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Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:14:00 -
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Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while.
After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills  which will train always).
I Support the Goons! |
Hershman
G-Weezy
72
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:20:00 -
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Sorry... that's one of the dumbest ideas I've heard. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
154
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:21:00 -
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Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always).
Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:21:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
Yes, Yes I would.
Hershman wrote:Sorry... that's one of the dumbest ideas I've heard.
Says the carebear.
I Support the Goons! |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
Galactic-Rangers
43
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:23:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
as long as im able to connect to the server that day then yes |
Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
The Black Armada
37
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:26:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
I want this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!oneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
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Spurty
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
47
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:32:00 -
[7] - Quote
Also disable overviews so everyone is on it, no filtering so it really ends up being all vs all (not 2000 goons vs 5 PVE guys).
real armageddon now just an "alliance face stomp"
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
john decuire
Drama Llamas
0
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:33:00 -
[8] - Quote
ohhhh god please do it |
TriadSte
3rd Division
24
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:39:00 -
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What a dumbass idea. High sec is called High sec for a reason.
Whats gonna happen? Concord get a few days off? lol.....
If u wanna fight go low or null and get your kicks. |
bornaa
GRiD.
32
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:44:00 -
[10] - Quote
many many many players will be pissed by this... remember my words... "we are paying for game time to get SP"
so if you want to do it without pissed players and rage threads you will have to give everybody one day worth of SP or one day more on sub. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
37
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Posted - 2011.11.12 14:45:00 -
[11] - Quote
I'd be fine with this as long as skill points were reset to what they were the day before and no assets/isk are lost/gained (because otherwise many of the targets will just not be on that day).
EDIT: better would be to give SP for the day, but I'm not picky.... |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
168
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Posted - 2011.11.12 15:07:00 -
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No skill points for 24 hrs?
Sorry, that's completely unacceptable.
If you want to give Concord a 24 hr vacation and let all hell break loose, fine. Just make sure everyone is notified by Eve mail everyday for at least a week prior to the event. Also all security status hits still count. Furthermore, all equipment lost shall not be replaced. Also all new player starter systems will still have Concord present and ready for action.
One more thing, all characters shall continue training skills and gaining skillpoints.
While that's happening, I'll just count how many minutes it takes for the Eve universe to implode and then count the hours it takes to recover from the server crash. |
Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
The Lostboys
4
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Posted - 2011.11.12 15:14:00 -
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I assume the loss of the SP is because if you are resetting everything back to the way it was a day earlier, its easiest if EVERYTHING is reset including SP?
If so, then just gift a days worth of SP to everyone along with the reset.
But for me this would just be a day I don't bother to log in. I get no pleasure from PvP combat, even when I'm on the winning side. |
Raid'En
Apprentice Innovations
109
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Posted - 2011.11.12 15:32:00 -
[14] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
simply give us one day worth of free skillpoint after. you have the tools for it, so you can easily do it. |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.12 15:36:00 -
[15] - Quote
One quick day of no fuss, no consequences blastiness sounds pretty awesome tbh. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2011.11.12 15:38:00 -
[16] - Quote
IF this dumb idea ever happens you'll see thousands of DRF guys invading high sec all over the place. Nice stuff.
If you do so just make docking impossible, make bubbles and cynos possible.
I'd like to see how many would be connected with their main toon, and not main toon + 20 alts or whatsoever.
Thx you just showed to everyone why this game mechanics are so broken and uninteresting for every one else than golden boys. |
rufeno
Imajica Investments
Blue Sky Consortium
14
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Posted - 2011.11.12 15:39:00 -
[17] - Quote
you guys know sisi is pretty much that, right?
after mass test it's a giant free for all where everyone shoot everyone, 500+ pilot style! and there's no consequence. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
296
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Posted - 2011.11.12 15:40:00 -
[18] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
hell yes, a fooking resounding hell yes, I'll even give up 2 days of training for that
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
1084
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Posted - 2011.11.12 15:44:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
I want it with no resets of anything.
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The Offerer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2011.11.12 15:44:00 -
[20] - Quote
Mr LaForge wrote:After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always).
It's called Singularity (or SiSi). Check it out sometimes 
(OK, maybe it's not FFA everywhere, but it's close enough considering that you can ask a GM to move you to a FFA system) |
Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
162
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Posted - 2011.11.12 15:54:00 -
[21] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
only if I get a some unassigned SP for compensation the day after |
AureoLion
Etoilles Mortant Ltd.
Solyaris Chtonium
22
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Posted - 2011.11.12 16:04:00 -
[22] - Quote
24h of free SP the day after, and do that.
And disable overview and names out of your fleet for the day =p |
TheButcherPete
StoneWall Metals Productions
Bloodbound.
14
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Posted - 2011.11.12 16:10:00 -
[23] - Quote
an Armageddon system that pauses your skill queue when you enter? Woot sound awesome, my Vindi of DOOMZ
/me snugglehump you long time GÖÑ
~ I AM PETEBBA |
Master Akira
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
2
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Posted - 2011.11.12 16:16:00 -
[24] - Quote
Armageddon day would be awesome! I remember the one that happened back in 2007, with dreads and carriers fighting in Jita 4-4... the lag was unbearable with 200 people but it was loads of fun until the fleet of Dev titans came in and used the old AoE DD on everyone  |
Agonising Ecstacy
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.12 16:20:00 -
[25] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
Yes. But it doesn't have to be either/or. You have a mechanism to give free SPs. You could do a 24 hour Armageddon day, during which we would all agree to have your future babies, then give everyone 3000 skill points (or whatever) lapsed in the interim...
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luZk
Jaegerkorpset
34
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Posted - 2011.11.12 16:25:00 -
[26] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
Sure if its a complete 23 hours rollback, then im all for it. |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.11.12 16:35:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day? I want it with no resets of anything.
Then you'd just have the bears docked up or logged off, and the rest pewpewing with cheap ships they don't care about losing. Boring! I want to spend my money on big expensive ships and then explode them without worrying about money or lost implants or sec status or standings or kill rights or all those other annoyances.
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2011.11.12 16:41:00 -
[28] - Quote
Master Akira wrote:Armageddon day would be awesome! I remember the one that happened back in 2007, with dreads and carriers fighting in Jita 4-4... the lag was unbearable with 200 people but it was loads of fun until the fleet of Dev titans came in and used the old AoE DD on everyone
I'd drop hundreds or thousands of shuttles from my cloaked orcas just to help you have more fun |
Bryant21
Interest Recovery Service
8
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Posted - 2011.11.12 16:41:00 -
[29] - Quote
This, always this. |
Komen
Capital Enrichment Services
30
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Posted - 2011.11.12 16:50:00 -
[30] - Quote
Bah humbug I say.
Also I support Armed Geddon day, in support of my Amarr bros. Victor, dudes, Victor. |
Alizandro Goderaski
Evolution
The Initiative.
11
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Posted - 2011.11.12 17:03:00 -
[31] - Quote
Armageddon day? Again? Yes please! |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
31
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Posted - 2011.11.12 17:19:00 -
[32] - Quote
I agree with others that losing 24 hours of training is unacceptable, but that should be easy enough to gift back.
All I would ask is a wee bit of notice so I can be properly fit!
Bring it on! |
Dr Mercy
Doctrine.
FEARLESS.
22
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Posted - 2011.11.12 17:47:00 -
[33] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
Just do it on Sisi - as you have in the past. There is no reason to to this on TQ. |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
115
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Posted - 2011.11.12 17:55:00 -
[34] - Quote
It's funny to read all this ... and if they pull it off ...
... read about all the whiners who couldn't log on because of [whatever reason].
Also, it's quite unfair using Singularity for it, because plenty of people won't download around a few gigabyte twice ...
Not against the idea, just believing it's impossible to pull off without annoying most of us.
Altough seriously, it's a very biased present that will pretty much spur hatred in parts of the community ...
... which really shouldn't be the goal.
You guys really **** me off for being so egoistic brats. |
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
43
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Posted - 2011.11.12 18:12:00 -
[35] - Quote
If there's some huge update which requires TQ to go offline for a whole day like with the original Armageddon Day, then sure, why not.
Doing it just for the heck of it and disrupting everyone else's regular Eve activities when there's a perfectly good test server people could use for shooting each other risk-free seems a little silly though. |
Dr Mercy
Doctrine.
FEARLESS.
23
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Posted - 2011.11.12 18:16:00 -
[36] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:
It's funny to read all this ... and if they pull it off ...
... read about all the whiners who couldn't log on because of [whatever reason].
Also, it's quite unfair using Singularity for it, because plenty of people won't download around a few gigabyte twice ...
Not against the idea, just believing it's impossible to pull off without annoying most of us.
Altough seriously, it's a very biased present that will pretty much spur hatred in parts of the community ...
... which really shouldn't be the goal.
You guys really **** me off for being so egoistic brats.
In the past they just used the TQ client connecting to the Sisi server. No need to DL anything:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=614658 |
Nandy Cocytus
Pandemonium Private Consultants LLC
21
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Posted - 2011.11.12 18:18:00 -
[37] - Quote
OR:
You could log into Singularity instead, right after a mass test. Which happen pretty regularly. Also, you may not realize that most ships are seeded in navy stations at 100 ISK a pice. A lot of things are, as a matter of fact. Have at it.
So it goes. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2011.11.12 18:45:00 -
[38] - Quote
I for one would love to see a free for all everywhere. But then role everything back like it was just a dream or somethin. |
Reeno Coleman
73
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Posted - 2011.11.12 19:11:00 -
[39] - Quote
I actually dont think that idea is so bad.
One weekend. No rules. Everything free on the market.
And server rollback on monday. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
327
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Posted - 2011.11.12 19:15:00 -
[40] - Quote
TriadSte wrote:Whats gonna happen? Concord get a few days off? lol.....
Happened before.
Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |
Cheekything
Black Lance
Executive Outcomes
70
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Posted - 2011.11.12 19:28:00 -
[41] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
So long as you give us warning to set a long skill it would be perfect :). |
Gempei
Siberian Khatru.
9
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Posted - 2011.11.12 19:52:00 -
[42] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
YES  |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
128
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Posted - 2011.11.12 19:55:00 -
[43] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
YES!!!
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
271
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Posted - 2011.11.12 20:03:00 -
[44] - Quote
Well, if this thread proves one thing it's that a lot of people are overly fixated with earning skill points.
To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
123
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Posted - 2011.11.12 20:59:00 -
[45] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:
Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
I would totally go for it if you guys could somehow save the database before one DT, have a free-for all day and then the next day pretend it didn't happen and back up the DB from the day before. That would be awesome! Of course instead of Armageddon day it could be: Eve Online: GROUNDHOG DAY! |
Elson Tamar
Lion Investments
33
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Posted - 2011.11.12 21:13:00 -
[46] - Quote
Tell you what im happy to give up a days skill points for no consquence violence fest and im a carebear. |
Mr M
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
41
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Posted - 2011.11.12 21:33:00 -
[47] - Quote
rufeno wrote:you guys know sisi is pretty much that, right?
after mass test it's a giant free for all where everyone shoot everyone, 500+ pilot style! and there's no consequence.
This say it all.
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Harlequin Sweetlips
Emergent Entity
KONZERN
2
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Posted - 2011.11.12 21:37:00 -
[48] - Quote
Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always).
This guy is a Goon. Isn't that what they do anyway?
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ACE McFACE
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
75
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Posted - 2011.11.12 21:41:00 -
[49] - Quote
rufeno wrote:you guys know sisi is pretty much that, right?
after mass test it's a giant free for all where everyone shoot everyone, 500+ pilot style! and there's no consequence.
Well it should be like that, but then all the 1337 PvPers fleet up with thier caps they would never risk in TQ and just gank anyone wanting to have a bit of fun with crazy fits
ZE GOGGLES, ZEY DO NOTHING! (Not wearing them so don't waste your time reading this sig) |
Lucivec
Trolls From Outer Space
0
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Posted - 2011.11.12 22:04:00 -
[50] - Quote
@OP - Dumbest idea ever. Wouldn't the lag be unbearable? |
Tokino Kaalakiota
Kaalakiota Logistical Serivces
7
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Posted - 2011.11.12 22:10:00 -
[51] - Quote
Harlequin Sweetlips wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). This guy is a Goon. Isn't that what they do anyway?
Just wanna say he's not a goon, and actually a very good friend of mine.(Do you know who I am?) Incidentally he recently semi-retired from eve and I've been trying to convince him to come back.
A FFA day with no consequences afterwards, and perhaps a refund of a day's worth of SP would be AWESOME.
+1 for this idea.
-Tokino
EDIT - Just an FYI he was a complete carebear when he played eve...I've been trying to convince him to try PVP in eve and this might be a nice way to get him and other ppl who initially didn't know the joy of PvP and who can't be bothered to set up the test server to try pvp ;) |
ThisIsntMyMain
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2011.11.12 22:24:00 -
[52] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
Assuming this means you will roll back the server by one day.
HELL YES
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SilentSkills
Estrale Frontiers
Project Wildfire
27
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Posted - 2011.11.12 22:46:00 -
[53] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
Yes make it happen Captain! |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
191
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Posted - 2011.11.12 23:15:00 -
[54] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
YES |
Spectre80
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
19
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Posted - 2011.11.12 23:18:00 -
[55] - Quote
75% of people who would normally log in just wouldnt play in that day... |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
178
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Posted - 2011.11.12 23:57:00 -
[56] - Quote
Ptraci wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:
Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
I would totally go for it if you guys could somehow save the database before one DT, have a free-for all day and then the next day pretend it didn't happen and back up the DB from the day before. That would be awesome! Of course instead of Armageddon day it could be: Eve Online: GROUNDHOG DAY!
Everyone keeps thinking 'Oh, everything can be replaced after 24 hrs.'
Sure, if a snapshot is done of the entire server just before it happens. All isk, ships, equipment, clones, implants, etc, will all be recorded and then after 24 hrs everything is set back to how the snap shot was. That means all the shinny loot, KM's and corpses earned during that 24 hr period will also be erased as well. So basically it's a waste of time and makes this 'Armageddon Day' useless.
So yeah, everything gets replaced except for the 24 hrs of missing skill training time and 24 hrs of disrupted game play.
Oh right, Credit of skill points added to all characters after that 24 hr period.
Just exactly how is that to be done?
Someone with a full set of +5 implants trains a higher amount of skill points than someone with no implants. Also would the amount of skill points be based on a rank 1 skill or a higher rank skill? Rank 1 skills have a faster training time thus more skill points would be trained.
So you say the amount of SP's will be based on the snap shot. OK, that would mean the skill rank being trained as well.
Snapshot of a player with a set of +5 implants training a rank 1 skill. That player then switches to a naked jump clone (No implants) and goes on a rampage and probably goes thru a few more j-clones. Then said player jumps back to main clone with the +5 implants just before the 24 hrs is over.
Snapshot shows him with +5 implants training a rank 1 skill and he gets credited massive amount of SP's when in reality he spent the majority of that 24 hr time period with no implants at all. He then uses those credited SP's on a rank 14 skill. This situation can also be viewed on the flip side. Suppose someone was going to buy a set of implants on that day? Problem is the snapshot only shows him with no implants thus he won't get the extra SP's due.
Also what about the players other accounts? Do they also get SP's even if they aren't active that day? And what about other alts on the same account? They all lost 24 hrs.
I'm sorry but this sounds like it could be exploited just to gain extra SP's or in some cases, short change players.
As for the disrupted game time, adding an extra 24 hrs to every account could balance out the numbers but it wouldn't replace that day.
Maybe a player had that specific day free from real life obligations and was going to do some mining to refuel his POS that only has a couple days of fuel left. He logs in to see all hell is breaking loose and Concord is nowhere to be seen. He tries to do his plan but get's ganked every time he turns around. That player now can't do his regularly planed game play and logs back out. Unfortunately that player can't log back in til next week due to real life obligations. By then the POS is out of fuel and open to attack.
Even if it's just one player that is inconvenienced like that, the whole idea of 'Armageddon Day' becomes nullified. I sincerely think that most players will not want their game play disrupted by this 'Armageddon Day'.
Sorry to point all this stuff out but if you really want to go on a 24 hr shooting spree, better go jump on the test sever.
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Adeena Torcfist
Dark Underground Forces
3
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Posted - 2011.11.13 00:19:00 -
[57] - Quote
probably end up being capitals online in high sec
well, i for one, if i dont techically lose anything bar a days skill points, & get all my blown up ships back, ill be up for that.
Ill go hunt down martineski
I was never about when the first armageddon day was on, so, its something i look forward to having a dabble in |
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
92
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Posted - 2011.11.13 00:24:00 -
[58] - Quote
A very dumb idea.
For example players might jump their caps and supercaps into Amarr, or Jita if the systems become 0.0 for a day.
Make an Armgeddon day on Singularity and you do what you want, but this as far away from TQ as possible. |
Adeena Torcfist
Dark Underground Forces
3
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Posted - 2011.11.13 00:34:00 -
[59] - Quote
hows it dumb? even if everyones caps are in jita, on the day, the following day, theyll all be back in stations where they all undocked them from to jump down.
Everyones ships, wallets & anything else they got going, will all be back to pre armegeddon. Nothing lost, nothing gained as they say |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
18
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Posted - 2011.11.13 00:39:00 -
[60] - Quote
My 10cents
If we assume the no consequence route (TQ does a roll back).
The Pros
Everyone will participate with all ships
Empire ppl will get a taste of null-sec life
I believe it will be alot more fun - ship replacement will not be a issue (you can fly and lose it all)
The BIGGEST plus is that CCP can do LIVE TQ stress testing !!!!
The Cons
Everyone will participate with all ships - it will be a fiasco
Empire ppl will get a taste of null-sec life or may not even log in (too attached to their pixels)
CCP could have a corrupt backup and may NOT be able to roll-back, Many tears would ensue
The server cluster may not be able to handle it and BSOD would be the order of the day.
I would love it
I am aware of my own ignorance, and painfully aware of yours |
Kent Reeves
13
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Posted - 2011.11.13 00:49:00 -
[61] - Quote
Sounds good to me. Just please take a survey of your subscribers before you commit to anything.
Make absolutely sure they know they won't get SP for that day.
You may also want to do some market seeding on said day. |
Majora Veneris
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.11.13 00:59:00 -
[62] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Someone with a full set of +5 implants trains a higher amount of skill points than someone with no implants. Also would the amount of skill points be based on a rank 1 skill or a higher rank skill? Rank 1 skills have a faster training time thus more skill points would be trained.
So you say the amount of SP's will be based on the snap shot. OK, that would mean the skill rank being trained as well.
Snapshot of a player with a set of +5 implants training a rank 1 skill. That player then switches to a naked jump clone (No implants) and goes on a rampage and probably goes thru a few more j-clones. Then said player jumps back to main clone with the +5 implants just before the 24 hrs is over.
Snapshot shows him with +5 implants training a rank 1 skill and he gets credited massive amount of SP's when in reality he spent the majority of that 24 hr time period with no implants at all. He then uses those credited SP's on a rank 14 skill. This situation can also be viewed on the flip side. Suppose someone was going to buy a set of implants on that day? Problem is the snapshot only shows him with no implants thus he won't get the extra SP's due.
I agree with the whole test server thing, but the ONLY thing that affects training speed is implants. you do NOT gain skill points any faster training a rank 1 skill over a rank 6 skill. A rank one skill SEEMS faster because you actually have fewer sp to train in order to advance it one skill level.
IE: Spaceship command (rank 1) level 4 -> level 5= 210745 sp
Battlecruisers (rank 6) level 4 -> level 5 = 1264470 sp |
ShadowFire15
BOAE INC
BricK sQuAD.
35
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Posted - 2011.11.13 01:26:00 -
[63] - Quote
can you hear that? Its the sound of massive tears mostly in jita if this were to happen. :D
Stan Smith
had a snow storm over weekend guy was shoveling snow outside, so i shot him and mined the snow myself. concord never showed up. on an unrelated note, i have a court date next tuesday |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
299
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Posted - 2011.11.13 02:04:00 -
[64] - Quote
Really kinda sad how people are vaguely for this, but only if there were a rollback.
No, wait. It's really sad.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Harlequin Sweetlips
Emergent Entity
KONZERN
4
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Posted - 2011.11.18 20:24:00 -
[65] - Quote
Tokino Kaalakiota wrote:Harlequin Sweetlips wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). This guy is a Goon. Isn't that what they do anyway? Just wanna say he's not a goon, and actually a very good friend of mine.(Do you know who I am?)
He has a tagline saying "I support the Goons" which basically means he will behave as one, even if he hasn't been let into the clique yet.
And no, I don't know who you are.
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E man Industries
SeaChell Productions
138
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Posted - 2011.11.18 21:17:00 -
[66] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
YES YES YES
Need more-ádecent content a casual player can access in a 1-2h play period that is actually fun and contributes to long term personal and corp goals. This applies to PvE and PvP. |
Aeril Malkyre
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2011.11.18 21:19:00 -
[67] - Quote
This is a great idea. Full day of free for all slaughter and awesome, then reset everything like it never happened.
I won't even mind the loss of skill (though I wouldn't turn down a compensatory bundle of SP).
This would be a chance for all the care bears (like me) to cut loose and try some mayhem. I love it.
Ample warning over every channel and form of communication, with clear details for all players.
But **** yes, this. |
E man Industries
SeaChell Productions
138
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Posted - 2011.11.18 21:20:00 -
[68] - Quote
Sancha come in and disable concord...
Sancha take out cloning bays so people are reset 1 days training
Concord took responsibiliy and is refunding all lot ships.
Esentially do the event and then roll back......have some rp explanation...maybe a GM in a few supers to make it crazy.
Make a good demo of time dialation.
Need more-ádecent content a casual player can access in a 1-2h play period that is actually fun and contributes to long term personal and corp goals. This applies to PvE and PvP. |
E man Industries
SeaChell Productions
138
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Posted - 2011.11.18 21:22:00 -
[69] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Really kinda sad how people are vaguely for this, but only if there were a rollback.
No, wait. It's really sad.
It avoids QQ but I like the diea of no role back as well..sort of changes it up....
Oh poop i may not always be safe.
Need more-ádecent content a casual player can access in a 1-2h play period that is actually fun and contributes to long term personal and corp goals. This applies to PvE and PvP. |
Opertone
Signal 7
12
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Posted - 2011.11.18 21:25:00 -
[70] - Quote
5 letters, 2 "o".
Santa, you can give.
(Lord, not "sboon", not "znoos", not "znooc") |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
194
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Posted - 2011.11.18 21:46:00 -
[71] - Quote
Just skimmed over the entire thread and I must say... gawd daymn! Some people need to get back to basics and relearn how to have pointless fun for the sake of pointless fun.
Killmails? Who cares. You have the story. Tell it to future players. With no corroborating "evidence" (aside from some peers maybe) you can tell a good story and embellish a bit for effect.
No SP gain for a day? Comon. That's 24 hours out of... how long have you been playing? I've been playing for 3 years. That's 1,095.75+ days. I'd be willing to give up one or two of those days of training for an epic free-for-all with no real tangible gains/consequences.
Afraid of losing ****? Everything get's rolled back after 24 hours. Go wild and do all the stupid dumb crap that you've always thought about doing. Pimp out that Nightmare with 8 bil in officer mods and jump into a gatecamp. Refit your mission ship, get together with a bunch of other carebears in their refitted missions ships, and Leeroy into the lion's den of pirate scum!!! It's not like you'll be ACTUALLY risking your ship (you get it back the way it was in 24 hours).
Support Armageddon Day!!!!!!
"Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one."
~Unknown |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
186
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Posted - 2011.11.18 21:59:00 -
[72] - Quote
They don't want it on the test server.
What they want is not even a combat functionality test.
It's not even a "let's have a huge death match and a ton of fun!".
It's all about those people in high sec who will not know - being casual players not watching the forums and ads- getting griefed and even if the loss is not permanent, greifers are still going to enjoy getting a rise out of somebody.
If I want to play a death match, I got COD2 for that.
Here's a deal: let's have an Armageddon or "I had a really bad dream that everything went Mad Max" day, but make sure that EVERY player gets an email notice first from CCP.
Doesn't seem so attractive now, does it?
That would mean the griefables would either not log in (because nothing you do will last win or lose) or they might gear up combat ships and get ready to have a good time.
I would bet that most of the people thinking this is a good idea expect to catch others as they try to mine an mission, not having gotten the memo, and greif them while relishing in the tears.
I would love to see a Mad Max destructo-bonanza but I would also hope everybody gets the memo first.
And there is also a liability. Even if the loss is not permanent, if I they to deal with "AWW UMAD UGOT PWNED NOOB GBTW LOLZ PHAG HEADSHOT!!" they would decide that not having to put up with people like that at all and having the choice means no more sub. Even people who know it's just a game will decide not to have to put up with semi-autistic griefers.
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Sovai Elaaren
Elaaren Pandemonium
2
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Posted - 2011.11.18 21:59:00 -
[73] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:Armageddon Day(s). Just let people have it out everywhere for a day or so. High sec becomes Battlefield Null for a while as people move to play king of the hill in Jita for a while. After the said event is over everything is reset back(except skills which will train always). Would you still like to have an Armageddon Day if you can't keep the skillpoints which were trained during that day?
Yes, absolutely.
I agree with ShahFluffers above, fun for the sake of fun is no bad thing. |
yumike
Eve of Madness
12
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Posted - 2011.11.18 22:08:00 -
[74] - Quote
Takseen wrote:One quick day of no fuss, no consequences blastiness sounds pretty awesome tbh.
I'm with this guy, Sounds awesome! |
Vincent Gaines
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
130
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Posted - 2011.11.18 22:12:00 -
[75] - Quote
Allow cynos in hisec that day also please. |
Kinis Deren
EVE University
Ivy League
19
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Posted - 2011.11.18 22:44:00 -
[76] - Quote
Yes!
Make it so that the Nullbears have a standings reset; alliances, with pets and their BFF's - ake them all flashy to each other so they can pew pew everyone - bring PvP to the poor starved masses in Null Sec!
Null Sec demands it!!!! |
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