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Serena Sinclair
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:05:00 -
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I'll pay 10 mil to the first person who can definitivly prove or disprove if a module called "Power Diagnostic Unit" has ever existed in the game. Read below to see conditions on payment.
My goal for this thread is to attempt to discover whether or not the module currently named "Power Diagnostic System" was ever officially named "Power Diagnostic Unit" in the game.
New people are coming to the game and getting confused when they see PDU while reading the threads in this forum or when conversing with others in the game. A typical reply to that new person is something along the lines of "PDS used to be called 'Power Diagnostic Units' in the past but at some point CCP patched and it changed." Often the person explaing also boasts for being an 'old school' player remembering times way before the new players time.
Some people believe there never was a PDU module. Some people believe that a PDU was renamed to PDS in the RMR patch (which msut be wrong). Some people beleive there is a PDU in the game right now 
I'm just trying to find the facts.
Here's the facts I have currently:
- There is no module currently in the game called "Power Diagnostic Unit"
- This thread proves the existance of a module called "Power Diagnostic System" in June 03 -- 1 month after release
I'm not trying to convert people from using PDU. I'm just wanting to know the truth if there ever has been a "Power Diagnostic Unit" module. If a PDU has ever existed then it must have been at some point in Beta through the 1st month of release.
Conditions:
I will only accept the following as proof.
- A link to official patch notes on Eve-Online.com stating "Power Diagnostic Unit" was renamed to "Power Diagnostic System"
- A link to a thread where CCP member has already explained this, definitivly
- A comment from a CCP member on this thread
The 10 million will go to the first person who produces one of the above.
If a CCP member comments and explains this first then the 10 mil will go to the very next person who comments and also links to a eve-online forum thread where they have have correctly used the terminology "Power Diagnostic System" or "PDS" in a thread that is at least 1 year old. It must be the exact same character posting now and in the past. No alts considered.
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:10:00 -
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sticky!
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fmercury
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:13:00 -
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Why did you find it neccecary to post this thread with an alt?
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:16:00 -
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Who gives a ****?
go find a better use for your time.
sgb
P.S. I'm old school. And I call it PDU. Get over it.
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Idara
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:21:00 -
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Oh for ****'s sake...
I call em PDU's as well, and now I'm going to make a point of it because I want to **** everyone off who can't fathom the fact that an acronym has become common usage...you wanna pay anyone who proves that HAC's were in the game before they got changed to HAS's? AF instead of AS?
In closing...
PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU
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Natsuki
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:21:00 -
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june 28 2003
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Natsuki
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:23:00 -
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10m pls
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btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 24/04/2006 22:24:04
 Originally by: Natsuki
june 28 2003
That isn't the pre-castor interface. Screenshot doesn't go back far enough. Go back much farther, when you could customize your ship default values.
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Natsuki
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: Natsuki on 24/04/2006 22:25:03
Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Originally by: Natsuki
june 28 2003
That isn't the pre-castor interface. Screenshot doesn't go back far enough.
LOL WTF ARE YOU SMOKING.
This is castor UI
and you screenshot is beta, which isn't really what we are talking about.
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CptEagle
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:25:00 -
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Cmon, stop wasting you're time on this.
PDU > PDS... It just sounds way better/cooler.
If someones talking about a torp launcher you know exactly that he means a Siege launcher. This thread sucks...
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.04.24 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 24/04/2006 22:30:29
Typo fixed on the UI naming. Quote:
and you screenshot is beta, which isn't really what we are talking about.
Beta is not excluded, so beta screenshots (don't have any specifically showing the PDU) are still applicable to prove that the PDU version of the PDS version did exist.
Your screenshot doesn't show beta, therefore you were not in the timeframe of the PDU.
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qyros
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Posted - 2006.04.24 23:30:00 -
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The funny thing about that issue is, it shows how far the "street credibility" nonsense on this forum is going.
- OMG, I use secret 1337 abbreviations. And I even know the explanation why the abbreviation exists, you n00b!!!1111 -
The only reason why this abbreviation still exists, is its inherent 1337 factor (and what it differs from hac etc.).
And that¦s also the reason why I for myself will never use it.
Apart from that I don¦t give a **** how and if the abbreviation is used on this forum. It¦s still hilarious.
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.04.24 23:37:00 -
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Yes, PDU was renamed to PDS, but it's still a PDU for the most of us  I'm not calling them PDS even if you pay me 10m
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2006.04.24 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: qyros
The funny thing about that issue is, it shows how far the "street credibility" nonsense on this forum is going.
- OMG, I use secret 1337 abbreviations. And I even know the explanation why the abbreviation exists, you n00b!!!1111 -
The only reason why this abbreviation still exists, is its inherent 1337 factor (and what it differs from hac etc.).
And that¦s also the reason why I for myself will never use it.
Apart from that I don¦t give a **** how and if the abbreviation is used on this forum. It¦s still hilarious.
Huh? Say PDS out loud, then say PDU out loud.
There's your answer, fishbulb.
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Izo Azlion
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Posted - 2006.04.24 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Idara
Oh for ****'s sake...
I call em PDU's as well, and now I'm going to make a point of it because I want to **** everyone off who can't fathom the fact that an acronym has become common usage...you wanna pay anyone who proves that HAC's were in the game before they got changed to HAS's? AF instead of AS?
In closing...
PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU PDU
Shes right, angry, probably OTT, but she is right.
Izo Azlion,
Clan Wolf.
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qyros
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Posted - 2006.04.24 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sangxianc
Originally by: qyros
The funny thing about that issue is, it shows how far the "street credibility" nonsense on this forum is going.
- OMG, I use secret 1337 abbreviations. And I even know the explanation why the abbreviation exists, you n00b!!!1111 -
The only reason why this abbreviation still exists, is its inherent 1337 factor (and what it differs from hac etc.).
And that¦s also the reason why I for myself will never use it.
Apart from that I don¦t give a **** how and if the abbreviation is used on this forum. It¦s still hilarious.
Huh? Say PDS out loud, then say PDU out loud.
There's your answer, fishbulb.
Well, actually I like sharp word endings more than mumbling sounds going to nowhere.
Sorry, you probably missed it where I said, that I don¦t care what abbreviation you use. It¦s ok man.
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Serena Sinclair
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:29:00 -
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I don't care what anyone calls it. PDU is fine if you like that.
All I care about is if it ever was actually Unit in the game or not.
Can anyone offer proof of existance of it being Unit?
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:39:00 -
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the big question is why?
Its all down to a simple case of using the correct mnemonic for the job . pds sounds like a bowel disease. pdu rolls of the tongue and looks better in type.
just like HAC v HAS, .
you use what you want. I dont give a flying phook if its correct or not. If it sounds good to me then Im happy.
Al Thorr
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Grifter Treysik
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:40:00 -
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I still don't get it. Whats the big deal if people call it PDS or PDU? Geez.
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Tervaga
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:40:00 -
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The Energy Grid Upgrades skill still states "power diagnostic units" in the description...
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:48:00 -
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heh that castor UI looks alot cleaner then what we have now.
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Breed Love
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Posted - 2006.04.25 03:47:00 -
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Edited by: Breed Love on 25/04/2006 03:48:35
Why dont all you trolls read the OP again? He isnt trying to make you say "PDS" from now on, he is just wondering if "PDU"'s actually existed. This is a much better topic choice than another wcs or nos whine thread, kudos to the OP.
Go troll elsewhere.
Back on topic, I've never seen a "PDU" in-game, but then, I wasnt playing back in 2003 days either..
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Zion Zan'threxian
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Posted - 2006.04.25 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
heh that castor UI looks alot cleaner then what we have now.
omg no...cleaner...sorta...horrible to use I hated it. :(... and for PDU, I dunno, I really don't remember power diagnostic unit, my memory may suck who knows... but I think maybe people are just seeing RCU which shares the same icon and assuming "PDU" in some mass subconcious misnomer, that aside, I still call it a pdu :p
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.25 05:51:00 -
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as was mentioned by Tervaga, but mislinked, Energy Grid Upgrades shows it as PDU...
to me this isn't proof of it ever being a PDU officially, but proof of CCP not really caring wether it's PDU or PDS... I don't have any of my old screenies from beta (well maybe on the other computers in the household), but I have a feeling the module was always meant to be called Power Diagnostic System, just referred to as both in official text... so people latched onto one of them, an PDU became popular
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.04.25 08:27:00 -
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Heh. The reason people still use it isn't because of l33tness or laziness or anything like that, it's a simple matter of communication. Everybody calls it a PDU, so if you say "PDU" 99% of the time people will understand what you mean. "PDS" confuses far more people (at least, people of the type the majority of players over a month old will be talking to) than "PDU" does.
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.04.25 08:46:00 -
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RCU Reactor Control Unit
PDU Power Distribution Unit
Makes sense right? Welp, CCP named is P.D. System, not unit.
Some players dont care, and abbreiviate the two like mods the same...because PDU does sound a whole heck of alot better than PDS.
10mill please.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.04.25 08:52:00 -
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I always called them "power diags". 
Don't sweat it. Just use the right word, and people will understand.
(Ps: The right word is "system")
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.04.25 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
RCU Reactor Control Unit
PDU Power Distribution Unit
Makes sense right? Welp, CCP named is P.D. System, not unit.
Some players dont care, and abbreiviate the two like mods the same...because PDU does sound a whole heck of alot better than PDS.
10mill please.
PDU - power diagnostic unit.
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2006.04.25 10:24:00 -
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We deffinatly need to get to the bottom with this. Can we have a dev response please?
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Cade Morrigan
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Posted - 2006.04.25 13:12:00 -
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CCP just needs to put a filter on the forums that converts PDU to PDS wherever found.
-= Save the Gila! Fix its grid and cpu! =-
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.04.25 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: MrRookie
We deffinatly need to get to the bottom with this. Can we have a dev response please?
Dev response to what? It's called a Power Diagonstic System, the players all call it a PDU. What are you expecting CCP to say?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.25 13:58:00 -
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"Go back much farther, when you could customize your ship default values."
CCP bring back mid slot grid modules and customizable capsule \o/
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Elegant
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Posted - 2006.04.25 13:58:00 -
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That any ingame references to this fictional PDU thingy will result in Concord action?
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xenorx
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Posted - 2006.04.25 14:15:00 -
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Who cares! It has been called a PDU on these forums for long enough that everyone uses it and understands it. Do you intend to waste everyones time on your next post about a HAC v HAS? or perhaps you will blow a gasket over a AF v AS? Get a life man
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Cade Morrigan
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Posted - 2006.04.25 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: xenorx
Who cares! It has been called a PDU on these forums for long enough that everyone uses it and understands it.
Yeah, um that's obviously 100% wrong since noobs are asking what PDUs are in like 3 different threads per day.
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Elegant
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:39:00 -
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Time for a Fitting Terminology sticky? Yes I think it is...
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CptEagle
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cade Morrigan
Originally by: xenorx
Who cares! It has been called a PDU on these forums for long enough that everyone uses it and understands it.
Yeah, um that's obviously 100% wrong since noobs are asking what PDUs are in like 3 different threads per day.
Thats totally irrelevant since theyre asking what RCU's, MAPC's, CPR's and alot more lik that mods.
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Elegant
Time for a Fitting Terminology sticky? Yes I think it is...
thanks for the idea... feel free to contribute here
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chingon
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:04:00 -
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i vote for PDU
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: MrRookie
We deffinatly need to get to the bottom with this. Can we have a dev response please?
Erm, we *have* gotten to the bottem of it. The skills to use PDU/PDS, RCUs and related modules specifically reffer to it as a Power Diagnostic Unit. As the skill is one of the first things people actually read (to be sure it actually affects the module they're trying to use), that's going to be the name that sticks.
Additionally, the fact that the skill itself reffers to them as PDUs indicates that the dev team actually has reffered to the module in question as PDUs.
The question has been solved. Give Tervaga his iskies, and we can be done with this silly debate.
Harry Voyager
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:25:00 -
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I was being ironic
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2006.04.27 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Harry Voyager
Originally by: MrRookie
We deffinatly need to get to the bottom with this. Can we have a dev response please?
Erm, we *have* gotten to the bottem of it. The skills to use PDU/PDS, RCUs and related modules specifically reffer to it as a Power Diagnostic Unit. As the skill is one of the first things people actually read (to be sure it actually affects the module they're trying to use), that's going to be the name that sticks.
Additionally, the fact that the skill itself reffers to them as PDUs indicates that the dev team actually has reffered to the module in question as PDUs.
The question has been solved. Give Tervaga his iskies, and we can be done with this silly debate.
Harry Voyager
QFT
Energy Grid Upgrades
Skill at installing power upgrades e.g. capacitor battery and power diagnostic units. 5% reduction in CPU needs of modules requiring Energy Grid Upgrades per skill level.
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Graf Zeppelin
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Posted - 2006.04.27 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 24/04/2006 22:26:35
Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 24/04/2006 22:24:04
Originally by: Natsuki
june 28 2003
That isn't the beta interface. Screenshot doesn't go back far enough. Go back much farther, when you could customize your ship default values.
That interface looks N I C E
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Flen Drift
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Posted - 2006.04.27 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Steven Dynahir
Originally by: Harry Voyager
Originally by: MrRookie
We deffinatly need to get to the bottom with this. Can we have a dev response please?
Erm, we *have* gotten to the bottem of it. The skills to use PDU/PDS, RCUs and related modules specifically reffer to it as a Power Diagnostic Unit. As the skill is one of the first things people actually read (to be sure it actually affects the module they're trying to use), that's going to be the name that sticks.
Additionally, the fact that the skill itself reffers to them as PDUs indicates that the dev team actually has reffered to the module in question as PDUs.
The question has been solved. Give Tervaga his iskies, and we can be done with this silly debate.
Harry Voyager
QFT
Energy Grid Upgrades
Skill at installing power upgrades e.g. capacitor battery and power diagnostic units. 5% reduction in CPU needs of modules requiring Energy Grid Upgrades per skill level.
The Power Diagnostic System is obviously one of a series of items known as Power Diagnostic Units.
There's nothing more to see here please move along.......
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Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2006.04.27 12:26:00 -
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Were these skill descriptions not rewritten by Tripoli?
In which case they prove nothing as they have probably been changed within the last few months.
As far back as I can recall (before I started this character, technically my 'alt', but not to beta - maybe end of 1st month after launch) they have always been called power diagnostic systems. But equally everyone has always called them PDU (I even remember attempting to use the correct acronym a few times before deciding that PDU was better). Probably because we have RCU and calling something a unit just makes more sense. It's an extra fitting not a built in system.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.28 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Grifter Treysik
I still don't get it. Whats the big deal if people call it PDS or PDU? Geez.
Some people are just that bored it would seem...
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Veritech
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Posted - 2006.04.29 01:08:00 -
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Hm, maybe we should just rename the Reactor Control Unit to Reactor Control System 
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Deros
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Posted - 2006.04.29 01:17:00 -
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nah, just naming it back to its correct name of Power Diagnostic Unit would do :P
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DarknessInc
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Posted - 2006.04.29 01:32:00 -
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does anyone care anymore?
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Entity
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Posted - 2006.04.29 01:35:00 -
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Judging by the amount of replies to this thread, quite a few people care ;-)
I don't recall it ever being called "Power Diagnostic UNIT" though.
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