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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.24 10:12:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 24/04/2006 10:15:34
My Radeon 9700 Non-Pro has served me well for quite a while. Hell when I got it, it cost 200 dollars--imagine that, a 9700 non-pro being 200 dollars off Newegg.
Today, I started EVE up, and the whole thing artifacted like crazy. It was like an explosion of polygons.
Then the mouse started artifacting. Everything did. I aimed an 18" fan at full power at the card and it did nothing. I figured it was dead.
So I pulled it out and figured I'd take it apart. I spent 30 minutes getting the tightest screws in the world off of the HSF, but as I did, I noticed a lot of white powder everywhere. I blew it off and wiped off the rest... and then when the HSF came off, I noticed one simple problem: no thermal paste on the chip, at all. Zip. Zilch. Zero. It had all been boiled off during years of overuse and overclocking.
I go grab my stick of Ceramique, cover it with paste, put the HSF back on, put the card back in, and it works perfectly.
Now I can keep this out of date card for another 5 years. 
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.04.24 11:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Dark Shikari
Now I can keep this out of date card for another 5 years.
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Hermia
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Posted - 2006.04.24 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dark S
no thermal paste on the chip
ouch,
of all the heatsinks ive ever bought, they never seem to put on enough goo.
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Astrum Ludus
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Posted - 2006.04.24 11:21:00 -
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You know my brother had the exact same thing on his 6600GT, he did what you did and it fixed it as well :)
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SavageThrash
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Posted - 2006.04.24 11:49:00 -
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My radeon 9550 is slowly dieing on me hehe.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.04.24 12:03:00 -
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I have a 9500Pro and a 9800Pro, both of which have their HSF's dead on me :(
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Dogma2003
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Posted - 2006.04.24 12:14:00 -
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I had the same thing happen to my Ati 9600XT. Before I removed the original HSF, I went and purchased this monster.KWVC-3(Kingwin Super Heat Pipe Video Card Cooler) The price is about 24$ USD.
Video card works like a charm now, is noiseless and I don't have to worry about the crappy little fan burning out.
Tim Taylor from Home Improvement would be proud! LOL
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anister
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Posted - 2006.04.24 12:18:00 -
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I had to buy a new gfx card simply because i can't get the f'ing fan off my 9700, no screws or clips or anything, it's as if it's spot welded on =\
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.24 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: anister
I had to buy a new gfx card simply because i can't get the f'ing fan off my 9700, no screws or clips or anything, it's as if it's spot welded on =\
Its probably superglued. You have to pull very, very hard
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Sharcy
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Posted - 2006.04.24 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
I go grab my stick of Ceramique, cover it with paste,
Tempting... way too tempting... 
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mamolian
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Posted - 2006.04.24 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Now I can keep this out of date card for another 5 years.
*kisses x800xt PE* and secretly thinks the same*
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.04.24 18:09:00 -
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Hey, at least your stock sink worked at that start, if I had been still part fo the air-cooling peons id have had to get a new sink right away for my X1900XTX - 93c at load anyone?
Anyway, most TIM dries out over time. Even AS5/Ceramique turns to powder after 5 years. So does TIM1 between the die and IHS on AMD CPUs.
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Jolted Meridim
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Posted - 2006.04.24 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jolted Meridim on 24/04/2006 18:26:08
Originally by: keepiru
Hey, at least your stock sink worked at that start, if I had been still part fo the air-cooling peons id have had to get a new sink right away for my X1900XTX - 93c at load anyone?
My card used to go up over 100 at load, then I pulled a ball of dust the size of a cat out of the fan it it was back down to ~60. 
I seriously wish I'd taken a pic of that dustball though.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:40:00 -
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Its dead, Jim.
/installs old TI200.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:41:00 -
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Awww. Guess you caught it too late and it got cooked, huh? =/
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
Awww. Guess you caught it too late and it got cooked, huh? =/
Yeah it seems dead for good. The TI200 is working fine, but its a lot slower... EVE seems to be more graphics-card dependant with its newer engine.
What do you suggest I get? I'm not looking to spend more than 250 USD, preferably, and I need an AGP card. Preferably one at least twice as fast as my old one, if not three times.
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: anister
I had to buy a new gfx card simply because i can't get the f'ing fan off my 9700, no screws or clips or anything, it's as if it's spot welded on =\
Its probably superglued. You have to pull very, very hard
ive heard that sometimes putting the card into the freezer for awhile can help make the thermal epoxies used by OEMs brittle enough to just pop the HSF off. hard part is cleaning the chip, because an HSF can be done with a razer blade. and its allways good to optimaly clean before new compound(arctic Silver epoxy has good reviews).
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Laocoon on 24/04/2006 22:09:48
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Its dead, Jim.
/installs old TI200.
You think THAT'S bad...
Oh my god! You killed the UI!
(And no, the UI WASN'T turned off. ... )
/me pats 9550 'Ol' Faithful'
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Laocoon
Edited by: Laocoon on 24/04/2006 22:09:48
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Its dead, Jim.
/installs old TI200.
You think THAT'S bad...
Oh my god! You killed the UI!
(And no, the UI WASN'T turned off. ... )
/me pats 9550 'Ol' Faithful'
That was the only screenie I managed to get before it died altogether.
There were other times when it literally had thousands upon thousands of flashing multicolored triangles across the screen
P.S. I've looked around and the best deals I have found are:
X800XL for 183 including shipping
X800GTO for 160 including shipping
(both from Newegg)
What do you guys think of these?
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: keepiru on 24/04/2006 22:42:38
6800GS?
Otherwise id go for the X800GTO. If you can manage to find a GTO2, you can soft-mod it for 16 pipelines (like an XT). Or maybe a 6600GT?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
Edited by: keepiru on 24/04/2006 22:42:38
6800GS?
Otherwise id go for the X800GTO. If you can manage to find a GTO2, you can soft-mod it for 16 pipelines (like an XT). Or maybe a 6600GT?
The 6600GT is too slow--it wouldn't be much of an upgrade from my massively overclocked 9700 (for a while I actually ran the core at 9800XT speeds... might be why the thermal paste vaporized...). The 6800GS AGP seems unavailable for less than 250, let alone 200 dollars.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: keepiru on 24/04/2006 23:05:38
Edited by: keepiru on 24/04/2006 23:04:14
X800 it is then. Some GTOs OC incredibly well - go better than the XL - but im not too sure which one youd wanna get... id go on xtremesystems.org and ask, tbh.
anandtech price guides ftw:
http://anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=2714&p=3
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.24 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?pid=12993
Sweeeeeettttt
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Falke Chasseur
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Posted - 2006.04.24 23:22:00 -
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This here moderator runs exactly the same card as the OP, Radeon 9700 Non-Pro. However, I have softmodded mine to a Pro and am using the Omega Drivers.
Still getting to be time to upgrade though.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.04.24 23:29:00 -
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Yeah, great card... you should be able to soft-mod it to 16 pipelines, and it ocs very nicely from what im told.
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Ixion
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:21:00 -
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Contrary to common intuition, too MUCH thermal paste between components can actually hurt performance, and perhaps your GPU, as well. Thermal paste is designed to fill in the small rough spots, surface imperfections, and gaps between the chip and the heatsink. It is NOT glue, and more is NOT better. You want as much of the surface of the HS to touch the chip as possible, the paste removes inefficient micro-air pockets, and transferrs heat, just not as well as the actual HS...
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Xrak
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:31:00 -
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yea GTO2 is probably best for you. But I wouldnt expect a double in performance..
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Now I can keep this out of date card for another 5 years.
Or until the EVE graphics update anyways.
Not that the update will affect the forums.
Originally by: Dark Shikari
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Vanamonde
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:58:00 -
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Quad SLI config?.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:59:00 -
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Hate to see the temps on those 4 cards unless you watercool =/
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