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Dr Awsome
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Posted - 2006.04.27 00:59:00 -
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Domi gets a bonus to Drones, Not heavy drones, just drones, not just thermal drones, just drones.......so thats 4x different types of scout drones 4x medium drones 4x heavy drones 4x sentry drones ---------------- 16 different types of damage mods
before you argue about the raven, it gets 4x cruise 4x torp ----------------- 8 different types of damage....
Does any other BS get a damage bonus to all of it's size's of weapons?
Any opinions?
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3GG H34D
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Posted - 2006.04.27 01:02:00 -
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.04.27 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: Gronsak on 27/04/2006 01:02:31 you forgot the damage bonous to blasters and rails 
not to mention if u gave it only a bonous to heavy drones then any ship with a drone bay would do the same damage drone for drone as the domi which shouldnt be the case
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2006.04.27 01:03:00 -
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Drones deal a lot less damage than most racks of large weapons ? it also only gets damage bonus to large hybrids, not medium and small (and even the domi fitting a rack of 350mm rails will probably double its own drone's damage)
As to damage types, I believe the dev's statement was "If the domi won't use the other types, who will ?" . ----- Apologies for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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J'val Iktar
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Posted - 2006.04.27 01:05:00 -
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Don't forget the T2 variants.
Seriously, whats the point of this post?
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.04.27 01:06:00 -
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we all know this makes the domi so overpowered that its the most piloted ship 
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DoctorColossal Pervius
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Posted - 2006.04.27 01:18:00 -
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Yes an opinion. True it does have a bonus to small, med and large drones and maybe this needs looking into, ie. restricting to just heavies. The rest of your post is bucking follox tbh. Several ships do multiple damage types whats your point? As for the 16 dmg mods. Eh?
It is so boring to read whines about how the ship is flown by everybody (as per last poster). If you don't want to follow the crowd of "drones" then guess what? DON'T! You have a choice. Make it. Enjoy the game!
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Hydrian Alante
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Posted - 2006.04.27 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: 3GG H34D This thread was not worth reading.
QFT
nuff said
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Cpt Placeholder
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Posted - 2006.04.27 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Awsome Any opinions?
yes... this is a pointless whine
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.04.27 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Awsome Domi gets a bonus to Drones, Not heavy drones, just drones, not just thermal drones, just drones.......so thats 4x different types of scout drones 4x medium drones 4x heavy drones 4x sentry drones ---------------- 16 different types of damage mods
before you argue about the raven, it gets 4x cruise 4x torp ----------------- 8 different types of damage....
Does any other BS get a damage bonus to all of it's size's of weapons?
Any opinions?
Wrong wrong wrong!
A dominix gets these bonuses: 3 types of railguns, 3 types of blasters, 8 types of tech 1 ammo for each hybrid gun + 4 tech 2 ammo types. And those drones you mentioned... so I guess 52+16 = 68 damage modifiers!
A Raven gets: Cruise + Torps * 4 types of tech 1 ammo each, and 8 types of tech 2 ammo for each launcher type! Thats 64 damage bonuses!
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Blanche Virgo
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Posted - 2006.04.27 02:33:00 -
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You forgot the damage bonus vs asteroids for mining drones, that's like, even more..... 
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.27 02:43:00 -
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FFS NERF THE DOMI!

Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
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Aversin
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Posted - 2006.04.27 03:47:00 -
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This isn't the reason the dominix is overpowered, but I could use some looking into.
Originally by: Razner Cerizo They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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Dr Awsome
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Posted - 2006.04.27 04:00:00 -
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The main gripe is a domi can fit 5x heavy 5x sentry 5x scout and 5x med drones, so its suitable at kill inty, frig, assault, cruiser, hac, recon, and bs with the same nos, ew, tank setup. Its what ccp promised not to create, a solo pwnable ship. It is what the raven was pre cold war and look what happened to that, a raven wont fit standard or heavy launchers to fight frigs and cruisers because it doesnt get a bonus to ALL missile damages. So why can the domi fit every size drone and just send out whatever it needs to in the situation. That doesnt seem the least bit off compared to other ships?
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.04.27 04:03:00 -
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carriers do same thing but without the drone bonus ,why not start a nerf carrier to only be able to launch fighters thread.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2006.04.27 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: 3GG H34D This thread was not worth reading.
Too late _ __
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Gregorri
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Posted - 2006.04.27 04:12:00 -
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Ok so basically you got omgwtfpwnd by a dominix and you come here to make an alt to cry about it.
yup....next.
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Dri Kulsane
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Posted - 2006.04.27 04:30:00 -
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They are not that good. They are a massive defence ship when setup that way, but it's not how your described it.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.04.27 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: 3GG H34D This thread was not worth reading.
Too late
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.04.27 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: 3GG H34D This thread was not worth reading.
Too late
Yeah, I want my time back. 
Signed,
Domi is overpowered... we all know this. this thread is dumb 
Alliaanna
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: 3GG H34D This thread was not worth reading.
Too late
Yeah, I want my time back. 
Signed,
Domi is overpowered... we all know this. this thread is dumb 
Alliaanna
overpowered how, ecm is whats overpowered, not the domi
Originally by: Tamora > its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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Lucus Ranger
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:24:00 -
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Indeed, it is ECM that makes the Domi powerfull, not so much the drones.
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:26:00 -
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domi has +1 drone controlled per level bonus, represented as the drone damage bonus for lag reduction.
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Klurig
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:30:00 -
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The reason the domi has a dmg bonus across the board is because of its old bonus. The old bonus was +1 drone controlled per level, not +1 large thermal drone per level, this was only changed because apparantly it caused too much lag with more then 5 drones per ship in space. The new bonus made the domi pretty much unchanged from the drone changes if you dont consider its effectiveness with the new drones (which werent in there before the drone change anyway so thats a useless comparison after all).
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Awsome Any opinions?
I'm going to make an exception because it's getting VERY tiresome.
Sir, that was a stupid point you had there in the OP. Very stupid.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:42:00 -
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Ive not read this thread other than the OP, but the major problem with drone ships and drones in general being better than 'normal' weapon systems, is that ships with drone bonuses dont get their bonus limited to size.
Most battleships get a bonus to large weapons of some kind. Why does the Domi get a bonus to its small, medium, and large weapons? The same goes for other drone carriers.
Realistically, drone ships will never be balanced by the disadvantages that other ships face unless the drone bonuses are changed to be size-specific. There's no reason that a Domi should be able to take on ships of all sizes via one weapon system.
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest Ive not read this thread other than the OP, but the major problem with drone ships and drones in general being better than 'normal' weapon systems, is that ships with drone bonuses dont get their bonus limited to size.
Most battleships get a bonus to large weapons of some kind. Why does the Domi get a bonus to its small, medium, and large weapons? The same goes for other drone carriers.
Realistically, drone ships will never be balanced by the disadvantages that other ships face unless the drone bonuses are changed to be size-specific. There's no reason that a Domi should be able to take on ships of all sizes via one weapon system.
Your answer you seek is in this thread:
Originally by: Klurig The reason the domi has a dmg bonus across the board is because of its old bonus. The old bonus was +1 drone controlled per level, not +1 large thermal drone per level, this was only changed because apparantly it caused too much lag with more then 5 drones per ship in space. The new bonus made the domi pretty much unchanged from the drone changes if you dont consider its effectiveness with the new drones (which werent in there before the drone change anyway so thats a useless comparison after all).
Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.04.27 09:12:00 -
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Look domi is also the only ship that is able to leave 1/3 of firepower behind when you have to warp out. Also the only ship that needs less than 1 click to activate weapons...
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.04.27 09:50:00 -
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I want my 5 minutes back :(
sgb
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.04.27 09:51:00 -
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CPP PLEASE NERF EVE, IT'S OVERPOWERED
(also, nerf my keyboard)
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