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Nick Parker
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:13:00 -
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The FLA has been betrayed. For the past few months, the FLA has been commited to the NFC, trying to bring a safe and prosperous Dekline region into existance. We commited our forces to the area, and helped secure it when IRON Left. After we had secured the area, the NFC turned on us. Over the past two weeks, they have secretly begin amassing forces to attack us. Yesterday they attacked a FLA member, without cause or reason. Then they called us to the table, asking forgiveness and claiming it was bad intelligence. They asked for a meeting today, 23 April, at 1700 hours eve time. We agreed, hoping to come to a diplomatic solution. At the appointed time, FLA diplomats showed up in both text and voice channels, ready to set aside our differences. No members of the NFC showed up. We waited about for 20 minutes. In that time, we learned that they had assembled at 100 member + fleet, to destroy the FLA's Assets in the region.
We fell for it once, the pleas of "Cooperation" and "working this out". We will not fall for it again. We have lost all hope of diplomacy, due to the back stabbing traitorous nature of the NFC. It shames the FLA that we have associated ourselves with them.
To all those innocents in the Dekline region, we are not hostile to you and wish to remain friends. If anyone needs to contact the FLA, you may contact Myself, DragonMorph, or Pluvious.
Nick Parker
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Raaki
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:22:00 -
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It was NFC that was betrayed.
Thats all.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:28:00 -
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Sounds like a fun internal spat.
"The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer |
Drakin Korin
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:32:00 -
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Deklein*
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Fats
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:43:00 -
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How was NFC betrayed? plz do explain? Was FLA actaly atacked or are you just speculating?
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Crom
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:46:00 -
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NFC is gathering their forces to attack FLA atm so all their stations are undefended. just a small hint to anyone that wants free stations from em.
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Nick Parker
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Nick Parker on 23/04/2006 20:46:13
Can you please provide evidence of how we betrayed you?
Here is some evidence of how the FLA was betrayed, without cause.
Victim: Kyran Dussalt
Alliance: Freelancer Alliance
Corp: Freelancer Union
Destroyed: Capsule
System: VFK-IV
Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Turq
Security: 1.3
Alliance: Northern Freedom Coalition
Corp: GalacTECH Unlimited
Ship: Thrasher
Weapon: 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
Name: gillard (laid the final blow)
Security: 5.0
Alliance: None
Corp: Digital Fury Corporation
Ship: Megathron
Weapon: 425mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon
Name: Marithin
Security: 3.4
Alliance: Northern Freedom Coalition
Corp: AUS Corporation
Ship: Megathron
Weapon: 425mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon
Name: XxAngelxX
Security: 5.0
Alliance: None
Corp: Digital Fury Corporation
Ship: Armageddon
Weapon: Tachyon Beam Laser I
Name: David Hope
Security: 5.0
Alliance: None
Corp: Warped Mining
Ship: Megathron
Weapon: 'Malkuth' Cruise Launcher I
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Tornoon
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:51:00 -
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could u explain how they betrayed nfc?
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Crom
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:58:00 -
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they cant... because we never did.. AUS corp just got greedy.
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Quilty
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Posted - 2006.04.23 21:02:00 -
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It was agreed at the formation of NFC that all stations would pass to NFC, however when the time has come for transfer Aus corp has refused to give up theres,so they invented a story that FLA was building 300bs a day to take over deklein, they then removed docking rights from FLA and move there clones etc, this was followed by them attacking FLA members,quiet simply this is down to the greed of AUS Corp who want to maintain there tax streams while docked at there stations without actually doing anything themselves to benefit the long term future of NFC.FLA wanted all stations transfered to NFC holding corp but alas Aus made up the above bs story and unfortunately the shorted sighted leadership of the other founding alliances are unable to see the wood for the trees and have been suckered in by Aus corps lies.
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Feasd
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Posted - 2006.04.23 21:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Raaki
It was NFC that was betrayed.
Thats all.
NFC was indeed betrayed, or at least that is to say that the alleged founding principles of the NFC were betrayed. However, it looks from this end that the betrayal was on the part of AUS.
As I recall, at it's inception, there was to be an umbrella Alliance (NFC), which was to control he stations in Deklein following IRON's departure through a holding corp created for that purpose.
Last night FLA suddenly found themselves locked out of the AUS-controlled stations in the region and were brusquely informed that they were 'under curfew' (I kid ye not), and would be fired upon if they attempted to undock or to move from whatever safespot they had moved to on the instruction of the FLA Council.
This action was taken following the alleged receipt of intel by AUS that FLA were supposedly stockpiling warships and were going to 'take Deklein'. This, I can assure you, is faulty intel (at best) and smacks more of a smokescreen to allow certain elements within NFC to pursue this agenda. FLA have at no time formed any plans to take and hold any region.
A short while later, we were told that all had been sorted. One of our pilots volunteered to test this, and had their ship destroyed and was podded for their troubles.
Today has proceeded pretty much as Nick posted in the OP. A sizeable chunk of the resident Alliances and corps in Deklein seem to be blindly believing what they ahve been told and are moving against FLA as we speak. It's sad to see so many people falling for the propaganda being spouted at them by whoever is spearheading this power-grab by AUS, but such is life, I guess.
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2006.04.23 21:12:00 -
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/me moves back to Delve...
Atleast I know where I stand with BoB 
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Francis Verdictio
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Posted - 2006.04.23 21:26:00 -
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It's also nice to note that the NFC internal forums are 'down for maintainance' at the moment this problem started. Hence, FLA has had _no_ option to inform all other Deklein residents and NFC members about this situation.
Make no mistake. We're being attacked without provocation. Key members of FLA internal organization were just announcing their time to take some vacation 'because the situation has normalized'. Would we start a war that gets us nothing at a point like this?
To Deklein residents: Think who you are fighting for. FLA is an industrial alliance interested in a safe and stable environment for building and creating. What possible reason would we have for wanting a bigger piece of the pie while we're doing well as it is?
AUS Corp has been itching to hold the stations ever since they spent so long a time being ripped off by IRON (or so the story goes) with their Land of AUS station in 3jn. Now they want to hold all the pie. When they suddenly revoked docking rights and declared FLA KOS, they immediately had a fleet ready to move against us. Sound like a spur-of-the-moment action?
What can you expect if AUS Corp takes over? They have shown their greed. Furthermore, they are attacking an alliance that has shown nothing but support and friendship to them and to the IRON alliance when they were in it. Treachery, thy name is AUS.
What can you expect from Freelancers Alliance? We have always worked _with_ people, not against them. We are an alliance that gives power to the individual to do what they want, banding to gether for mutual defense and fun. We've never declared a war on anyone. We never intend to, if there's another way.
Just think. Think who you are fighting, and who you are fighting for.
Ask why NFC forums are down. Ask the questions nobody wants you to ask. You won't like the answers, if you get any.
The power is in your hands. Do you want to have a North that is strong and safe? Or do you want a North in anarchy, controlled by a power-hungry corp with no vision? A perfect target for any stronger invader?
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Divine Spirit
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Posted - 2006.04.23 21:52:00 -
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Seems to me the NFC need to wise up and edge away from Aus.
I'd like to know if the same sort of crappy tactics were used against IRON.
Think about it first all members of NFC... don't get tarred as the same brush as the AUS tards. They will use you as they have done the FLA....greed is a powerful motivator.
Good luck FLA. You need all the support you can get it appears. 
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Cockroach
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Posted - 2006.04.23 21:55:00 -
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i never thought that i would ever hear the lies that Raaki, Masterblade and his corp would ever say come from a human being....FLA are not producing 300 BS's a day nor have an agenda to take over Deklein. This is down to Aus corp greed and them not losing the isk they make from their stations in Deklein.
FLA are considered a threat because of FLA 's size but FLA are an industrial alliance and an easy target as such. Such a great achievement for Aus corp to back stab an honourable alliance and to try and kill off an industrial alliance, such cowardice, such greed for Aus. Is this how Iron was betrayed?
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Francis Verdictio
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:04:00 -
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NFC Forums are coming up from 'maintainance' that started immediately as FLA was declared hostile. Currently all previous posts in the forum have been deleted, and all FLA access to the forums (naturally) restricted.
The NFC forums are obviously currently under AUS Corp control. Do NOT believe information you recieve from the forum without questioning it. Decide for yourself who to believe. That's all I ask.
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Raaki
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Raaki on 23/04/2006 22:07:07
I have nothing but respect for IRON. I consider them my friends.
You don't understand what IRON did for Deklein.
Hi Darko 
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Crom
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:12:00 -
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oh but we do understand what IRON did to Deklein. We also know what you did to IRON.
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Francis Verdictio
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:27:00 -
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It is also nice to see the complete lack of diplomatic communications, and constant use of alliances like Sparta that we hadn't yet confirmed as hostile for your intel... Backstabbing 4tw, eh?
Raaki, at least in my eyes, AUS is the instigator of these hostilities. You didn't even try to contact FLA before imposing an arbitrary curfew, and imposed impossible timelines (5 minute ultimatum, that has to be the first ) on a situation where only those who could actually have information could act (as in, those who were part of your little conspiracy ring and backstab group).
As things stand now, there will be civil war in the North. This will benefit no-one, and if you think FLA will be pushed out from Deklein with a quick campaign, you are sorely mistaken. I know I will fight for my right to stay in my home. So will us all.
So come with your ships and your guns, and your petty lies. At least now, we know where we stand with you and yours.
Those who do not wish to fight us: YOU DO NOT HAVE TO! All you need is to stay back, and not get involved in this fight. It should be between Freelancers Alliance and AUS and their lackeys. There's no need for additional casualities in any other group.
There's only one thing I'd ask of those not willing to choose sides: Defend Deklein. When the fighting's going to be hardest, there'll be hostiles looking at Deklein with a hungry eye. After the fighting's done, we'll all have to rebuild, and that'll be easier without having to take the area back from, say, E.R.A or BoB first.
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Camp Queer
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:29:00 -
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This is madness. The FLA have been betrayed. We have created a market in Deklein. When we arrived, there was nothing. Now the market is starting to flourish. However we have been turned on because of the greed of a corrupt few.
Mark my words, we will fight with all our hearts to prevent what is happening, and we can only hope that those who we have been happy to call friends realise how we have been double crossed, and that they understand that they will be next.
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Hermia
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:31:00 -
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How strange, if this is true im disapointed in what sounded such a noble beginning at the time.
From what i gather,
AUS have all the stations and wont properly give FLA a reasonable share of deklein space - a station
NFC and FLA both failed to draft mutual defence and asset plans before their reigns started.
and the conspiracy NFC are completely tethered to IRON, all policies follow IRON's wishes, and securing everything in deklein would undoubtly be one of them.
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Drunken Claptrap
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:53:00 -
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Those of you who have been blinded by the AUS smokescreen, please come to your senses. The FLA has been stabbed in the back, you will be next! We are a peaceful Alliance, trying to help you bring stability to this region. Don't let the greed of a small minority lead you into tyranny! Fight with the FLA.
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Kantide
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Posted - 2006.04.23 23:11:00 -
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More targets? But which side do we shoot? (probably the ones that threatened us with dreads) 
On another note, I don't think we'll be accepting the invitation to mine up there now.
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Aarthorn
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Posted - 2006.04.23 23:12:00 -
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Even now the fla has made no hostile moves what so ever, we have assumed a defensive stance and attempted a peacefull negotiations, Aus corp have now lead the NFC on an attack run of CZD station. I really wish i hadn't taken that 1 week eve break now, it truely is a sad state of affairs i have returned to.
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Midiana
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Posted - 2006.04.23 23:19:00 -
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We just want to be residents of Dek, and to get along and chill... have fun in the GAME...
Politics are unfortunately a side effect of large powerful entities.
We were happy to be NFC til it disbanded and i've friends amongst all concerned so I hope it gets resolved without too much grief on both sides.
I think the whole situation is very cloudy for all the people not close to the top of NFC or FLA so its very unwise to comment with only half the facts.
And someone tried to blast me for fraps'ing the fight in czd.. ..
Everyone knows grief sells... god damnit..
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Franky B
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Posted - 2006.04.23 23:59:00 -
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I WAS quite nonchalant about FLA presence in deklein. It didnt bother me at all that you were here. but when you started throwing accusations up that we were somehow robbing deklein and being greedy warmongers... it doesnt go down too well.
On top of this, you contradicted the NFC stipulation that all minerals be refined at an alliance controlled refinery (if your an alliance/coalition then this is a very simple way of somehow contributing to the betterment of the alliance and thus region). putting up intensive refining arrays on your posses isnt a very friendly gesture.
And I still cant believe that you've all the nerve to call us greedy liars. we've been fighting in dek for more than a year and we've fully supported every effort to sa***uard dek in the interest of deklein residents.
we're doing this because you've become an alliance within the coalition that is not conforming to SIMPLE rules. we dont ask that you give all your earnings to the alliance, we're asking a 5% TAX ON REFINING... is that so hard to foot?
never mind, you'll be out soon enough.
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Drunken Claptrap
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Posted - 2006.04.24 00:03:00 -
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Actually, the order was no refining within 5 jumps of a station. We followed that to the letter.
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ShyLion
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Posted - 2006.04.24 00:29:00 -
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AUS seems to have had this planned for a while. With the use of disinformation and blatant lies they have manipulated the region. This is what the NFC and Deklein are in for. If you like being manipulated and controlled then this is for you. Now I really understand what IRON meant by the game has not being fun anymore...
Freedom and a global economy benefit everyone. WAKE UP!!
Yea.. and to say we refine and use this as an excuse.. LOL you are totally insane.
Lie down with AUS and wake up with fleas - you sign your own indenturement. What AUS has shown is that they are protecting their own income and interests not the regions!
REMEMBER CZD!!
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Why'dyou HitMe
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Posted - 2006.04.24 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kantide
More targets? But which side do we shoot? (probably the ones that threatened us with dreads)
On another note, I don't think we'll be accepting the invitation to mine up there now.
Ummm... what Frege got to do with this?
Didnt know you were involved in Deklein tbh
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Tornoon
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Posted - 2006.04.24 01:16:00 -
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I've heard lots of stuff from FLA which make me want to side with them. But I havn't heard anything from NFC that is reason enough for war. If NFC really has a reason for this war they better make it plain and clear. The only serious thing I have heard against FLA so far is they are accused of not follow the refining tax rule.... If this war is about an ACCUSATION of skipping taxes then NFC has some serious problems. I don't want to choose my side until I hear from both sides but if one side chooses not to respond my choice is made for me.
So can somebody from NFC tell us WHY?
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