It's not the NFC's, even though you have that under your name, It's "ours" blantantly referring to your Corp. Nick Parker FLACommander
Ms YipMan	Posted - 2006.04.24 16:26:00 - [78] Edited by: Ms YipMan on 24/04/2006 16:32:30 I've read all the posts. WoW, how's everyone's finger? I believe this is the doing of ACSN. I believe they have breached the inner workings of NFC and this is the result. I know for a fact, that certain corp(s) are friendly toward ACSN, and they are members of the NFC. I think NFC needs to do some inventory. Collect. Collectively, and stop the he said she said. I think this is BS, all of it, what can we destroy type sh**. (and I don't mean BS as in Battleships). I think this is a lot of misinformation and lies that have been fed to us (both sides). Like little children sitting at a camp fire while the "Wise" men tell us stories of David and Goliath. NFC I'm sorry I'm nobody, but someone is setting you up and it ain't the FLA. Sparta, I remember flying by you guys like we were entering a private golf club up in Dek. some guy shouted out a wave. I gave a quick node checkin' for hostiles. Arrow you guys are cool cats as well running missions with ut most precision, took down a Pos and glory was had. NFC? Aus Corp? Rubbish. All the mass confusion, 2 weeks from now if things go the way they are...BoB's movin in. You've been warned. Hope you take what I said with a grain of salt. Get tight and let's get to buisness. In no way do I represent anyone, just me.
Dragonmorph	Posted - 2006.04.24 16:39:00 - [79] When the NFC was set up, it was agreed that FLA could hold CZD station for a month to help stabalise our membership in the region. It was also agreed that after that month, all stations were to be handed over to the holding corp to be managed for the benefit of all in the coalition. At that time, the holding corp was not controlled by AUS Hey presto, the time came for Aus to hand over the stations they controlled, (after eventually setting the refining tax from 15% to 5% two weeks after being told to do so by the leadership, but still charging 20 mil/month in office rents but making 15 mil rebates to only certain corps) The time for handover was the weekend just gone. Instead of complying, we find ourselves in a state of civil war with Aus controlling 3 stations after also taking control of the holding corp through subterfuge and lies. We didn't think the 48 hour rule was being strictly enforced because AUS also has a number of POS's within the no POS zones and were making no attempt themselves to rectify that. I would also like to ask at this point, WHY is AUS allowing OSS to continue bookmarking the region? Perhaps because they know they will need help if they do ever manage to get FLA to leave? The FLA has no doubt that AUS will be very hard to remove. After all, it's hard to kill an enemy that largely remains docked safely in a station while practicing their masterful puppetry skills
juduzz	Posted - 2006.04.24 16:45:00 - [80] arh Goood ol AUS corp :P GL FLA hope ya win this one, although still gonna kill ya mach menace :P
Nickel Deuce	Posted - 2006.04.24 18:19:00 - [81] And I thought NSA was bad.. good lord. - - - - - - - - Encoded with ROT26 ù circumvention will be prosecuted!
Divitys	Posted - 2006.04.24 18:31:00 - [82] I wonder why so many good alliances and corporations (like Opus, Sparta, Arrow & Warped Mining) listen and obey AUS' dictatorial leadership. Everyone else in "NFC" has to do the dirty job, they don't win anything when trying to drive us out of Deklein while AUS gets everything and soon starts to rip them off too. I'm waiting for the rest 3 alliances to realize that they've been used by AUS for their own sole purpose. All I can do is to hope they don't get backstabbed as badly as FLA... Or maybe it's just that Raaki happens to be Dutch... too much weed you know.
Kalened	Posted - 2006.04.24 18:58:00 - [83] Originally by: Divitys I wonder why so many good alliances and corporations (like Opus, Sparta, Arrow & Warped Mining) listen and obey AUS' dictatorial leadership. Well they don't listen and obey. They work with us to reach like minded goals. AUS Corp has never ripped anyone off, nor was FLA backstabbed in any way. You may choose to believe the tripe they spew "we're innocent" "we want peace" but they had commitments to live up to and they failed.
Divitys	Posted - 2006.04.24 19:21:00 - [84] Originally by: Kalened Well they don't listen and obey. They work with us to reach like minded goals. AUS Corp has never ripped anyone off, nor was FLA backstabbed in any way. You may choose to believe the tripe they spew "we're innocent" "we want peace" but they had commitments to live up to and they failed. So you're just another mindless zombie that has been brainwashed... so sad.
Ather Ialeas	Posted - 2006.04.24 19:33:00 - [85] Originally by: Kalened Well they don't listen and obey. They work with us to reach like minded goals. AUS Corp has never ripped anyone off, nor was FLA backstabbed in any way. You may choose to believe the tripe they spew "we're innocent" "we want peace" but they had commitments to live up to and they failed. I was supposed to stay away from this thread but whatever, I think you need a little reminder: Show everyone the proof. Really, show everyone at least anything, may it be a screenshot of one of FLA's accused 20+ POSses producing those 300 battleships per day in their ship assembly arrays - OH WAIT, didn't you say it was actually REFINING ARRAYS which were not allowed at POSses - NO WAIT, it was INTENSIVE REFINING ARRAYS. All these have been claimed to be the reason for the hostility in this thread and seems next you're going to say that FLA wasn't allowed to have control towers at their POSses. At the moment this thread is basically 1) FLA says what's going on, shows proof 2) NFC says FLA is lying 3) go to 1 Please, PLEEEASE break this loop NFC. It's not leading anywhere and you know it. In case you don't know what the word "proof" means, look here: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=proof
Kalened	Posted - 2006.04.24 19:49:00 - [86] Originally by: Ather Ialeas Originally by: Kalened Well they don't listen and obey. They work with us to reach like minded goals. AUS Corp has never ripped anyone off, nor was FLA backstabbed in any way. You may choose to believe the tripe they spew "we're innocent" "we want peace" but they had commitments to live up to and they failed. I was supposed to stay away from this thread but whatever, I think you need a little reminder: Show everyone the proof. Really, show everyone at least anything, may it be a screenshot of one of FLA's accused 20+ POSses producing those 300 battleships per day in their ship assembly arrays - OH WAIT, didn't you say it was actually REFINING ARRAYS which were not allowed at POSses - NO WAIT, it was INTENSIVE REFINING ARRAYS. All these have been claimed to be the reason for the hostility in this thread and seems next you're going to say that FLA wasn't allowed to have control towers at their POSses. At the moment this thread is basically 1) FLA says what's going on, shows proof 2) NFC says FLA is lying 3) go to 1 Please, PLEEEASE break this loop NFC. It's not leading anywhere and you know it. In case you don't know what the word "proof" means, look here: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=proof repeating things over and over is not proof. actually neither side has shown any proof. The fact is FLA stands alone. That should be all the proof that is required.
Ather Ialeas	Posted - 2006.04.24 19:54:00 - [87] Edited by: Ather Ialeas on 24/04/2006 19:57:28 Originally by: Kalened repeating things over and over is not proof. actually neither side has shown any proof. The fact is FLA stands alone. That should be all the proof that is required. Are you even in Deklein personally? Are you saying that what I've seen today in JU-OWQ:s local didn't happen? Or that those cynofields are just some sort of buggy map data? Or that my current corp's POS which is located about 15 jumps AWAY from CZD has been attacked for several hours by NFC? Like I said, there is a lot of words in here but you're not even bothering to say ANYTHING besides "That's a lie." Just try it yourself, say something that has a certain relevance to the issue and makes FLA look bad, for example "FLA was seen escorting five Titans to CZD three days ago." Please? Pretty please? With sugar and cherry on top? EDIT: I'll give you one proof to show what sort of info I'd like to see from NFC: At this moment the executor corp of NFC (the alliance) is AUS, you can check that ingame. Google cache shows that was not the case two weeks ago. Got an explanation?
Sypher313	Posted - 2006.04.24 20:03:00 - [88] Originally by: Nickel Deuce And I thought NSA was bad.. good lord. q4t
The Cursed	Posted - 2006.04.24 20:38:00 - [89] Humm so are you guys gonna kill each other or what? GODS Is Dead!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.04.24 20:51:00 - [90] NFC and FLA is a match made in heaven. I cant think of two groups that deserve each other more.

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