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AnzacPaul
Invictus Australis
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.07.02 06:24:00 -
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Duchy Duke wrote:Quote:I wondered what features you want to see later this year. Do you have a good idea? Tell me in the official EVE Online forum thread! Hi Cerlestes, thanks for the great tool. I use it constantly.  I have a suggestion. I believe others have mentioned it, but In the ISK column we have the price per 1/M3 of Ore (probably useful to Mining Ops and ORCA pilots), but not: - Price per unit of Ore (useful for raw mineral traders. miners selling their Ore or haulers buying it).
If that change was made I'd never have to leave your site  . Currently I end up going between your site (speed and readability) and this Google Doc's spreadsheet (which contains a column called 'ore value'). Thanks again!
+1 for this, use this for my alt all the time.
Thanks Cerlestes. |
Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence
Test Alliance Please Ignore
104
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Posted - 2012.07.02 06:38:00 -
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Gingelmesh wrote:Dave stark wrote:suggestion for a fix; make sure the prices are accurate, being in null i often have minerals moved to jita and i use the tool to check jita prices, when i contracted some minerals to a friend he informed me it was above jita price as your tool was woefully inaccurate.
kinda defeats the entire purpose of the tool when the isk values are wrong. for example right now in jita both buy and sell orders are below what you've got listed as jita price for megacyte. You have to remember, this tool is only as accurate as Eve-central.com is, if eve-central is out, then so is this tool While i would love is CCP exported the information of the basic trade hubs, right now it relys on use submissions, and as such might be out of date!
to be honest i've given up on the tool now, every time i check jita on my alt the price is way, way off. it's never close to the buy or sell orders in jita so i have no idea what it's being calculated from.
i suggest finding a more reliable source of information. |
Stetson Hollander
Limelight Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.07.04 18:28:00 -
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Is there any documentation that would help me use the index'es for a google doc spreadsheet. Im just learning how to do this and having a daily pull or whatever is a reasonable time to pull the information would be handy,.
Also maybe from the perspective of someone new to spreadsheets because i got into eve and now need to use them :P
thank you for such a great tool! |
Daya Audeles
VEB Fortschritt Kosmos - Glueck Auf
Advanced Combine of Miners and Explorers
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Posted - 2012.07.05 15:40:00 -
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Hey,
I just wanted to say thanx very much for this nice tool. I always check, before I go out there and suck the hell out of this roids.
So keep on the good work.
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Nha Su
Gateless Gate Research Institute
A Gathering of Hungry Ghosts
0
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Posted - 2012.07.07 03:54:00 -
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Thanks for the great tool.
A little typo in the Pyroxeres row. It's "Viscous" not "Vicious" pyroxeres. : ) |
Kailean
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.07 20:06:00 -
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Nha Su wrote:Thanks for the great tool.
A little typo in the Pyroxeres row. It's "Viscous" not "Vicious" pyroxeres. : )
Aww, I liked that typo. Not that I ever mine, but if I did I'd totally go for the vicious ones first. |
Lady Goldfinch
Sinister Elite
Black Legion.
0
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Posted - 2012.07.08 10:27:00 -
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These EVE tools need to be added to App store so I can browse them on iPadand update myself while at work, and have my plans ready in the afternoon. |
Jack Haydn
Valar Morghulis.
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:25:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Gingelmesh wrote:Dave stark wrote:suggestion for a fix; make sure the prices are accurate, being in null i often have minerals moved to jita and i use the tool to check jita prices, when i contracted some minerals to a friend he informed me it was above jita price as your tool was woefully inaccurate.
kinda defeats the entire purpose of the tool when the isk values are wrong. for example right now in jita both buy and sell orders are below what you've got listed as jita price for megacyte. You have to remember, this tool is only as accurate as Eve-central.com is, if eve-central is out, then so is this tool While i would love is CCP exported the information of the basic trade hubs, right now it relys on use submissions, and as such might be out of date! to be honest i've given up on the tool now, every time i check jita on my alt the price is way, way off. it's never close to the buy or sell orders in jita so i have no idea what it's being calculated from. i suggest finding a more reliable source of information.
The price shown is the 95th percentile of the entire value for the good, not the lowest sell order.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentile
Cerlestes, might be worth noting the 95th percentile thing permanently and prominently, as some may have not caught your green information message when you switched the algorithm to that. |
anishamora
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.12 08:06:00 -
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Whenever I take a break from EVE and want to come back your site is the first I visit. I don't know why but I do that every time. I guess it helps me to get a very broad overview of the market or something. Or maybe it's a sort of ritual :))
Still, one of the most useful EVE tool out there. |
Sten Biller
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:58:00 -
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Jack Haydn wrote:Dave stark wrote:to be honest i've given up on the tool now, every time i check jita on my alt the price is way, way off. it's never close to the buy or sell orders in jita so i have no idea what it's being calculated from.
i suggest finding a more reliable source of information. The price shown is the 95th percentile of the entire value for the good, not the lowest sell order. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PercentileCerlestes, might be worth noting the 95th percentile thing permanently and prominently, as some may have not caught your green information message when you switched the algorithm to that. I also have issuse with Jita being alot higher for some ores, & even other ores being enough higher than Jita just a few jumps away!
How about adding filtering (by region drop down, or multi-select system if you can, or at minimum the hubs + avg like you are tracking now?
Also, how about a direct link from your chart row names to EVE-Central like so: Pyroxeres ?
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Duensch
Gambrini
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Posted - 2012.07.14 11:38:00 -
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First: Thanks for that awesome tool. Used it to maximize my incoming the last weeks :) Also the mining timer is cool.
But , I really must know, which prices you use for the charts and so on... Could it be, you use the sell orders instead of the buy orders? So that is quite confusing for people like me, who just want to sell their stuff and not making sell orders for it.
And that direct link to eve-central for ore, ice, and their refined materials would be awesome!
Regards,
Duensch |
Raiz Nhell
DEEP CORPS
152
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Posted - 2012.08.23 00:48:00 -
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Love the tool... Thanks heaps, works a treat...
One suggestion I would make is to include the market volume in the Market Trends tab. Don't know if its possible from the eve central data though.
Would allow us to see the biggest movers and when someone decides to play silly buggers with mineral volumes...
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:16:00 -
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Hey guys!
Thanks so much for the ideas posted in this thread. Let me go through them.
Quote:It would be really nice to see the volume next to ore/ice
This is a great idea! I'll even add two choosable displays to the ISK column: "Value of one full ore batch" and "Value of one ore unit".
The upcoming version will enable you to choose from all regions and the top 10-ish trade hubs, which will of course include Hek and some others asked for.
Quote:A table for gas mining
No. I finally made the decision not to add this, since it has nothing to do with refining. I'm working on another project tho, that will give you market-insight on gas too. (see three points below)
Quote:Market price history for last 7, 30, 90 and 180 days.
The upcoming version will enable you to select these ranges, plus 360 and 720 days.
Quote:Bulk Ore Prices, that is to say un-refined
Another great idea - going to be included in the upcoming version. |
Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
44
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:17:00 -
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Quote:Let us add our own items to observe
would advanced moon materials be an option?
This won't be featured in the ore charts, but I'm working on the backbone for another project that'll do exactly this job. It will constantly suck in the current market data available in the EMDR network (EVE-Central, EVE Mon), and will feature not only 95th percentile, but a wide variety of values for any given moment of every item buyable in the market in every reagion and trade hub, with not more than 5 minutes delay. Sounds awesome? It is. But it still will take a lot of time in development, since we're talking about hundreds of gigabytes of data here, which is completely new to me (and probably most other programmers) and will be a real challenge. But I'm sure you'll see a first complete version around mid-2013.
Quote:make sure the prices are accurate
How about adding filtering by region ... + avg
See above point. The next version will give you more control about accuracy in value and location.
Quote:Is there any documentation that would help me use the index'es for a google doc spreadsheet.
I don't exactly know what you mean. If you want to embed the ore table's data into a (google) spreadsheet, I don't think it's possible.
Quote:A little typo in the Pyroxeres row. It's "Viscous" not "Vicious" pyroxeres. : )
Aww, I liked that typo. Not that I ever mine, but if I did I'd totally go for the vicious ones first.
Hahaha. This made me laugh a lot. :) Thanks for spotting this hilarious typo!
Quote:These EVE tools need to be added to App store
Nope. I'm working on a mobile-firendly layout for the next version - but I can't promise that. |
Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
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Posted - 2012.10.10 19:17:00 -
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Quote:Could it be, you use the sell orders instead of the buy orders?
Yes. Currently, the 98th percentile of the sell prices is used and shown. As mentioned, this behaviour is going to be selectable.
Quote:include the market volume
This was already mentioned and will be done.
Keep the ideas coming :) I really appreciate them.
Regards,
cerlestes
PS: A big shout out goes to HanFox, who created a GreaseMonkey script for the Ore Table that makes the small market history graphs appear bigger. Thank you very much for this - this feature will appear in the upcoming new version.
https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/145783 |
CataCourier
Asha' Man Corp
6
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Posted - 2012.10.10 20:03:00 -
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You, Sir, are a Gentleman and a Scholar. Thank you and keep up the good work! |
Julien Brellier
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:57:00 -
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Oustanding  |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2012.10.11 13:30:00 -
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You are looking for ideas?
A plot of the highest buy and lowest sell, both shown at once, both showing intra-day (say every 15 minutes) data.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Leeloo Alizee
Orion Constellation Inc.
1
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Posted - 2012.10.11 14:16:00 -
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Link not working today, is it upgrading or is it just down?  |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
924
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Posted - 2012.10.11 16:35:00 -
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Leeloo Alizee wrote:Link not working today, is it upgrading or is it just down?
Has not worked the last 6 hours.................. |
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Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
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Posted - 2012.10.11 16:54:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Has not worked the last 6 hours..................
Looks like the MySQL-server crashed tonight, but could recover, and then crashed again at 12:17 UTC. I don't know yet what was causing it, but I'll take care.
Sorry once again for any inconveniences 
Regards,
cerlestes |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
924
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Posted - 2012.10.11 17:21:00 -
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Cerlestes wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Has not worked the last 6 hours.................. Looks like the MySQL-server crashed tonight, but could recover, and then crashed again at 12:17 UTC. I don't know yet what was causing it, but I'll take care. Sorry once again for any inconveniences Regards, cerlestes
Working for me at this timestamp. |
Ondralas Vatar
Cursed Advocates Inc.
Massa Interitum
0
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Posted - 2012.10.11 22:09:00 -
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Table seems to be working, but I can't get the price column to show any values, whether I'm trying to use the eve-central data or not. |
Merik Sylvanus
NovaTech Universal
Freemen Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.10.13 11:28:00 -
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Ondralas Vatar wrote:Table seems to be working, but I can't get the price column to show any values, whether I'm trying to use the eve-central data or not.
Same problem here at the moment.
Thanks much for this tool, I use it every day! |
Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
52
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Posted - 2012.12.31 17:24:00 -
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Sorry for those major server problems I had a few months ago! To this day I can't surely say what caused them, but I got rid of a lot of potential problems since then and currently it's running stable.
Again, sorry for any inconveniences caused by this!
Best regards and a happy new year!
cerlestes |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3229
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Posted - 2012.12.31 20:15:00 -
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I've been trying here and there to adjust settings on your amazing page, but it always tells me to use a profile and all that yet I have never been able to figure out how to make that happen.
I won't bore you with describing my attempts, but I'm just not sure what I am missing. I can't even change the volume designation.
Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde |
Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
52
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Posted - 2012.12.31 21:10:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've been trying here and there to adjust settings on your amazing page, but it always tells me to use a profile and all that yet I have never been able to figure out how to make that happen.
You can create a profile by logging in with one on the top left of the page, above the logo!
I'll make that clearer in the new version, i promise! :) |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3233
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Posted - 2013.01.01 01:23:00 -
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Cerlestes wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've been trying here and there to adjust settings on your amazing page, but it always tells me to use a profile and all that yet I have never been able to figure out how to make that happen.
You can create a profile by logging in with one on the top left of the page, above the logo! I'll make that clearer in the new version, i promise! :)
I did enter one, but nothing happens. After re-entering, still can't manipulate anything.
Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde |
Jophes Mannhoh
ElmDrizzEnd League
3
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:48:00 -
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Cerlestes wrote:Quote:Bulk Ore Prices, that is to say un-refined Another great idea - going to be included in the upcoming version.
Did this end up making it in? I'm having a hell of a time deducing which value is for raw vs refined. |
Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:52:00 -
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Jophes Mannhoh wrote:Cerlestes wrote:Quote:Bulk Ore Prices, that is to say un-refined Another great idea - going to be included in the upcoming version. Did this end up making it in? I'm having a hell of a time deducing which value is for raw vs refined.
Currently all values on the site are about minerals, not the ores themselves!
You will be able to show prices for each ore instead of it's minerals in the upcoming version. |
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