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Cerlestes
Jagdkommando Jagdkommand0
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Posted - 2011.11.12 10:40:00 -
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http://ore.cerlestes.de
Check it out! Already 1500 EVE players are using it every day! 
What is it? My Ore Table isn't just another one of theese refining charts...
- It's keeping it's prices automatically up to date
- You can configure it's values as you wish and even set your own prices
- You can create a profile (no password needed) to save those values and share them with other people
- It's completely sortable - you can even sort by multiple columns at the same time
- It will show you a 7 day market history of the five major trading hubs, plus a 30 day history of the Jita prices
- It also features ice and drone alloys, including ice product prices
- It has a mining timer, which can play a sound in an interval defined by you (requires Adobe Flash - won't work in the ingame browser)
Give it a try and leave a comment, please 
Thanks and fly safe! Cerlestes
The old forum's thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=768417 |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
152

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Posted - 2011.11.12 13:30:00 -
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Hello Cerlestes,
Thank you very much for that nice tool. I found it always quite useful during my active time and like the clean layout plus all the functionality. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Kronossan
16
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Posted - 2011.11.13 18:52:00 -
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Yay a chance to thank you for this awesome website which I've been using for ages, ever since I stumbled upon it quite some time back  |

Lairne Tekitsu
Ordo Mercuia
17
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Posted - 2011.11.13 20:24:00 -
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Wait, does the price represent the total value of the ore after you refine it? |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
115
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Posted - 2011.11.15 05:38:00 -
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Yea I use this tool pretty much everyday, Good stuff man. |

Cerlestes
Jagdkommando Jagdkommand0
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Posted - 2011.11.15 19:34:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:I found it always quite useful during my active time Why, thank you, sir! :) Danke!
Lairne Tekitsu wrote:Wait, does the price represent the total value of the ore after you refine it? The prices shown represent the refined mineral's selling price, yes. |

srwgin
RC Industries Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.18 08:50:00 -
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i think you can change Market Trend change Oursulaert to hek jita(C)/dodixie(G)/rens(M)/hek(M)/ Amarr(A) |

Sir MoIle
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:20:00 -
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Needs a bump! Thanks for a nice tool! |

Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2011.12.15 12:47:00 -
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Shows nice price spikes on low ends, especially Trit and Mex, but also Pyerite and, to a lesser extent, Isogen. Pyroxeres mining already up to 3,87mil per hauler load (27500m3) and considerably better deal than Veldspar mining.
Could be that miners already switched from Veldspar to Pyroxeres (or Plagioclase) to get Mexallon and that in turn has been driving up Tritanium prices. Funny fluctuations all because of Tier 3 BCs being unusually Mex-heavy to build.
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
456
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:41:00 -
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srwgin wrote:i think you can change Market Trend change Oursulaert to hek jita(C)/dodixie(G)/rens(M)/hek(M)/ Amarr(A)
Depending on how accurate EVE-MarketData is, here are the sell order totals for each hub:
http://eve-marketdata.com/reports.php?step=Station2®ion_id=10000002
Jita (The Forge) - 2.58 trillion Amarr (Domain) - 866 billion Rens (Heimatar) - 612 billion Dodixie (Sinq Laison) - 569 billion Hek (Metropolis) - 280 billion Oursulaert (Essence) - 157 billion Tash-Murkon (Tash-Murkon) - 153 billion (if you combine both stations) Motsu (The Citadel) - 116 billion Agil (Khanid) - 94 billion
And I'm sure I've missed one or two in the 100 billion+ range.
So while Hek is bigger then Oursulaert, neither have the volume of Rens / Dodixie / Amarr / Jita. |

Varnoka
Tigris Cleptum Gaza
1
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:47:00 -
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Love this tool and use it all the time. being able to customize for different hauling amounts makes it ideal.  |

Happy Fanatic
Abh Academy Abh Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.01.01 21:29:00 -
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Hi, I really like this tool, I'm just getting into it and it has worked very well.
In the ore prices tab I have selected both the +5% and +10% yield ore types but the in brackets number still remains the same. Which 1m3 of ore does this reperesent the basic +5 or +10? As the m3 of ore differs per ore type could the brackes price be the worked out unit price of the ore (whatever 0.35m3 it is) rather than per 1m3 of the ore. So the price in brackets is the unit price you should be paying or less to ensure you brake even or make isk on the refine.
I hope this makes sense.
Or if there is some thing I am doing wrong let me know ;)
I have been setting manual prices for buy orders my station, looking how much volume of an ore is for sale, working out the m3 of the ore and putting this number in the m3 box. I do get 95.5% refine so I know right away if the amount quoted for the ore volume is above or below what I need to make isk.
Thanks for an amazing sheet - Happy |

olan2005
Outcast Heroes AAA Citizens
0
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Posted - 2012.01.02 12:07:00 -
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great tool have multiple mining accounts i use it frequently thx |

Intar Medris
Globaltech Industries Sanctuary Pact
26
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Posted - 2012.01.03 10:05:00 -
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Awesome tool. Was able to make some eye opening calculations. Figured out that by mining a minimum of 4 hrs everyday I could make 364 mil per week in High Sec, and if I ever move to Null or a WH about 840 mil per week. |

Yaris San
2
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Posted - 2012.01.13 12:57:00 -
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Great tool.
Why are some cells bright green, dark green, and light green?
"All this has happened before, and all this will happen again."
So say we all. |

Chujo Jong
Phoenix Fire Productions
7
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Posted - 2012.01.13 16:46:00 -
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Yaris San wrote:Great tool.
Why are some cells bright green, dark green, and light green?
If it's bright Green and it's under Tritanium, that's because that's what give the most Tritanium.
Hence Why Veldspar gives you the most Tritanium, the next shade down from the brightest is the next highest ore that gives Tritanium...
Same for all other ores |

Debby Baker
DARK ORCHESTRA
0
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Posted - 2012.01.13 17:37:00 -
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Awesome tool, tyvm! |

Saracha
11
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Posted - 2012.02.23 04:16:00 -
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This is one of the greatest tools I have ever found for EVE, I consider it to be the equivalent of what EFT is for PVP for miners. This is an amazing tool that I would recommend to anyone. It has a high usability, very versatile and has many great feature that contribute greatly to miners. I love this tool. |

anastasia kernsky
Clan Wolf Hunters
0
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Posted - 2012.02.26 22:09:00 -
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can u put a gas price tab i some times buy gas from a null sec friends and i would like a price chart to see where i can sell my gas for the most it would go for it would be greatly appreciated also this is a great site to help me sell my refined ice that i mine thx for the great site
mining is not dead those who think it is are narrow minded i mine cuz i like to build ships for less than buying the material off the market |

Genius Optimus
Stone Circle W-Space
0
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Posted - 2012.03.17 10:51:00 -
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+1
GAS (from WH for T3 and fron k-space for Drugs) - will be greate!!! |

Raven Ether
Republic University Minmatar Republic
111
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Posted - 2012.03.18 09:43:00 -
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We love Cerlestes! |

Citizen 5618
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:11:00 -
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Very Nice Tool
Friend of mine told me about it during the week. I love the ability to see current market hub prices and decide whether I wanna refine and sell locally or compress and move it to Empire for refining and selling.
I love the 7 day trend outlook, plus the ability for 60 days. I find the 60 day trend alot more revealing and I am thankful you considered that.
Wonderful work, and keep it up, there are Miners out there that do appreciate the work you have done, and may you be blessed to continue to keep it up.
Citizen 5618 |

K1Vis
The Citadel Group Sentinel Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.03.25 23:21:00 -
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Very Clean. +1 TY |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
67
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:40:00 -
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It never ceases to amaze me how people keep giving such valuable information for free.  http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures! |

Raven Ether
Republic University Minmatar Republic
118
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Posted - 2012.03.31 18:45:00 -
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Friendly bump for a great service. +1 |

Justin Cody
T.A.L.O.N. Company Psychotic Tendencies.
24
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Posted - 2012.03.31 20:54:00 -
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very nice work |

Amber Green Thorn
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:27:00 -
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Great site -- always use it (well my main does)!  |

Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
7
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Posted - 2012.04.15 15:08:00 -
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Just wanted to say thanks for this nice tool GÇô was going crazy looking through all the older alternatives that are either defunct, or require you to put in the mineral prices yourself.
So thanks very much 
... oh, and +1 for the Gas suggestion! Would be a nice addition  |

Katerwaul
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.15 17:46:00 -
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This is an impressive tool. Well done. Working with everyone to improve New Eden -- Internet Spaceships Iz Serious Business. |

Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
24
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Posted - 2012.04.23 20:41:00 -
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Congratulations on breaking the 3000 unique users a day milestone 
Looking forward to the updated version later this year  |

Styth spiting
Ion Corp.
25
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Posted - 2012.04.23 22:20:00 -
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I do love this site and have been using it for a while now. My only complaint is if you want to chance the m3 amount (under settings,) to display the isk values correctly you have to login/create a profile to "save" the selected listed prices, even though you're not saving these settings, your just setting them to display correctly (meaning not clicking save).
It would be nice to not have to create a profile to do this.
Also listing the current ore prices at the very top in a simple horizontal view would make viewing current prices and doing copy/paste so much better.
Just suggestions, but at the moment it is the best of the best. |

Lordofdarkness13
Praetorian Angels IMPERIAL LEGI0N
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 05:35:00 -
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free bump. for a great site |

Sushi Nardieu
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 07:34:00 -
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I showed this to other industrial characters and they like it too |

Camios
Minmatar Bread Corporation
98
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:34:00 -
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Your service is pretty nice and in this period it has been the best way to witness the greatest market mineral mayhem of all times.
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Kailee Athonille
Nebula Inc. Eternal Pretorian Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.04.24 12:31:00 -
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Just found this site and love it. Now I need to find where to sign up :) |

Dexxel Farcry
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
1
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:00:00 -
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Cerlestes wrote:http://ore.cerlestes.de Check it out! Already 1500 EVE players are using it every day! What is it?My Ore Table isn't just another one of theese refining charts...
- It's keeping it's prices automatically up to date
- You can configure it's values as you wish and even set your own prices
- You can create a profile (no password needed) to save those values and share them with other people
- It's completely sortable - you can even sort by multiple columns at the same time
- It will show you a 7 day market history of the five major trading hubs, plus a 30 day history of the Jita prices
- It also features ice and drone alloys, including ice product prices
- It has a mining timer, which can play a sound in an interval defined by you (requires Adobe Flash - won't work in the ingame browser)
Give it a try and leave a comment, please  Thanks and fly safe! Cerlestes
The old forum's thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=768417
I just wanted to thank you for this little gem you've created, I use it every single day, as do all the memebrs of my alt industry corp.
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Camios
Minmatar Bread Corporation
99
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Posted - 2012.04.24 21:53:00 -
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Some suggestions:
The style of the site is very good and probably it is suitable to show all the data regarding moon minerals too. An useful additional information to have could be the volume traded. Your graphs could contain that information too.
I consider your service not only a good site to watch, but also a historical attestation of the magnificence of the EVE market, in a smart suit.
So, in short, you could
- include moon minerals - include information on the volume traded.
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Th0rII
Asgard Empire Wing
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:06:00 -
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Cerlestes is the bestest! 
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Sephanor
Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team
5
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:08:00 -
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Just wanted to say your site rocks, i've used it for a while now and will continue now that mining is becoming more important.
Keep up the good work :) |

Klacan
CompleXion Industries CompleXion Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:46:00 -
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I love it, :) |

Paracetamol BaoVo
xell network seven
0
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:19:00 -
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No ****, checking http://ore.cerlestes.de is the first thing i do after waking up in the morning. |

Zetaomega333
HIFI INDUSTRIAL ROL.Citizens
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:09:00 -
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Looks like people dumped thier investments early |

Kandreath
De Re Metallica Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
39
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Posted - 2012.04.28 02:00:00 -
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Yeah this is pretty good. The layout is nice. Bookmarked and it my replace the out of date one I use today!
Thanks for keeping the profiles password free! My head will explode if I need to remember one more password at least 8 characters long with a mix of alphabets and numbers and special characters with no recurring characters blah blah blah. |

Gingelmesh
Flashpoint Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.04.28 03:03:00 -
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just here to say, that your ore table is by far the most complete and easy table i have found, and i hope that you continue to improve it towards the future! |

Smegskull
British Federation Sleepless Knights Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.04.29 10:05:00 -
[45] - Quote
Would it be possible to add a column for the value of the ore unprocessed as i have noticed recently that even with my high refining skill some of the ores sell for more than the minerals in them. |

Naso Gomez
31
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:42:00 -
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Love this thing, thanks for making it. |

Altair Raja
Colonial Marines EVE Division Villore Accords
3
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Posted - 2012.04.30 00:08:00 -
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Loved that site when i used to use my Hulk. and if i ever clean off the dust Ill be sure to use that site again AFK cloaking doesn't earn anything, so it needs a buff! |

Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
31
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Posted - 2012.05.02 16:40:00 -
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Thanks for all the replies and especially all of those ideas! I'm going to consider every single one and start working on a completely reworked and improved version to come later this year. Some of the features I'm thinking of:
- No more profiles required to store settings, but: Non-profile-settings are going to be temporarily stored in the client, and thus lost after the browser tab/window is closed. If you want to save them, you will still have to create a profile.
- Gas-Mining: I've been thinking on this for a while and I'm not sure how to implement it into the current website layout, since you're already mining the final form and don't need to refine the gases into something else. But I'll further investigate.
- Embeddable Gadget for your websites: It will show the current mineral or ice product prices plus the top ore to mine.
- Formulas: You can enter formulas like you do in Excel, that access the current prices also used by the site. Those are saved in your profile and thus are permanent.
- Localisation: English, German, Russian and French. Maybe more.
- Many other features and improvements. Stay tuned!
Thanks again :)
Regards, cerlestes |

anastasia kernsky
Clan Wolf Hunters
0
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Posted - 2012.05.03 03:00:00 -
[49] - Quote
cant wait to see how u change it 
mining is on rise so this will help people to get the amount that there ore, ice and gas is worth and where to drop the mats off at keep up the good work  |

Zetaomega333
HIFI INDUSTRIAL ROL.Citizens
0
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Posted - 2012.05.03 11:09:00 -
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There has been alot of spikes the past 2 days making this give very false readouts, just yesterday Merc was worth 22 billion isk a can. Any way to keep this from happening. |

Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
33
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:03:00 -
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Zetaomega333 wrote:There has been alot of spikes the past 2 days making this give very false readouts, just yesterday Merc was worth 22 billion isk a can. Any way to keep this from happening.
Yeah, as I pointed out on the market trend page of the website, this happened due to some changes by EVE Central. I've already fixed that now and even improved the method of reading the prices. Formerly It used to calculate an average from the 10 lowest prices, but now it's using an average from the 10 prices around the 95th percentile of all prices, which makes it much more realistic and resistant against dumping prices.
Regards, cerlestes |

John Quant
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.27 05:18:00 -
[52] - Quote
Best thing for mining around! Waiting to see for new version. 
One thing I would like to see in your new version is raw ore/ice volume. Cause sometimes for manufacturing I don't just buy minerals, I buy ore and then reprocess it. Atm I can easily calculate back how much m3 ore I need to get required amount of mineral, but I still have to look up ore volume to calculate how much ore units to buy. It would be really nice to see the volume next to ore/ice. 
Hope I said this clear enough. And Keep up this awesome work you do! |

49 marshon
Procyon Resources Aurora Irae
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:28:00 -
[53] - Quote
I absolutely love your site! Just a few weeks ago I was trying to do this manually.
What would I like to see in an upgrade you ask?
Info for Hek - I'm not sure but I think it's a bigger hub than some listed
A table for gas mining
fix the market trend links
Thanks, I will probably think of maore later
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Hirotsugu Qoylurani
Mechanized Assault and Exploration Services Silent Infinity
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 09:43:00 -
[54] - Quote
Awesome tool, thank you. In your tutorial you write that you can read the charts with a history of 7 or 30 days. How do you switch to 30 days? Or make it a feature for the next release:
- Market price history for last 7, 30, 90 and 180 days.
- Make trade hubs selectable, e.g. only Jita and Amarr at a time
- +1 for the raw ore price information mentioned above. Another tool I use let me enter the price for Kernite and Omber for example.
Keep it up! |

Gingelmesh
Flashpoint Industries Imperial Hull Tankers
0
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Posted - 2012.06.20 01:23:00 -
[55] - Quote
i really like the idea of Bulk Ore Prices, that is to say un-refined!
Gingelmesh |

Duchy Duke
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.21 13:44:00 -
[56] - Quote
Quote:I wondered what features you want to see later this year. Do you have a good idea? Tell me in the official EVE Online forum thread! Hi Cerlestes, thanks for the great tool. I use it constantly. 
I have a suggestion. I believe others have mentioned it, but In the ISK column we have the price per 1/M3 of Ore (probably useful to Mining Ops and ORCA pilots), but not:
- Price per unit of Ore (useful for raw mineral traders. miners selling their Ore or haulers buying it).
If that change was made I'd never have to leave your site . Currently I end up going between your site (speed and readability) and this Google Doc's spreadsheet (which contains a column called 'ore value').
Thanks again! |

Jack Haydn
Valar Morghulis. Gentlemen's Agreement
15
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Posted - 2012.06.24 13:04:00 -
[57] - Quote
Let us add our own items to observe. What makes your tool so awesome is your algorithm (95th percentile) and the style of your graphs. The data comes from EVE-C anyway, so it would be awesome if we could have a profile where we can add additional items to observe with the tools you have. That's very valuable for traders, not only miners.
Awesome website anyway, thanks a lot for this! |

david dowling
The Rising Stars The Volition Cult
0
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Posted - 2012.06.27 07:55:00 -
[58] - Quote
love the tool would advanced moon materials be an option |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
97
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Posted - 2012.06.29 15:34:00 -
[59] - Quote
suggestion for a fix; make sure the prices are accurate, being in null i often have minerals moved to jita and i use the tool to check jita prices, when i contracted some minerals to a friend he informed me it was above jita price as your tool was woefully inaccurate.
kinda defeats the entire purpose of the tool when the isk values are wrong. for example right now in jita both buy and sell orders are below what you've got listed as jita price for megacyte. |

Gingelmesh
Flashpoint Industries Imperial Hull Tankers
1
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Posted - 2012.07.02 03:07:00 -
[60] - Quote
Dave stark wrote:suggestion for a fix; make sure the prices are accurate, being in null i often have minerals moved to jita and i use the tool to check jita prices, when i contracted some minerals to a friend he informed me it was above jita price as your tool was woefully inaccurate.
kinda defeats the entire purpose of the tool when the isk values are wrong. for example right now in jita both buy and sell orders are below what you've got listed as jita price for megacyte.
You have to remember, this tool is only as accurate as Eve-central.com is, if eve-central is out, then so is this tool
While i would love is CCP exported the information of the basic trade hubs, right now it relys on use submissions, and as such might be out of date! |

AnzacPaul
Invictus Australis Northern Coalition.
107
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Posted - 2012.07.02 06:24:00 -
[61] - Quote
Duchy Duke wrote:Quote:I wondered what features you want to see later this year. Do you have a good idea? Tell me in the official EVE Online forum thread! Hi Cerlestes, thanks for the great tool. I use it constantly.  I have a suggestion. I believe others have mentioned it, but In the ISK column we have the price per 1/M3 of Ore (probably useful to Mining Ops and ORCA pilots), but not: - Price per unit of Ore (useful for raw mineral traders. miners selling their Ore or haulers buying it).
If that change was made I'd never have to leave your site  . Currently I end up going between your site (speed and readability) and this Google Doc's spreadsheet (which contains a column called 'ore value'). Thanks again!
+1 for this, use this for my alt all the time.
Thanks Cerlestes. |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
104
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Posted - 2012.07.02 06:38:00 -
[62] - Quote
Gingelmesh wrote:Dave stark wrote:suggestion for a fix; make sure the prices are accurate, being in null i often have minerals moved to jita and i use the tool to check jita prices, when i contracted some minerals to a friend he informed me it was above jita price as your tool was woefully inaccurate.
kinda defeats the entire purpose of the tool when the isk values are wrong. for example right now in jita both buy and sell orders are below what you've got listed as jita price for megacyte. You have to remember, this tool is only as accurate as Eve-central.com is, if eve-central is out, then so is this tool While i would love is CCP exported the information of the basic trade hubs, right now it relys on use submissions, and as such might be out of date!
to be honest i've given up on the tool now, every time i check jita on my alt the price is way, way off. it's never close to the buy or sell orders in jita so i have no idea what it's being calculated from.
i suggest finding a more reliable source of information. |

Stetson Hollander
Limelight Enterprises
2
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Posted - 2012.07.04 18:28:00 -
[63] - Quote
Is there any documentation that would help me use the index'es for a google doc spreadsheet. Im just learning how to do this and having a daily pull or whatever is a reasonable time to pull the information would be handy,.
Also maybe from the perspective of someone new to spreadsheets because i got into eve and now need to use them :P
thank you for such a great tool! |

Daya Audeles
VEB Fortschritt Kosmos - Glueck Auf Advanced Combine of Miners and Explorers
1
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Posted - 2012.07.05 15:40:00 -
[64] - Quote
Hey,
I just wanted to say thanx very much for this nice tool. I always check, before I go out there and suck the hell out of this roids.
So keep on the good work.
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Nha Su
Gateless Gate Research Institute A Gathering of Hungry Ghosts
0
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Posted - 2012.07.07 03:54:00 -
[65] - Quote
Thanks for the great tool.
A little typo in the Pyroxeres row. It's "Viscous" not "Vicious" pyroxeres. : ) |

Kailean
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.07.07 20:06:00 -
[66] - Quote
Nha Su wrote:Thanks for the great tool.
A little typo in the Pyroxeres row. It's "Viscous" not "Vicious" pyroxeres. : )
Aww, I liked that typo. Not that I ever mine, but if I did I'd totally go for the vicious ones first. |

Lady Goldfinch
Sinister Elite Black Legion.
0
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Posted - 2012.07.08 10:27:00 -
[67] - Quote
These EVE tools need to be added to App store so I can browse them on iPadand update myself while at work, and have my plans ready in the afternoon. |

Jack Haydn
Valar Morghulis. Gentlemen's Agreement
15
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:25:00 -
[68] - Quote
Dave stark wrote:Gingelmesh wrote:Dave stark wrote:suggestion for a fix; make sure the prices are accurate, being in null i often have minerals moved to jita and i use the tool to check jita prices, when i contracted some minerals to a friend he informed me it was above jita price as your tool was woefully inaccurate.
kinda defeats the entire purpose of the tool when the isk values are wrong. for example right now in jita both buy and sell orders are below what you've got listed as jita price for megacyte. You have to remember, this tool is only as accurate as Eve-central.com is, if eve-central is out, then so is this tool While i would love is CCP exported the information of the basic trade hubs, right now it relys on use submissions, and as such might be out of date! to be honest i've given up on the tool now, every time i check jita on my alt the price is way, way off. it's never close to the buy or sell orders in jita so i have no idea what it's being calculated from. i suggest finding a more reliable source of information.
The price shown is the 95th percentile of the entire value for the good, not the lowest sell order.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentile
Cerlestes, might be worth noting the 95th percentile thing permanently and prominently, as some may have not caught your green information message when you switched the algorithm to that. |

anishamora
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
4
|
Posted - 2012.07.12 08:06:00 -
[69] - Quote
Whenever I take a break from EVE and want to come back your site is the first I visit. I don't know why but I do that every time. I guess it helps me to get a very broad overview of the market or something. Or maybe it's a sort of ritual :))
Still, one of the most useful EVE tool out there. |

Sten Biller
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.07.12 11:58:00 -
[70] - Quote
Jack Haydn wrote:Dave stark wrote:to be honest i've given up on the tool now, every time i check jita on my alt the price is way, way off. it's never close to the buy or sell orders in jita so i have no idea what it's being calculated from. i suggest finding a more reliable source of information. The price shown is the 95th percentile of the entire value for the good, not the lowest sell order. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PercentileCerlestes, might be worth noting the 95th percentile thing permanently and prominently, as some may have not caught your green information message when you switched the algorithm to that. I also have issuse with Jita being alot higher for some ores, & even other ores being enough higher than Jita just a few jumps away!
How about adding filtering (by region drop down, or multi-select system if you can, or at minimum the hubs + avg like you are tracking now? Also, how about a direct link from your chart row names to EVE-Central like so: Pyroxeres ?
|

Duensch
Gambrini
0
|
Posted - 2012.07.14 11:38:00 -
[71] - Quote
First: Thanks for that awesome tool. Used it to maximize my incoming the last weeks :) Also the mining timer is cool.
But , I really must know, which prices you use for the charts and so on... Could it be, you use the sell orders instead of the buy orders? So that is quite confusing for people like me, who just want to sell their stuff and not making sell orders for it.
And that direct link to eve-central for ore, ice, and their refined materials would be awesome!
Regards,
Duensch |

Raiz Nhell
DEEP CORPS
152
|
Posted - 2012.08.23 00:48:00 -
[72] - Quote
Love the tool... Thanks heaps, works a treat...
One suggestion I would make is to include the market volume in the Market Trends tab. Don't know if its possible from the eve central data though.
Would allow us to see the biggest movers and when someone decides to play silly buggers with mineral volumes... There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |

Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
44
|
Posted - 2012.10.10 19:16:00 -
[73] - Quote
Hey guys!
Thanks so much for the ideas posted in this thread. Let me go through them.
Quote:It would be really nice to see the volume next to ore/ice This is a great idea! I'll even add two choosable displays to the ISK column: "Value of one full ore batch" and "Value of one ore unit".
The upcoming version will enable you to choose from all regions and the top 10-ish trade hubs, which will of course include Hek and some others asked for.
Quote:A table for gas mining No. I finally made the decision not to add this, since it has nothing to do with refining. I'm working on another project tho, that will give you market-insight on gas too. (see three points below)
Quote:Market price history for last 7, 30, 90 and 180 days. The upcoming version will enable you to select these ranges, plus 360 and 720 days.
Quote:Bulk Ore Prices, that is to say un-refined Another great idea - going to be included in the upcoming version. |

Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
44
|
Posted - 2012.10.10 19:17:00 -
[74] - Quote
Quote:Let us add our own items to observe would advanced moon materials be an option? This won't be featured in the ore charts, but I'm working on the backbone for another project that'll do exactly this job. It will constantly suck in the current market data available in the EMDR network (EVE-Central, EVE Mon), and will feature not only 95th percentile, but a wide variety of values for any given moment of every item buyable in the market in every reagion and trade hub, with not more than 5 minutes delay. Sounds awesome? It is. But it still will take a lot of time in development, since we're talking about hundreds of gigabytes of data here, which is completely new to me (and probably most other programmers) and will be a real challenge. But I'm sure you'll see a first complete version around mid-2013.
Quote:make sure the prices are accurate How about adding filtering by region ... + avg See above point. The next version will give you more control about accuracy in value and location.
Quote:Is there any documentation that would help me use the index'es for a google doc spreadsheet. I don't exactly know what you mean. If you want to embed the ore table's data into a (google) spreadsheet, I don't think it's possible.
Quote:A little typo in the Pyroxeres row. It's "Viscous" not "Vicious" pyroxeres. : ) Aww, I liked that typo. Not that I ever mine, but if I did I'd totally go for the vicious ones first. Hahaha. This made me laugh a lot. :) Thanks for spotting this hilarious typo!
Quote:These EVE tools need to be added to App store Nope. I'm working on a mobile-firendly layout for the next version - but I can't promise that. |

Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
44
|
Posted - 2012.10.10 19:17:00 -
[75] - Quote
Quote:Could it be, you use the sell orders instead of the buy orders? Yes. Currently, the 98th percentile of the sell prices is used and shown. As mentioned, this behaviour is going to be selectable.
Quote:include the market volume This was already mentioned and will be done.
Keep the ideas coming :) I really appreciate them.
Regards, cerlestes
PS: A big shout out goes to HanFox, who created a GreaseMonkey script for the Ore Table that makes the small market history graphs appear bigger. Thank you very much for this - this feature will appear in the upcoming new version. https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/145783 |

CataCourier
Asha' Man Corp
6
|
Posted - 2012.10.10 20:03:00 -
[76] - Quote
You, Sir, are a Gentleman and a Scholar. Thank you and keep up the good work! |

Julien Brellier
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
|
Posted - 2012.10.11 10:57:00 -
[77] - Quote
Oustanding  |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1041
|
Posted - 2012.10.11 13:30:00 -
[78] - Quote
You are looking for ideas?
A plot of the highest buy and lowest sell, both shown at once, both showing intra-day (say every 15 minutes) data. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Leeloo Alizee
Orion Constellation Inc.
1
|
Posted - 2012.10.11 14:16:00 -
[79] - Quote
Link not working today, is it upgrading or is it just down?  |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
924
|
Posted - 2012.10.11 16:35:00 -
[80] - Quote
Leeloo Alizee wrote:Link not working today, is it upgrading or is it just down? 
Has not worked the last 6 hours.................. |

Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
47
|
Posted - 2012.10.11 16:54:00 -
[81] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Has not worked the last 6 hours.................. 
Looks like the MySQL-server crashed tonight, but could recover, and then crashed again at 12:17 UTC. I don't know yet what was causing it, but I'll take care.
Sorry once again for any inconveniences 
Regards, cerlestes |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
924
|
Posted - 2012.10.11 17:21:00 -
[82] - Quote
Cerlestes wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Has not worked the last 6 hours..................  Looks like the MySQL-server crashed tonight, but could recover, and then crashed again at 12:17 UTC. I don't know yet what was causing it, but I'll take care. Sorry once again for any inconveniences  Regards, cerlestes
Working for me at this timestamp. |

Ondralas Vatar
Cursed Advocates Inc. Massa Interitum
0
|
Posted - 2012.10.11 22:09:00 -
[83] - Quote
Table seems to be working, but I can't get the price column to show any values, whether I'm trying to use the eve-central data or not. |

Merik Sylvanus
NovaTech Universal Freemen Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.10.13 11:28:00 -
[84] - Quote
Ondralas Vatar wrote:Table seems to be working, but I can't get the price column to show any values, whether I'm trying to use the eve-central data or not.
Same problem here at the moment.
Thanks much for this tool, I use it every day! |

Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
52
|
Posted - 2012.12.31 17:24:00 -
[85] - Quote
Sorry for those major server problems I had a few months ago! To this day I can't surely say what caused them, but I got rid of a lot of potential problems since then and currently it's running stable.
Again, sorry for any inconveniences caused by this!
Best regards and a happy new year! cerlestes |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3229
|
Posted - 2012.12.31 20:15:00 -
[86] - Quote
I've been trying here and there to adjust settings on your amazing page, but it always tells me to use a profile and all that yet I have never been able to figure out how to make that happen.
I won't bore you with describing my attempts, but I'm just not sure what I am missing. I can't even change the volume designation.
Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde |

Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
52
|
Posted - 2012.12.31 21:10:00 -
[87] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've been trying here and there to adjust settings on your amazing page, but it always tells me to use a profile and all that yet I have never been able to figure out how to make that happen.
You can create a profile by logging in with one on the top left of the page, above the logo!
I'll make that clearer in the new version, i promise! :) |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3233
|
Posted - 2013.01.01 01:23:00 -
[88] - Quote
Cerlestes wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I've been trying here and there to adjust settings on your amazing page, but it always tells me to use a profile and all that yet I have never been able to figure out how to make that happen.
You can create a profile by logging in with one on the top left of the page, above the logo! I'll make that clearer in the new version, i promise! :)
I did enter one, but nothing happens. After re-entering, still can't manipulate anything. Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde |

Jophes Mannhoh
ElmDrizzEnd League
3
|
Posted - 2013.02.09 19:48:00 -
[89] - Quote
Cerlestes wrote:Quote:Bulk Ore Prices, that is to say un-refined Another great idea - going to be included in the upcoming version.
Did this end up making it in? I'm having a hell of a time deducing which value is for raw vs refined. |

Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
65
|
Posted - 2013.02.10 16:52:00 -
[90] - Quote
Jophes Mannhoh wrote:Cerlestes wrote:Quote:Bulk Ore Prices, that is to say un-refined Another great idea - going to be included in the upcoming version. Did this end up making it in? I'm having a hell of a time deducing which value is for raw vs refined.
Currently all values on the site are about minerals, not the ores themselves! You will be able to show prices for each ore instead of it's minerals in the upcoming version. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3497
|
Posted - 2013.02.19 17:54:00 -
[91] - Quote
Looks like the site is down. Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Cerlestes
Veldspar Trading Company.
65
|
Posted - 2013.02.19 19:16:00 -
[92] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Looks like the site is down.
Yup, my bad. Was messing around with the database server yesterday and it seems like I've failed. It's up again! |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3497
|
Posted - 2013.02.19 22:01:00 -
[93] - Quote
Cerlestes wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Looks like the site is down. Yup, my bad. Was messing around with the database server yesterday and it seems like I've failed. It's up again!
 Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Hachre
Dorfs United
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 03:38:00 -
[94] - Quote
Great stuff, thanks for this site :D |

Kor'el Izia
35
|
Posted - 2013.05.05 02:55:00 -
[95] - Quote
Here's an idea if you're bored Cerlestes 
Since the launch of retribution have you thought of adding a "gas" tab? |

Elric Darkmoor
Axiom Sprocket
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.09 12:38:00 -
[96] - Quote
Any idea If/when the site will be updated for the new Ore/mineral compositions since Odessay |

Dave Stark
3128
|
Posted - 2013.06.09 12:54:00 -
[97] - Quote
Elric Darkmoor wrote:Any idea If/when the site will be updated for the new Ore/mineral compositions since Odessay
pretty sure it has been. when i go to the site it has a nice big notice at the top saying it has. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
15885
|
Posted - 2013.06.09 13:08:00 -
[98] - Quote
Whoever thought Veldspar would be worth less than Omber ??  |

Dave Stark
3134
|
Posted - 2013.06.09 13:17:00 -
[99] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Whoever thought Veldspar would be worth less than Omber ?? 
i didn't, but i did say that pyrox would be better than scordite. |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
686
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 16:32:00 -
[100] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Whoever thought Veldspar would be worth less than Omber ??  i didn't, but i did say that pyrox would be better than scordite. Omber has been rising in price for a long time now. It was just so far below that it took forever to catch up. It is now an average ore, as it should be.
I am very glad to see Spodumain and Gneiss coming up too. SPOD has beaten out all high sec ores except Pyrox, it used to be worth less than Omber. |

yav at
The Magic Conch
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.11 07:33:00 -
[101] - Quote
Nice tool, thanks for your efforts Cerlestes! Quick question: are the current prices of the ore variants in ISK/m-¦ shown somewhere? I always feel the need to double check if refining is really worth it.
o7 |

Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
17
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 15:30:00 -
[102] - Quote
yav at wrote:Nice tool, thanks for your efforts Cerlestes! Quick question: are the current prices of the ore variants in ISK/m-¦ shown somewhere? I always feel the need to double check if refining is really worth it.
o7
Refined ore will always beat unrefined ore when selling for iskies. The only possible exception may be if you are selling unrefined Kernite at a storyline agents station for those who do lvl 4 storyline missions. |

Ted Cisse
Industry and Investments NZAU Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 05:09:00 -
[103] - Quote
Best site ever thanks alot man  |

Silivar Karkun
Imperium Aeternam Phantom Armada
83
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 15:42:00 -
[104] - Quote
i like your app, i always have it at hand when im doing mining ops, but i wonder, will we see an addition of gas mining tables? ,it would be interesting |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
21993
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 17:05:00 -
[105] - Quote
Silivar Karkun wrote:i like your app, i always have it at hand when im doing mining ops, but i wonder, will we see an addition of gas mining tables? ,it would be interesting
2nd-ing this idea. |

Silivar Karkun
Imperium Aeternam Phantom Armada
83
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 17:11:00 -
[106] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Silivar Karkun wrote:i like your app, i always have it at hand when im doing mining ops, but i wonder, will we see an addition of gas mining tables? ,it would be interesting 2nd-ing this idea.
TBH, his page has the bets to become the #1 industry database, just need gas and PI charts to make it complete |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39465
|
Posted - 2013.08.24 16:13:00 -
[107] - Quote
Any rationale for still keeping Ouselleart in the graph listings ? Seems to be skewing the averages lately.
Just my 2 cents worth.  |

Athelas Loraiel
StarFleet Enterprises Fatal Ascension
7
|
Posted - 2013.08.25 22:24:00 -
[108] - Quote
Wonderfull!!! Please add gas and PI charts if possible !!!
And add donations to help you out! |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
1831
|
Posted - 2013.08.25 23:13:00 -
[109] - Quote
Being the kind of guy who is far from above stealing ideas:
https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/gas.html
PI charts? What kind of charts? Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |

Robbin Sund
3
|
Posted - 2013.08.28 07:45:00 -
[110] - Quote
Nothing else to say then, thank you! +like One way trip! Why dont you drive? |

Sully O'noh
Visionary Vanguard Brothers of Tangra
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.03 00:52:00 -
[111] - Quote
Hi guys,
I use ore celestes all the time, and I think it is wonderful.
Creating now my own spreadsheets I came across something I do not understand:
According to the tutorial page of celestes 1 batch of regular Gneiss should be:
400 Gneiss (1 batch) x 5m-¦ = 2.000m-¦ x 0.069 = 138 Zydrine.
But my own calculations showed something different: 171 Zydrine Because I was in doubt I took a batch and went to the nearest outpost: http://goo.gl/x3oT3q
one batch: 133 + 38 = 171
Is there something wrong with my calculations or is there a slight slip in the table of ore celestes?
I would appreciate to get help to get my calculations right.
Thanks in advance!
Sully
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Cerlestes
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
81
|
Posted - 2013.11.03 12:04:00 -
[112] - Quote
Sully O'noh wrote: But my own calculations showed something different: 171 Zydrine
Wow... so in short terms: Never trust official CCP sites to tell you the truth about ore composition. I've just tried it and verified with another source and you're right. Gneiss contains 171 Zydrine per batch or 0.086 Zydrine per m3 instead of the 0.069 displayed on my site. I've immediately changed it now, thanks for letting me know!
Just so you see how I got this number... back in 2010 when I'd built the current version of the site, I took all refining information from the EVE Wiki, like this article about Gneiss: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Gneiss As you can see, it shows 137 Zydrine instead of 171 Zydrine.
I'm going to recheck every ore again with different sources, just to make sure.
Thanks again! cerlestes
PS: Okay, I've found another wrong value in the official wiki. Jaspet shows as yielding 259 Pyerite, but instead yields 437 Pyerite. Changed that also and will update the Wiki, if possible. |

Sully O'noh
Visionary Vanguard Brothers of Tangra
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.03 13:08:00 -
[113] - Quote
Cerlestes wrote: Thanks again! cerlestes
You're welcome.
I use your homepage all the time. It helps a lot. I think all miners know your homepage.
Glad that we could help. 'We' because I am still creating some nice google spreadsheets and I asked a corpmember to double check my formulas. His maths was correct but we got different results. So we narrowed it down and double checked again with refining a batch ourselves.
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TA5E
Void.Tech Get Off My Lawn
1
|
Posted - 2013.12.14 21:52:00 -
[114] - Quote
Awesome tool, been using it for a long time.
Would it be possible to save the secondary column sort ? I know it saves the primary sort, but not the secondary.
I.e you sort by "Found In", then by "ISK" (by holding shift), so it groups by security then by asc/desc ISK value ? |

KapiiKid Wait-For-It
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.12.27 07:00:00 -
[115] - Quote
First i wanted to thank you for such an awesome tool. I just started with EvE and the tool alone gives so much information in one place. <3 :*
but i got one Question: How can i get sound into the alarm? Everytime when the alarm tiggers the page only blinkes red. |

AAetius Retlow
Old Timers Guild Inc. Coalition of Old Timers
0
|
Posted - 2013.12.28 02:05:00 -
[116] - Quote
I don't believe the low/null sec ores have been updated since the trit values were increased in some ores.... |

Cerlestes
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
94
|
Posted - 2013.12.28 22:46:00 -
[117] - Quote
AAetius Retlow wrote:I don't believe the low/null sec ores have been updated since the trit values were increased in some ores....
The changes from Odyssey have been implemented right on patch day, so everything is up to date.
KapiiKid Wait-For-It wrote:How can i get sound into the alarm?
The timer widget is something I've never really looked into improving. It originally had sounds, but due to some problems I've replaced them with the red blinking. I'll think about adding an option for sound in the upcoming version, thank you.
TA5E wrote:Would it be possible to save the secondary column sort ?
I'll fix this in the upcoming version, thanks for telling me ;) |

Jack Muutara
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.07 04:57:00 -
[118] - Quote
Great tool, is it possible to have XML export added, so that people can import the prices straight into excel or Google docs, and use them for more purposes than you could possibly cover alone |

Cerlestes
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
94
|
Posted - 2014.01.18 20:23:00 -
[119] - Quote
Jack Muutara wrote:Great tool, is it possible to have XML export added, so that people can import the prices straight into excel or Google docs, and use them for more purposes than you could possibly cover alone
I'm using this API myself: http://eve-central.com/home/develop.html You should be able to use it with mentioned programs/websites as well.
cerl |
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