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Lilianna Star Perkone Caldari State 153	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:11:00 - [1] - Quote I remember one of the silver rules of EVE is to join a player corp as soon as possible. Bad idea imo. I got stung hard doing this because veterans said it was a good idea. Turns out that there's a pretty nasty disadvantage to that. War decs are fun . I'm not saying never join a corp, but if you want to join a corp have a reason first. It doesn't have to be a great reason, but it has to be a reason. Don't just join for its own sake. Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device.
Doireen Kaundur 173	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:19:00 - [2] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device. Join a carebear corp. Minimizing the cost of replacing implants.
Lilianna Star Perkone Caldari State 154	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:21:00 - [3] - Quote Doireen Kaundur wrote: Lilianna Star wrote: Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device. Join a carebear corp. Did they change War Decs since last time I joined a corp? (This is from like 2012) I thought a war dec could be instated without consent from the other corp you wish to go to war with. If carebear corps exist, I am certain they would be the first targets of such things.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 10769	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:25:00 - [4] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: If carebear corps exist, I am certain they would be the first targets of such things. Correct. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Shrewd Tsero Aventine Legion 35	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:31:00 - [5] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: Did they change War Decs since last time I joined a corp? (This is from like 2012) I thought a war dec could be instated without consent from the other corp you wish to go to war with. If carebear corps exist, I am certain they would be the first targets of such things. Wardecs can be dropped on your corp at any time. There's no consent from the decced corp required. From my (limited) experience, if you're in a high sec corp, you're going to get decced at somepoint. Either because someone legitimately has a specific grudge against your corp and wants to play, or because there are just corps (one man or more) out there who's sole existence is based on deccing. It's how they make their money and generate content for themselves. I've never found them to be much of a bother. Of all the things that are easy to avoid in high sec, war decs are the easiest by far. Or you could just fit out a cheap T1 frig and go have some fun. :) It is good to have substance to one's existence.-á But in the absence of substance, one can do much yet with style.
Good Posting Posting with my Mind 116	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:31:00 - [6] - Quote You can drop from your corp and the war won't follow you. Or create your own 1 man corp and you will be ignored by wardeccers because wardec you will cost them 50 mill and you can disband and create a new corp for 1.6 mill more or less. Or move to a lonely low sec region when you get wardecced and keep doing your pve thing. You have many posibilities to avoid high sec wardecs if you don't want to fight back, use them.
Lilianna Star Perkone Caldari State 156	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:45:00 - [7] - Quote Good Posting wrote: You can drop from your corp and the war won't follow you. Or create your own 1 man corp and you will be ignored by wardeccers because wardec you will cost them 50 mill and you can disband and create a new corp for 1.6 mill more or less. Or move to a lonely low sec region when you get wardecced and keep doing your pve thing. You have many posibilities to avoid high sec wardecs if you don't want to fight back, use them. Why would I do any of that when I can just stay in Perkone and do my thing? :P
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 3065	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:46:00 - [8] - Quote Joining a corp that's worth a damn is kinda important. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Lilianna Star Perkone Caldari State 156	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:51:00 - [9] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Joining a corp that's worth a damn is kinda important. Why?
Batelle HOMELE55 2201	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:52:00 - [10] - Quote The only time I ever get wardecced is when I'm in a nullsec alliance that tends to have wardecs all the time. Every other wardec i've gotten while in hisec or on an alt corp has been short and uneventful. Any competent hisec corp should know how to run from wardecs, hide from wardecs, or fight off wardecs. There really are a large number of options. If you joined a corp and were miserable because of a wardec, then you probably joined a crappy corp. They're a dime a dozen. Try joining some people that know how to fight, or at least know how to keep playing when others mess with them. When people join a corp and don't provide a reason, its not because there's no reason. its because its too tiring to enumerate the hundreds of reasons. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 10772	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:52:00 - [11] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: Why would I do any of that when I can just stay in Perkone and do my thing? :P Because NPC corps have drawbacks, most notably when you post on the forums and people find your lack of corp disturbing. Other less notable NPC corp features would be higher taxes, ** NPC corp chat, the appearance of being an anti-social , lack of meaningful in game friendships and commeraderie, the inability to field more than 1 person as a defensive force ala herding cats, and not having a super cool corp logo and superleet corp title. I mentioned the whole forum thing about the lack of corp and its disturbing nature right?...because that a big one. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?**
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 3073	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:56:00 - [12] - Quote Join a noob corp. There's a cost/value equation that goes with joining an established corp. Joining my first noob corp, Demon Womb (snigg noobs) was the best decision I ever made in EvE. I leaned more in my time with them than I have at any other time in this game. You'll have the established players acting as a shield for you (to whatever degree). I can't tell you what a relief it was when I was ratting in my first Raven and some pirates jumped in, forcing me to cloak up, and then seeing a bunch of hard-core PvPer Sniggs jump in and camp the pirates until they were dead. It's also better to do it in Null... IMHO. cockandballs. Every. Time. EvE Spaceship Guide Works in game only and not updated often
Batelle HOMELE55 2201	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:58:00 - [13] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: Good Posting wrote: You can drop from your corp and the war won't follow you. Or create your own 1 man corp and you will be ignored by wardeccers because wardec you will cost them 50 mill and you can disband and create a new corp for 1.6 mill more or less. Or move to a lonely low sec region when you get wardecced and keep doing your pve thing. You have many posibilities to avoid high sec wardecs if you don't want to fight back, use them. Why would I do any of that when I can just stay in Perkone and do my thing? :P Because statistically speaking, you'll get bored and unsub. Because if you stay in an NPC corp, you'll be kind of isolated and less exposed to new things. Being a solo player makes a bit more sense once you've been around the block a few times, and even then you're probably better off in your own solo corp. Because the people that live in npc corps tend to be nitwits or scout alts. If you want to chat with random people, there are plenty of channels for that. Because the npc corp takes 11% of your cash money, instead of 0%. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Lilianna Star Perkone Caldari State 156	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:00:00 - [14] - Quote Gogela wrote: Join a noob corp. There's a cost/value equation that goes with joining an established corp. Joining my first noob corp, Demon Womb (snigg noobs) was the best decision I ever made in EvE. I leaned more in my time with them than I have at any other time in this game. You'll have the established players acting as a shield for you (to whatever degree). I can't tell you what a relief it was when I was ratting in my first Raven and some pirates jumped in, forcing me to cloak up, and then seeing a bunch of hard-core PvPer Sniggs jump in and camp the pirates until they were dead. It's also better to do it in Null... IMHO. I've actually been in a Null Sec alliance before. Hated it. They had territory but the rules were insane. As was the paranoia. First time I dropped the ball, bam. Blob jumped in and TPK. Including our only carrier. Not doing that again. Also the constant scrutiny of being a spy was no fun.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 3065	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:02:00 - [15] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Joining a corp that's worth a damn is kinda important. Why? Because if you join one that isn't worth a damn, you are basically wasting your time? That ought to be self explanatory. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Lilianna Star Perkone Caldari State 156	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:08:00 - [16] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Lilianna Star wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Joining a corp that's worth a damn is kinda important. Why? Because if you join one that isn't worth a damn, you are basically wasting your time? That ought to be self explanatory. I was actually asking at the time why I needed to join a corp at all. When I you are working by yourself, there's no one to backstab you.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 3065	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:10:00 - [17] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Lilianna Star wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Joining a corp that's worth a damn is kinda important. Why? Because if you join one that isn't worth a damn, you are basically wasting your time? That ought to be self explanatory. I was actually asking at the time why I needed to join a corp at all. When I am working by myself, there's no one to backstab you. Then be in an NPC corp, if working with others is distasteful. The major reason to be in a player corp is a potentially lower tax rate for various things, however. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Lilianna Star Perkone Caldari State 156	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:12:00 - [18] - Quote Yes, I think I will take up the advice to start up a solo corp. Thus begins Me, Myself and I Incorporated.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 3065	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:15:00 - [19] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: Yes, I think I will take up the advice to start up a solo corp. Thus begins Me, Myself and I Incorporated. Now for the other part. Don't announce stuff like you have been on the forums. I would not be surprised if you've been watchlisted since this thread started. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 413	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:18:00 - [20] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: Yes, I think I will take up the advice to start up a solo corp. Thus begins Me, Myself and I Incorporated. If you name and create the two free alts on your account (even if you never login play or train them ever again) and join them to your corp no one will even know its a solo corp.
Lilianna Star Perkone Caldari State 156	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:18:00 - [21] - Quote Yeah, I have no idea what that means. As long as people aren't going to start shooting me for no reason, I probably don't care much. If it means I can't join any more corps, good riddance.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 3065	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:24:00 - [22] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: Yeah, I have no idea what that means. As long as people aren't going to start shooting me for no reason, I probably don't care much. If it means I can't join any more corps, good riddance. Yep, that's what it means. By posting carebear sentiments here, and obviously on your main, you open yourself up to being watchlisted as an easy target and tracked down with locator agents. Which I highly recommend learning up on. Granted, being in a solo corp means that you can have no problem with disbanding and reforming corp once such a thing happens (barring suicide ganking anyway), so learning how to do that would be highly advantageous on your part as it basically makes the entire wardec concept utterly pointless. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Pix Severus School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 444	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:28:00 - [23] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: most notably when you post on the forums and people find your lack of corp disturbing. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: I mentioned the whole forum thing about the lack of corp and its disturbing nature right?...because that a big one. Am I disturbing you?
Lilianna Star Perkone Caldari State 156	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:34:00 - [24] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Lilianna Star wrote: Yeah, I have no idea what that means. As long as people aren't going to start shooting me for no reason, I probably don't care much. If it means I can't join any more corps, good riddance. Yep, that's what it means. By posting carebear sentiments here, and obviously on your main, you open yourself up to being watchlisted as an easy target and tracked down with locator agents. Which I highly recommend learning up on. Granted, being in a solo corp means that you can have no problem with disbanding and reforming corp once such a thing happens (barring suicide ganking anyway), so learning how to do that would be highly advantageous on your part as it basically makes the entire wardec concept utterly pointless. Alright. If a suicide squad comes my way, I'll say this: Goooood luuuuck ;D
Good Posting Posting with my Mind 117	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:40:00 - [25] - Quote Welcome to the wonderful world of solo man corps. After being in null sec blocks for years, i made my own corp too, 8 months back. I was really bored and tired of eve at that time and i almost quit the game, but decided to keep playing on my own and i'm a happy man. My only advice is this: don't do only pve or you will end bored, probably. Do some pvp, create and run your own content and for others that you will meet in your way. In null sec sov warfare, i was running content planned by others, but here i'm free and i do what i please: no corp rules, no diplos, no CTAs, no fleet pings, nothing. Just log in and have fun. I wish you good luck.
Gizznitt Malikite Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 3652	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:42:00 - [26] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: I remember one of the silver rules of EVE is to join a player corp as soon as possible. Bad idea imo. I got stung hard doing this because veterans said it was a good idea. Turns out that there's a pretty nasty disadvantage to that. War decs are fun . I'm not saying never join a corp, but if you want to join a corp have a reason first. It doesn't have to be a great reason, but it has to be a reason. Don't just join for its own sake. Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device. You didn't get stung because you joined a player corp. You got stung because you don't know how to handle being wardecced. Now, this is perhaps indicative that the player corp you joined wasn't a good choice either.
Lilianna Star Perkone Caldari State 156	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:45:00 - [27] - Quote Good Posting wrote: Welcome to the wonderful world of solo man corps. After being in null sec blocks for years, i made my own corp too, 8 months back. I was really bored and tired of eve at that time and i almost quit the game, but decided to keep playing on my own and i'm a happy man. My only advice is this: don't do only pve or you will end bored, probably. Do some pvp, create and run your own content and for others that you will meet in your way. In null sec sov warfare, i was running content planned by others, but here i'm free and i do what i please: no corp rules, no diplos, no CTAs, no fleet pings, nothing. Just log in and have fun. I wish you good luck. One thing I used to do back in the day before I was in any corp whatsoever was to go up into sov space, cloak up in random space and sit there. Then go and watch Youtube videos or watch TV or something. Occasionally I would "accidentally" type things in local chat like "Just tell me when you're ready to come in."
Silvetica Dian Manson Family Advent of Fate 795	Posted - 2014.03.11 23:24:00 - [28] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: I remember one of the silver rules of EVE is to join a player corp as soon as possible. Bad idea imo. I got stung hard doing this because veterans said it was a good idea. Turns out that there's a pretty nasty disadvantage to that. War decs are fun . I'm not saying never join a corp, but if you want to join a corp have a reason first. It doesn't have to be a great reason, but it has to be a reason. Don't just join for its own sake. Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device. The rule isn't join a player corp as soon as possible. It is join a GOOD player corp as soon as possible. This is actually quite hard and requires research. Almost all high sec corps are worthless or actually detrimental Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Shrewd Tsero Aventine Legion 35	Posted - 2014.03.11 23:30:00 - [29] - Quote Lilianna Star wrote: One thing I used to do back in the day before I was in any corp whatsoever was to go up into sov space, cloak up in random space and sit there. Then go and watch Youtube videos or watch TV or something. Occasionally I would "accidentally" type things in local chat like "Just tell me when you're ready to come in." Most of the enemies I've made were because of that. Is it just me, or is this person absolutely lovely? It is good to have substance to one's existence.-á But in the absence of substance, one can do much yet with style.
Eram Fidard Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 806	Posted - 2014.03.11 23:35:00 - [30] - Quote Sounds like you've only joined bad corps. Do some research. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.

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