We currently receive 2 bonus remaps for ech character.

If we instead changed that to a skill point loss to remap, we would lose these right?

If this became the mechanic to remap, what would happen each 12 months. We still get a free remap, or do we have ti pay skill points each year to remap?

Why have remap at all? I can't change my expertise or IQ/EQ in real life without growing and studying, so why make it possible in game?

No. If you want to do something else, just train it.

Alternatively, just ask them to remove skills entirely since that's effectively what you're suggesting.

Seems illogical to me.

I don't want to be a scientist anymore, I want to be a plumber.

Please don't make me study, just convert my scientific knowledge into plumbing and local planning knowledge.

Doesn't really work as far as I'm concerned. Sorry.

What you're asking makes attribute remaps pointless since they no longer serve any purpose. In fact, it makes attributes pointless since they no longer serve any purpose. All you do is remap for Int/mem and fill your queue with science skills that will train at a fixed 2700 SP/h (or 23,652,000 SP per year) that you then put into whatever you want. Picking one attribute combo over another is no longer relevant since your choice of skills no longer matter GÇö just how much SP/h you can squeeze out, and that part is trivial to maximise. So your suggestion effectively removes attributes (and the ability to remap them) as meaningful game mechanics and they might as well just be cut from the game.

And no, 10% is not balanced. Bump it up to, say, 80% with an absolute minimum loss of 30M and you might approach something that would actually make it at least remotely punishing to use. But the main problem remains: it just outright removes large portions of the game. To use the age-old copypasta to highlight the most glaring problems with SP remappingGǪ

It removes the point of having skills to begin with.
It removes the point of having attributes.
It removes attribute implants from the game.
It removes variety and instead encourages FOTM and cookie-cutter setups.
It removes the uniqueness, history and "character" of your character.
It removes planning and choice and consequences.
It removes goal-setting, progression and any achievement in those areas.
It kills character trading.
It massively boosts older characters over new ones.
It introduces "catching up" as a concept in EVE and instantly makes it impossible to do.

It hurts my gameplay by removing all skill progression. Once you have enough SP GÇö after no more than a year or two GÇö you can remap it to cover anything and everything in the game as if you had been playing for 20 years. It hurts my gameplay by turning the game into an XP/Level-grinding game rather than a game where thoughtful application of training time gives me an edge over those who weren't thoughtful.

Because that's the direct consequence of what you're suggesting: that time spent going down a certain training path no longer counts towards that particular path but any path of equal length. Skill choices no longer distinguish characters and they just become infinitely mutable piles of SP, where more SP is always better.

It hurts my gameplay by removing all skill progression. Once you have enough SP GÇö after no more than a year or two GÇö you can remap it to cover anything and everything in the game as if you had been playing for 20 years. It hurts my gameplay by turning the game into an XP/Level-grinding game rather than a game where thoughtful application of training time gives me an edge over those who weren't thoughtful.

This game has no "try before you buy" regarding ships.

Someone may choose to want to fly a Golem. Why a golem? I don't know, this is just an example. Maybe whoever the guy is decided that a golem looked like it would be fun to fly. So he's spent 110 days reaching the point where he can fly a golem. He spends another 90 days training up all the skills necessary to fly it "really well".

To him, the Golem sucks. Having had no 100% accurate way to determine if flying a golem is something he would enjoy, because he's told to "make a plan", he made one and it turned out to be something he didn't enjoy.

Now he's stuck with a character in a game he spent 200 days working towards something he doesn't enjoy. He knows there's a possibility that he could be enjoying another aspect of the game that takes 200 days to enter, but he can't. He's screwed.

Now because you're entitled elitist who attribute value to being able to wait longer than others (hahaha I can stand being bored more than you can nah nah nah nah nah), you would rather that person feel as though he's made an irreversible mistake and QUIT THE GAME.

You're so dependent on EVE to prop up your ego that you'd rather people quit the game than have the opportunity to remap their skill points to maintain the possibility of interest to keep playing.

(inb4 some idiot wants to spend 3 hours arguing over why I personally would want to choose a golem when I clearly stated it was an arbitrarily picked example. It seems people have a hard time with hypotheticals here)