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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1032
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Posted - 2014.03.12 00:38:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:Sounds like you've only joined bad corps. Do some research.
I see this a lot, but almost never any advice on what to actually look for, or even what the basic definition of a good corp is most of the time. |
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
502
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Posted - 2014.03.12 00:52:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Eram Fidard wrote:Sounds like you've only joined bad corps. Do some research. I see this a lot, but almost never any advice on what to actually look for, or even what the basic definition of a good corp is most of the time.
From the resources sticky in New Player Q&A
How to find the corp that is right for you By NightCrawler 85 |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
526
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Posted - 2014.03.12 02:17:00 -
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I spent three weeks on my own in an NPC corp to learn the ropes before I got sucked up into my husbands corp and dragged to null sec. That null sec experience was like drinking from a fire hydrant. I learned a ton but, as with most things in null sec, it ended badly. I find now that I look back fondly at the time I spent in the NPC corp.. where I met people who were not yet jaded and who perhaps trusted too easily and honestly.
-á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1032
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Posted - 2014.03.12 02:20:00 -
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Klymer wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Eram Fidard wrote:Sounds like you've only joined bad corps. Do some research. I see this a lot, but almost never any advice on what to actually look for, or even what the basic definition of a good corp is most of the time. From the resources sticky in New Player Q&AHow to find the corp that is right for you By NightCrawler 85 ...edited for moar links so even an npc corp alt can do it 
A fine example of a useful "do research post" |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
559
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Posted - 2014.03.12 02:25:00 -
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Shrewd Tsero wrote:... From my (limited) experience, if you're in a high sec corp, you're going to get decced at somepoint. Either because someone legitimately has a specific grudge against your corp and wants to play, or because there are just corps (one man or more) out there who's sole existence is based on deccing....
Or because the corp is terrible and after years still hasn't managed to move more than 12 jumps from Jita, thinks lowsec is certain death, null is impossible and wh only for complete autards.
Smug, smart-mouth mission runners can attract awful violence as well.
Most of all though, looking like a soft target with no combat experience or willingness, yeah, that really brings the heroes.
Disclaimer: i have solo wardecced corps for a single member being insubordinate in local, hit their weakest, least vigilant members and contracted cans full of newb corpses to the ceos after their surrender.
God.Damn.This game is awesome.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
418
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Posted - 2014.03.12 04:12:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Eram Fidard wrote:Sounds like you've only joined bad corps. Do some research. I see this a lot, but almost never any advice on what to actually look for, or even what the basic definition of a good corp is most of the time.
I think before you even start you need ... speak the same language you do, are active, and are in more or less the same time zone :D |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
9127
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Posted - 2014.03.12 04:23:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Other less notable NPC corp features would be higher taxes,
Or rather taxes that don't have any benefit to you.
Many player corps worth a damn have higher taxes than NPC corps but their members get something out of it as a result.
"Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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SB Rico
The Lone Runners
241
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Posted - 2014.03.12 04:54:00 -
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The main reason for not being in an npc corp or solo corp is the expanded content imho
In particular fleet activities and advise...
and yes war decs are part of that.
Unfortunately there are bad corps out there but a set of basic rule of thumb stuff I do look for tends to help me find out whether a corp is worth joining:
1. Check the size of the corp - small corps are fun, but since really you want a corp where there are people to play the game with try to go for a medium/bigger corp at first.
2. Check the age of the ceo - I try to avoid corps where the ceo is a newer player as you want to ensure there is someone who understands the game in charge, now ofc the ceo could be a new toon who is simply a ceo alt which is why the next point is worth doing...
3. Join their public channel and check the players in there on forums and employment history. Chat to those guys and see if they are people you want to spend your free time with.
4. CHECK THEIR KILLBOARD HISTORY - this has saved me a few times before I joined ganker corps - same corp kills should ring alarm bells.
5. Chat with the recruiter, do they seem generally friendly or do they seem like they see you as another body? Do they seem more interested in how much shiny stuff you have?
6. Ask them about war decs and check their war history - do they seem to have large numbers of decs where they lost lots of ships? Do they have decs where they killed lots of ships? Do they have a lot of brief decs where they had 0 kills or losses?
At the end of the day the game is not as rewarding solo, having said that I don't think you should be obliged to interact, if you are paying CCP money you should be able to play your way and continue funding them to create content for the rest of us :)
Scammers are currently selling killrights on this toon for up to 5mil, if you have paid for this service demand your money back at once.
Killing me should be for free. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1062
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Posted - 2014.03.12 07:36:00 -
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Just trick them few times into wardeccing your one player corp and then disband it, like a sneaky carebear should.
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Kaerf Arkanghel
Lusitan Initiative
5
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Posted - 2014.03.12 09:28:00 -
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this boggles my mind...why the heck would play an MMORPG if you want to solo?
Just Add Water |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
129
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Posted - 2014.03.12 10:28:00 -
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Kaerf Arkanghel wrote:this boggles my mind...why the heck would play an MMORPG if you want to solo?
I agree with you .. but since you asked; 1) because they're anti-social mouth breathers from WoW, 2) they want to play Eve but are intimidated by all of the asshats in the shark tank or 3) alts.
http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |
culo duro
EveryoneVersusEveryone.com
619
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Posted - 2014.03.12 10:29:00 -
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I'm sorry but you're the definition of why people quit eve.
it's an MMO interact with others, enjoy the game.
Find a corp you'd like to be in, sure you'll get decced at one point, but you know there's also pvp in eve.
Pvp is fun, especially with others you should try it.
Do you want to learn how to pvp? Take a look at www.everyoneversuseveryone.com (Heavily WIP) |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1062
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Posted - 2014.03.12 11:04:00 -
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I have seen someone interacting with others by playing with his 15 ganker alts and ganking freighters in this game. 
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Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
163
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Posted - 2014.03.12 13:42:00 -
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Kaerf Arkanghel wrote:this boggles my mind...why the heck would play an MMORPG if you want to solo?
The unfortunate reality is that there isn't a game like EVE. MMORPG or not.
That and while I don't like interacting with other players, I like the fact that they are there. If that makes any sense. |
Cynar Pappotte
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:03:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:Kaerf Arkanghel wrote:this boggles my mind...why the heck would play an MMORPG if you want to solo? The unfortunate reality is that there isn't a game like EVE. MMORPG or not. That and while I don't like interacting with other players, I like the fact that they are there. If that makes any sense.
Makes sense to me!
As a relative newbie I haven't looked to closely at the player corp side of things yet, (so correct me if something like this this already exists), but may the solution is to have the abilty for independent or 1-player corps to be able to form co-op type alliances? |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
417
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:07:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:Kaerf Arkanghel wrote:this boggles my mind...why the heck would play an MMORPG if you want to solo? The unfortunate reality is that there isn't a game like EVE. MMORPG or not. That and while I don't like interacting with other players, I like the fact that they are there. If that makes any sense.
Makes sense to me. Single player games are just lonely, MMO's give some comfort knowing that others are about, even if you are just going solo. People who can't understand are either trolling or lack any empathy towards others feelings. |
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
166
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Posted - 2014.03.12 15:17:00 -
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culo duro wrote:I'm sorry but you're the definition of why people quit eve.
it's an MMO interact with others, enjoy the game.
Find a corp you'd like to be in, sure you'll get decced at one point, but you know there's also pvp in eve.
Pvp is fun, especially with others you should try it.
So, because I don't like to PVP, I am somehow contributing to why people quit EVE?
The reason why I don't PVP is because I don't trust anyone to PVP with. 1v1's never happen either. So it would be suicide for me to PVP. |
culo duro
EveryoneVersusEveryone.com
622
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Posted - 2014.03.12 15:32:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:culo duro wrote:I'm sorry but you're the definition of why people quit eve.
it's an MMO interact with others, enjoy the game.
Find a corp you'd like to be in, sure you'll get decced at one point, but you know there's also pvp in eve.
Pvp is fun, especially with others you should try it. So, because I don't like to PVP, I am somehow contributing to why people quit EVE?
No, it's because you play eve as a single player experience.
While you seemingly seem to think that you can't win if you're outnumbered means you can't pvp is another subject.
I'd really recommend you to watch Garmonation or similiar things on youtube.
Plenty of people do solo pvp and destroy fleets.
Do you want to learn how to pvp? Take a look at www.everyoneversuseveryone.com (Heavily WIP) |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
801
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Posted - 2014.03.12 15:50:00 -
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SB Rico wrote:
5. Chat with the recruiter, do they seem generally friendly or do they seem like they see you as another body? Do they seem more interested in how much shiny stuff you have?
No one enters my corp (the corp i am in. it isn't owned by me) unless they are a close friend of a trusted member or they go through me. Most of that process is a longish chat about what the applicant is looking for in a corp/alliance, whether they are ready for losses /null , whether they seem a good match personality wise and what TZ they play in and whether or not they are French.
I see absolutely no point in adding numbers for the sake of numbers or of recruiting people who are not going to enjoy what we do. The recruitment interview should be a 2 way street where both sides research the background, aims and interests of the other.
I also check killboards, posting history, API , employment history etc etc and link our killboard and anything else requested by the candidate. I expect them to have done some basic research independantly as well because blindly trusting the propaganda of a recruiter is foolish in any context.
Money at its root is a form of rationing.
When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
150
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:18:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:I remember one of the silver rules of EVE is to join a player corp as soon as possible.
Far better to stay in the rookie corp 2 or 3 months minimum. It's a lot more helpful environment than probably anywhere and you're protected until you can find a what you want to do. |
Organic Lager
Devils Diciples
League of Infamy
18
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:27:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:Good Posting wrote:You can drop from your corp and the war won't follow you.
Or create your own 1 man corp and you will be ignored by wardeccers because wardec you will cost them 50 mill and you can disband and create a new corp for 1.6 mill more or less.
Or move to a lonely low sec region when you get wardecced and keep doing your pve thing.
You have many posibilities to avoid high sec wardecs if you don't want to fight back, use them. Why would I do any of that when I can just stay in Perkone and do my thing? :P
15% npc corp tax?
Creating your own corp is probably best 0 taxes and 0 wardecs |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
5040
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:31:00 -
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Op thinks joining a corp for no reason is the problem, when the actual problem is being in high sec. |
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
166
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:32:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Op thinks joining a corp for no reason is the problem, when the actual problem is being in high sec.
I thought other players shoot you more in Low Sec/Null Sec/Wormhole
Am I wrong about that? |
Azeroth Uluntil
e X i l e
The Initiative.
12
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:39:00 -
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I'd say it's more an issue of the cluelessness of the op... Just my personal opinion though. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
348
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:39:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Op thinks joining a corp for no reason is the problem, when the actual problem is being in high sec. I thought other players shoot you more in Low Sec/Null Sec/Wormhole Am I wrong about that?
Depends on where you go. High sec is dangerous for me, while I feel at home in low sec.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
610
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:40:00 -
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NPC corp taxes should be set at 50%, as disincentive to players hiding out there forever. Disincentive mind you, not force. If you want to be safe from wars, you should pay a premium for that; current tax rate differentials are laughable given the protections received.
Players should go into a 1-week stasis, when leaving a corp/alliance under wardec. The current exploit of ducking wars by dropping corp must be immediately closed.
Wardec fees should go into a bucket claimable by the defenders, as incentive to come out and fight
Until these changes happen, I will keep killing-it-forward.
F
Would you like to know more? |
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
167
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:41:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Lilianna Star wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Op thinks joining a corp for no reason is the problem, when the actual problem is being in high sec. I thought other players shoot you more in Low Sec/Null Sec/Wormhole Am I wrong about that? Depends on where you go. High sec is dangerous for me, while I feel at home in low sec.
I guess I could try low sec for a while. No warp bubbles would make things a lot easier. |
Organic Lager
Devils Diciples
League of Infamy
18
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:44:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:culo duro wrote:I'm sorry but you're the definition of why people quit eve.
it's an MMO interact with others, enjoy the game.
Find a corp you'd like to be in, sure you'll get decced at one point, but you know there's also pvp in eve.
Pvp is fun, especially with others you should try it. So, because I don't like to PVP, I am somehow contributing to why people quit EVE? The reason why I don't PVP is because I don't trust anyone to PVP with. 1v1's never happen either. So it would be suicide for me to PVP.
Don't listen to the pvp or bust crowd. This is your sandbox play how you want, build your sand castles how you want.
You can join chat rooms (like eve uni) and fleet with people if you're ever lonely. If and when you're ready to try something new like pvp that is when it would be a good time to join like minded people in a corp. |
Pew Terror
Green Associates
115
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:49:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:I remember one of the silver rules of EVE is to join a player corp as soon as possible. Bad idea imo. I got stung hard doing this because veterans said it was a good idea. Turns out that there's a pretty nasty disadvantage to that. War decs are fun  . I'm not saying never join a corp, but if you want to join a corp have a reason first. It doesn't have to be a great reason, but it has to be a reason. Don't just join for its own sake. Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device.
I'd say newbros learning about wardecs is a really good reason in itself. Personally i learned about wardecs when hauling half my fortune through hisec while in a JC service corp that was decced to bits.
One of the worst thing you can do in this game is try to play it safe for too long. Jumping into low/null in your T1 frig should fill you with joy instead of fear asap. |
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
167
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:56:00 -
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Pew Terror wrote:Lilianna Star wrote:I remember one of the silver rules of EVE is to join a player corp as soon as possible. Bad idea imo. I got stung hard doing this because veterans said it was a good idea. Turns out that there's a pretty nasty disadvantage to that. War decs are fun . I'm not saying never join a corp, but if you want to join a corp have a reason first. It doesn't have to be a great reason, but it has to be a reason. Don't just join for its own sake. Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device. I'd say newbros learning about wardecs is a really good reason in itself. Personally i learned about wardecs when hauling half my fortune through hisec while in a JC service corp that was decced to bits. One of the worst thing you can do in this game is try to play it safe for too long. Jumping into low/null in your T1 frig should fill you with joy instead of fear asap.
I guess. I only lost a Bantam from the ordeal so I guess it was a good lesson to learn.
Though I don't know why going into low/null should "fill me with joy instead of fear." I naturally don't want to lose and if I run into someone else I am guaranteed to lose unless I duck out in time. So yeah, it is reasonable to fear the unprotected areas. |
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