Never met some one in au tz that didn't have an opinion

I think everything that is wrong with wormholes has been highlighted in the WH townhall meeting that Chitsa held last week.

Townhall Recording: https://soundcloud.com/nylon-elephant/wormhole-town-hall-09-03-2014

At some point Malcanis, current CSM 8 member, is trying to debate with the wormholers but everything wrong with this community is being displayed in that argument. Wormhole people can't debate or disagree with parties outside their circles, and that included other wormholers.

Current CSM 8 members, Mike, Ali and Malcanis have given you all the advise, tips and the means to get your points across to CCP and get WH changes on the map... However, it will require you to communicate on the forums. Sadly, wormholers can't have a constructive conversation, as soon as a not-so-popular idea is mentioned, people are grabbing pitchforks and torches. Most topics end in trolling after 2 or 3 pages and the ones that don't never get anywhere because people only come here to troll anyways.

It's somewhat funny how big fights in null end up with news on how it's bringing the game new players, yet big fights in wormhole space are somewhow bad and unable to do the same... It might not be so visible, but it happens all the same. Those who are giving up on wormhole space after being evicted, are the people who aren't cut to live there so there's quite literally no loss.

And before someone calls me out as yet another forum alt, it's not. Was here when I was still in SSC, now in this NPC corp, and will be here no matter where I head to next. It's wspace or uninstall for me and I ain't going to do the latter anytime soon.

Sadly, wormholers can't have a constructive conversation, as soon as a not-so-popular idea is mentioned, people are grabbing pitchforks and torches. Most topics end in trolling after 2 or 3 pages and the ones that don't never get anywhere because people only come here to troll anyways.

Two Step posted numbers when he was on the CSM that showed the amount of POSs getting removed in c2 space is almost identical to c5 space. The numbers also showed the average number of people on those POS kills to be very similar as well.

Obviously, just numbers doesn't tell the entire story but I found it to be rather striking.

Stuff like this makes me want to bring back whkills.info and do tons of stat tracking... but its work.... and I am a lazy bastard.

People are still evicting people?

It was awesome while it existed.

This, many times over.

Gnaw, confirm/deny bribes would work?

I have to stop this absurdity right there. "The WH townhall" was a select few individuals and most of those that run the major corps, these were at best a very small cross section of the WH community and i would be highly doubtful any of those present were from a class of WH's outside of a C5/6.

I think it is unfair to take a very small sample group (as you have in this example) and label that as the "wormhole community"

I realize i and others have not given you much respect at all and while you continue to post on an alt ".

Red, you sure do know how to complain but what's your point?
You call us out exactly the same way as we call you out but you never actually make any real points or suggestions.
And yes, I did read your post, there's nothing constructive in it at all.

When you talk about the WH community, what you are actually talking about is "your little circle of friends" but you're just to damn stupid to admit it. You talk high and mighty about the WH community and yet, when people come onto the subforums you act like retards and troll the living **** out of people. You never actually help anyone, you troll them or call them bears and threat them as less

You are not part of a community, you are part of your own little trash talking circle of friends and the only reason why you aren't admitting it is because you think you're a high class WH corp. Well, when I was still in the same Alliance as you, you were ****, nothing more then line members with nothing to say.

Maybe you should re-read my post, I didn't say the people attending the Town Hall meeting represented the entire WH community, I said, the problem of the community was highlighted in the meeting, I never said anything close to THE PEOPLE THERE ARE THE COMMUNITY...

I think at this point you have lost your sense of perspective and are merely replying to my posts to annoy or point out how much you disagree. At this point, no matter what I say, you will go out of your way to trash talk and you can't even read any of my posts constructively.

But I am going to reply anyways...

When you talk about the WH community, what you are actually talking about is "your little circle of friends" but you're just to damn stupid to admit it. You talk high and mighty about the WH community and yet, when people come onto the subforums you act like retards and troll the living **** out of people. You never actually help anyone, you troll them or call them bears and threat them as less.

You are not part of a community, you are part of your own little trash talking circle of friends and the only reason why you aren't admitting it is because you think you're a high class WH corp. Well, when I was still in the same Alliance as you, you were ****, nothing more then line members with nothing to say.

You worry about silly little things as alt posting, you try so hard to be right and fight any argument, just for the sake of being on the other side of the fence. Have a constructive conversation for once, try to look past your silly little pre-conceived notions that you conjured up all by yourself without actually knowing any of the facts. You draw conclusions, form opinions and draw your guns but you never actually stopped to listen to the people you're trying to fight.



Not going to address the issue since you drew your conclusions and made up your mind before you actually know the how, the why and the when... So, feel free to worry about these silly little things and continue to be this narrow minded. You're just showing how much of a ret*rd you really are.

I didn't realize this was all about an old grudge you've been holding on to. It would explain why your rants seem rather skewed, off base, and generally a lot of nonsense.

Again, you're making assumptions based on nothing but your own narrow minded ideas...

I like how you continue to call us names and yet we are the people trolling.

As you have stated before, you haven't given any respect, so I shall not give you any in return.

Cant you 2 just create an eve channel of your own and argue with each other in there?

Instead of sidtracking all the threads made in this forum with your childish rants.