I know exactly what you mean, it does just seem to get more and more to keep my accounts going and the cost of ore is staying the same. I think it wont be long before it start forcing high sec players out of the game.

is it some ploy by CCP to force us to use RL cash to line there greedy CCP pockets?

Yeah, we should create a committee of university professors, mothers, and community activists to decide the fair price for a plex.

You are meant to enjoy EVE Online. If you have an increasingly hard time funding subscription via ingame PLEX, then I suggest that you pay with actual dollars to play this great game.

If everyone were to use ingame means to fund their subscription, CCP would be bankrupt and we will be left with Star Citizen dingleberry poop..

So, everyone complaining on this forum about the cost of PLEX really should be looking at the members of this forum, and not complaining about CCP.

Yeah, lets go gank some of those 20-alt mackinaw gangs and hope they stop playing, that's one way to decrease demand.

So, everyone complaining on this forum about the cost of PLEX really should be looking at the members of this forum, and not complaining about CCP.

When i joined eve i remember a plex was 500m isk at best, now to plex my accounts it's costing me almost 700m isk and going up. Is there a reason for this and is it some ploy by CCP to force us to use RL cash to line there greedy CCP pockets?

I don't know how PLEX works or supply and demand but the cost is up so I blame CCP for being greedy.

The usual "Occupy Wall Street" mentality. Blame corporations and large companies for all the worlds' problems.

Yeah why blame the people who own the entire planet for how it's doing? You just have to become one of them, it's that simple. Just be less poor.

The rich may "own the entire planet" but that doesn't give them super-human powers.

Owning something, be it a car, home, company or country doesn't mean you can fix its problems... or even understand them.

When i joined eve i remember a plex was 500m isk at best, now to plex my accounts it's costing me almost 700m isk and going up.

Is there a reason for this

Therefore, all your seeing is supply and demand.

Yeah why blame the people who own the entire planet for how it's doing? You just have to become one of them, it's that simple. Just be less poor.

The same applies to all items in the game, even PLEX. The difference is that PLEX doesn't grow on trees, per se. There are no "PLEX belts" you can mine for an infinitely respawning source of PLEX.

If everyone were to use ingame means to fund their subscription, CCP would be bankrupt and we will be left with Star Citizen dingleberry poop.

As much as we love free stuff, there should be some boundary. CCP is already doing a great favor by letting the experienced to be able to fund the subscription via PLEX.

You are meant to enjoy EVE Online. If you have an increasingly hard time funding subscription via ingame PLEX, then I suggest that you pay with actual dollars to play this great game.

How about we just burn jita

When i joined eve i remember a plex was 500m isk at best, now to plex my accounts it's costing me almost 700m isk and going up. Is there a reason for this and is it some ploy by CCP to force us to use RL cash to line there greedy CCP pockets?

I dont think you understand how plexes work... CCP isnt selling them to you, other players are. A player spends real money to buy plexes and then sells these plexes to you, CCP loses no money on this. All plexes do is change who pays the subscription fee for your account.

I miss paying 370 mill isk for 90 day GTC's :(

Thus, if you want to exchange your ISK for PLEX, you'll want to do it now, while the ISK is still worth more than 4 milliseconds of gametime.

And you thought your middle school algebra wouldn't ever be useful to

I can sell you in private contract a PLEX for 680M !

Send me a private message if you are interested.

While some of your logic is valid, the idea that something of scarcity is guaranteed to increased in price is completely incorrect.

I would estimate that PLEX is currently above its true value due to the large number of largely uninformed speculators.

Investing in PLEX when it is peaking will mean decrease the value of the investment, better to invest in conventional items until the bubble pops, then go for the long term investment.

Also in all of this it is worth noting the opportunity cost, the ISK you earn from investing in PLEX even over a peroid of relatively good growth is not 'free ISK' chances are more could have been made by investing in something with steeper growth and you may have made an opportunity loss, although long term it'll still be ok

I see it as a question of time (man-hours). A trader will be able to spend more time/effort flipping commodities to make more ISK. An "investor", per se, will be able to spend more time/effort swing trading to maximize longer-term profit off of price movements. A rich brat with too much money will be pretty happy to spend no time and no effort for the relative certainty of not losing buying power over time.

And indeed, since we are talking about investing smartly, and not about station trading, or about dumping ISK into a commodity that is relatively stable, you are absolutely correct that there are better items to trade for better profit.

I know exactly what you mean, it does just seem to get more and more to keep my accounts going and the cost of ore is staying the same. I think it wont be long before it start forcing high sec players out of the game.

It will be interesting to see what happens over the next year or so.

If PLEX hit 1B or even 2 B then we should see a big drop in the number of people who can afford to pay their accounts using PLEX. However if people can sell their PLEX for 2B isk I imagine many more people paying real life money to be in game rich (assuming PLEX has increased more than general inflation)

The piece of the puzzle I am looking forward to playing out is mineral supply. We all know a huge % of the mineral supply comes from multiboxing miners paying for their 10+ accounts with PLEX. If they can't afford to pay with PLEX, will they move to paying for those accounts with real money? Or will we see a big drop in mineral supply as they let most of their accounts lapse.

There should a threshold for the Buyer Order on any item specially the PLEX since it is related to real money!

In practice, the price of a PLEX is what someone is willing to pay for it, and what someone is willing to sell for. No more, no less. So whether or not you feel like below-average buy orders are skewing the charts, that's still what those buyers are paying for their PLEX, and that's what the people selling to those buy order are willing to sell for.

you can't put a 1$ Buy Order for a Ferrari...

You're right and wrong in that, because after-all you can't put a 1$ Buy Order for a Ferrari...

Yes, you can.

Please, stop posting.

Oh really? Sure you can! You can do anything!
But you should go and try it, and don't forget to come back and share us your experience

But you should go and try it, and don't forget to come back and share us your experience

There. I've placed a buy order on a Ferrari for a dollar. Are you satisfied?

I liked and respected your point of view in what you replied previously.
But for this one, you should recognize the difference between a "bidding" and placing a final and complete "buy order"!

I don't think you understand the terminology of what a buy order means..

I liked and respected your point of view in what you replied previously.
But for this one, you should recognize the difference between a "bidding" and placing a final and complete "buy order"!

Oh really? Sure you can! You can do anything!
But you should go and try it, and don't forget to come back and share us your experience

Three years ago PLEX were 360m, roughly. If you accept that it's linear, then you can plug in what we've got (setting 3 years ago as x=0 and y=360, today as x=1095 and y=652) into a linear equation and approximate plex price as y=(4/15)*x+360.

Plug 1b in for Y, solve for X, and you get 2400.

i'm quite horrible at maths, maybe kindergarten level would be a compliment
but can you please explain to me how you got to 2400, and what's the (4/15)*x for ?

Yeah I wonder if some people are investing in plexes so they can sit on them for years and sell them slowly when they need extra isk.

I remember paying 315mil for 100day codes, and 115 for 30s. I also remember having to pay 15$ for this game, for years. So quit bitching you get to play for free and stop being poor.