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Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10299	Posted - 2014.03.09 21:21:00 - [1] - Quote If it gets stuck for 3 hours trying to find something that isn't there, it's a bot 99.9% of the time. Anybody in this thread pretending that they know how CCP's anti-botting measures work is lying because those are trade secrets. If you reported a real bot and it's still running around, it's possible that they're just gathering data on how that particular bot works until they have enough to identify similar bots. But that's just speculation. Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:05:00 - [2] - Quote Batelle wrote: If you aren't RMTing your botted isk, and if you aren't modifying the client directly, I don't think CCP gives a damn. That's a lie. Market bots have insane advantages over players who manually update their orders. Mining, mission, anomaly and belt ratting bots use a lot more server resources than the typical player. Mining and non-mission ratting bots take up limited in-game resources (asteroids, ice, anomalies) that would otherwise be used by rule-abiding players. All of these types of bots generate huge amounts of wealth for those who run them and that wealth drives up in-game commodity prices, especially PLEX. All of these things are bad for the rule-abiding player's game experience, which is bad for CCP, whether the botters RMT or otherwise. Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:21:00 - [3] - Quote Why is it hilarious, anonymous trash talking NPC alt? Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:33:00 - [4] - Quote So many clueless nobodies try to assert that we engage in that kind of thing but not one of them has ever provided a shred of evidence beyond "the voices in my head say so" Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:35:00 - [5] - Quote Because guess what we don't do it and if we did it'd be impossible to hide it from the hundred or so people involved in running the alliance, thousands of members and especially CCP Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:39:00 - [6] - Quote Or simply gather a posse in Tornadoes to direct your wrath towards him in the form of a volley of 1400mm arties Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:02:00 - [7] - Quote Mandarine wrote: Omg yes that would be so hard to compartimentalize and we all know CCP has no close ties to any alliances whatsoever nor could they get a stealth cut from the profits. That really makes a lot of sense, sorry for this crazy thinking about the wholesomest of alliances in the wholesomest of gaming communities out there. Ahahaha you think that CCP would take a "stealth cut" from a business they could engage in themselves while taking all of the profits Please share more of your brilliant business acumen Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:14:00 - [8] - Quote Mandarine wrote: They already do, that-¦s called PLEX. But that is CCP-¦s revenue, not stealth personal profit for devs in the know. And why would they spend time developing stealth RMT strategies, when there are gamers who are already doing it? they just have to turn a blind eye, ask for some share, and ban those they don-¦t like. That you don-¦t think it-¦s possible and been happening for some time only shows that you-¦re either a liar or an imbecile. brilliant you're suggesting that CCP employees would risk not just their jobs, but their careers in the gaming industry to engage in a business that makes pitiful profits while taking in a pitiful cut of those profits brilliant, enlighten us some more. maybe you even know enough about this to take your evidence forward to CCP IA and CCP's security team because clearly you, the NPC alt, are very well-informed on these matters Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:32:00 - [9] - Quote Mandarine wrote: I-¦m suggesting that in a game that showcases the most toxic and hateful community of all online video games ever, and which has strong hints of RMT, if the company that runs the game is pretty happy with the vitriol in its community, and doesn-¦t seem to do much about bots, it may very well be because they enjoy that the stakes are high and have some kind of arrangements with the botting community. I read more bizarre stuff that involved russian maffias and the icelandic government some time ago: There-¦s no smoke without fire. except your little conspiracy theory falls flat because any of the parties that are involved according to the arrangement of rat entrails, the voices or whatever could easily turn around and expose the whole scheme, especially in a game like this where allegiances shift like the tide Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:38:00 - [10] - Quote Mandarine wrote: And about pitiful profits... 1T isk is in the 30k$ range. Which big time alliance doesn-¦t pull 1T monthly? see here's the problem: every big time alliance has big time expenses and they'd have to really pull the wool over everyone's heads to hide that level of theft Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:46:00 - [11] - Quote and really if a CCP employee was involved in that kind of thing that begs the question: why wouldn't they simply quietly spawn assets to do all of it themselves (and keep 100% of the profits, rather than a pitiful cut) instead of cutting deals with third parties while having to pull the wool over the heads of management staff, the entire GM team, IA, and the security team? again, your conspiracy theory falls flat on its face Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:58:00 - [12] - Quote Mandarine wrote: Because spawning assets shows up in logs. Turning a blind eye to certain select potential botters (or telling them how to not get caught), shows up nowhere, and there-¦s very little wool to pull over anyone-¦s eyes. The security team consists of CCP Stillman, CCP Peligro, CCP Doppel and GM Grimmi. So that's four sets of eyes to pull wool over. Like I said, anybody who is smart enough to hide this level of collusion wouldn't need to collude with players. Mandarine wrote: Why are you still answering if this is crazy talk? Do you usually debate crazy people? Yes, it's fun. Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:10:00 - [13] - Quote Mandarine wrote: All of four people. Wow! are they icelandic? Plus, internal audits are always impartial and cannot be swayed, as we all know. Thnaks for making absolutely clear that there is zero possibility of stealth RMT shenaningans in CCP or big alliances. I guess that explains why the stakes are so low and why alliance leaders take things so very casually. A minimum of four people. I stand by my statement that if a CCP employee was influential and intelligent enough to do this kind of thing, they would not do it, and if they did, they certainly wouldn't need players involved because they could just do it themselves. Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:17:00 - [14] - Quote Mandarine wrote: There-¦s PLEX, which is standard RMT for CCP, and then there are individual CCP members. Note that I write members, not employees. Also oh my god you actually think that the russian government has stakes in spaceship money ahahahahaha Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10306	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:23:00 - [15] - Quote Toe the line, tovarish Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á

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