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Prie Mary Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 52	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:12:00 - [1] - Quote Can I use smartbombs in highsec without getting concorded? I am aware of the safety options and to even activate it I have to go safety red, so I assumed this ment instant concordokken upon activation, Or may I use smartbombs, just have to go safety red, but as long as I hit no other capsuleer/structure concord wont show up? Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it...
Goe Rilla 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:13:00 - [2] - Quote Stop what you're doing and go read this thread instead: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=329372&find=unread
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20108	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:16:00 - [3] - Quote The latter. However, there is really no reason to ever use them in highsec that doesn't involve CONCORD coming to get you anyway so you'd want to turn the safeties off regardlessGÇª GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Erotica 1 Krypteia Operations CODE. 4310	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:18:00 - [4] - Quote Yes you can use them in highsec. That said, expect people to try to get close to you for a good laugh. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Prie Mary Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 52	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:25:00 - [5] - Quote Tippia wrote: The latter. However, there is really no reason to ever use them in highsec that doesn't involve CONCORD coming to get you anyway so you'd want to turn the safeties off regardlessGÇª Smartbombing a WT's mining fleet :) Thanks for the helpful answers guys Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it...
March rabbit Federal Defense Union 1345	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:28:00 - [6] - Quote Erotica 1 wrote: Yes you can use them in highsec. That said, expect people to try to get close to you for a good laugh. this ^^ it's (was some time ago) common trick to some gankers to cloaked get close to smartbombing ship just to flag him The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Silvetica Dian Manson Family Advent of Fate 824	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:31:00 - [7] - Quote Prie Mary wrote: Tippia wrote: The latter. However, there is really no reason to ever use them in highsec that doesn't involve CONCORD coming to get you anyway so you'd want to turn the safeties off regardlessGÇª Smartbombing a WT's mining fleet :) Thanks for the helpful answers guys Just remember that warping in one neutral alt whilst these are running will get you concorded and that i why safety red is needed to activate. also fraps the kills and if you have a spy inside the war targets corp get them to record comms so you can splice their comms to your video. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Lugia3 Emerald Inc. 885	Posted - 2014.03.16 05:10:00 - [8] - Quote Send the cloaked warp-in alt a duel before he gets on grid. Enjoy. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik
Antisocial Malkavian Antisocial Malkavians 336	Posted - 2014.03.16 05:27:00 - [9] - Quote Goe Rilla wrote: Stop what you're doing and go read this thread instead: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=329372&find=unread locked ftl http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears you will be harvested
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 3156	Posted - 2014.03.16 06:22:00 - [10] - Quote In general, it's a good idea to not use smartbombs in highsec. You can accidentally lose lots of sec status if people decide to warp pods in on you, in addition to losing your ship to CONCORD. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Shederov Blood Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 885	Posted - 2014.03.16 06:52:00 - [11] - Quote Tippia wrote: However, there is really no reason to ever use them in highsec that doesn't involve CONCORD coming to get you anyway I can think of one. This should be of interest to the OP too.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 17123	Posted - 2014.03.16 07:52:00 - [12] - Quote Shederov Blood wrote: Tippia wrote: However, there is really no reason to ever use them in highsec that doesn't involve CONCORD coming to get you anyway I can think of one. This should be of interest to the OP too. This one is quite amusing too You can find the person behind Socratic bleating in various comment threads on CCPs facebook page about how CCP have victimised him for picking on newbies in Arnon. Psychotic Monk for CSM 9
Shederov Blood Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 885	Posted - 2014.03.16 08:26:00 - [13] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Shederov Blood wrote: Tippia wrote: However, there is really no reason to ever use them in highsec that doesn't involve CONCORD coming to get you anyway I can think of one. This should be of interest to the OP too. This one is quite amusing too You can find the person behind Socratic bleating in various comment threads on CCPs facebook page about how CCP have victimised him for picking on newbies in Arnon. Amusing for sure, but that involved CONCORD.
Divine Entervention The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies 210	Posted - 2014.03.16 08:27:00 - [14] - Quote Hahaha, is this the one? Has this thread found the golden ticket? Your choice. You make the call. You don't even want to get me started on smart bombs. Proof of lying in thread. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703
Shederov Blood Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 885	Posted - 2014.03.16 08:31:00 - [15] - Quote Divine Entervention wrote: Hahaha, is this the one? Has this thread found the golden ticket? Your choice. You make the call. You don't even want to get me started on smart bombs. Yes! Yes, I do! What's so funny?
Divine Entervention The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies 210	Posted - 2014.03.16 08:41:00 - [16] - Quote Shederov Blood wrote: Divine Entervention wrote: Hahaha, is this the one? Has this thread found the golden ticket? Your choice. You make the call. You don't even want to get me started on smart bombs. Yes! Yes, I do! What's so funny? Thats a fantastic background your character has. You're probably a really awesome person since you show some similarities with me, me being someone who is more superior than just about everyone else because of my out look on life and through my interaction with individuals, caring for them and their needs hoping to bring our society another step up on the ladder of societal progress.. Hop onto my magic carpet and I'll show you the world. Unless of course you're one of those people people. They know who they are. The ones who's minds don't function properly and they perceive existence through the brown stained glass barriers erected to protect their egos. Proof of lying in thread. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 17124	Posted - 2014.03.16 08:47:00 - [17] - Quote Shederov Blood wrote: Amusing for sure, but that involved CONCORD. My bad , you can't deny it's an appropriate use of smarties in highsec though Psychotic Monk for CSM 9
Shederov Blood Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 885	Posted - 2014.03.16 08:55:00 - [18] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Shederov Blood wrote: Amusing for sure, but that involved CONCORD. My bad , you can't deny it's an appropriate use of smarties in highsec though That was a horrible thing to do! And to such a nice person too.
Divine Entervention The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies 210	Posted - 2014.03.16 09:04:00 - [19] - Quote Ya know, it kind of sucks that concord has to exist. They're essentially like, NPC guards who show up to protect people who don't feel like employing the methods necessary to ensure their own survivability. Why should an entire safe guard exist designed towards showing up to "save" people be in place when all it does is limit the potential of others wanting to have fun? This is a game where, granted, you get to choose what it is you wish to do, but that doesn't mean you should be able to do it without feeling that at any point in time someone can show up and take advantage of whatever situation you've put yourself in. But then, to focus on the fact that we all get to choose just how we wish to play this "define your own goals" game of EvE we all play, sadly there exists a type of people who put their own desire to have fun above others and care so little about those they abuse that they don't even care about their personal feelings. So Concord has to exist not to punish you for accidentally setting off your smart bomb you meant to kill NPCs in high sec, but to prevent you from the people who would abuse using smart bombs to prove that through their actions they are bad people. Because bad people exist, Concord has to as well, and show up when you make a simple mistake such as blowing up an innocent guy with your accidentally misplaced smart bomb. Blame the bad people, they ruin everything. Proof of lying in thread. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703
Suned Viziam Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2014.03.16 10:54:00 - [20] - Quote Won't you get concorded if you hit a nearby asteroid though?
Mayhaw Morgan State War Academy Caldari State 217	Posted - 2014.03.16 11:16:00 - [21] - Quote Suned wrote: Won't you get concorded if you hit a nearby asteroid though? I think you only lose standing with the asteroid's faction and corporation.
StudleyManiac Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Illusion of Solitude 5	Posted - 2014.03.16 16:12:00 - [22] - Quote Quote: Ya know, it kind of sucks that concord has to exist. They're essentially like, NPC guards who show up to protect people who don't feel like employing the methods necessary to ensure their own survivability. Why should an entire safe guard exist designed towards showing up to "save" people be in place when all it does is limit the potential of others wanting to have fun? Hmmm what you seem to forget is that Concord shows up AFTER the event just like the police... they are not around to protect you they are around to catch/punish the culprits. Concord hasn't saved even one ship from blowing up unless the suicide gankers are mentally challenged and can't tie their shoes. There is nothing wrong with Concord it is just your whole premise of Concord as protector of HS is flawed.
Serene Repose Saanen Freight Service 1014	Posted - 2014.03.16 18:58:00 - [23] - Quote Smartbombs always had a little warning appear, "Are you sure you want to do this?" Made clicking on one for the first time seem like not such a smart thing to do. (I still love the irony.) Problem was they don't require a locked target to set off, and as they pulse, of course, they're a source of damage...which then brings Concord to the scene should you nick someone who gets too close. Now, with the safety thing on the heads up display, a bit more mystery is added. If you didn't know about smartbombs before, this added feature makes it even more interesting, and I imagine a tad confusing. Other things like bombs, or cynos, just don't work in HS. A little note comes up and says, "This just won't work in HS, dummy." That too doesn't make you feel too smart. Afterall, smartbombs are the only weapons where it says right on the label it's smart. Then, you have to ask yourself, "If they're so smart, why doesn't everybody just use them instead of all these guns and lasers and missiles and stuff?" Call in your drones while you have a smartbomb running. There's a quick answer to that. In fact, the more you think about it, the more "smartbomb" just doesn't make sense as a name. Smartbombs are intended to be so precise, and so effective even a chimpanzee can use them with surgical precision, since they think for themselves. But, this bomb is a "blow everything up and let Concord sort it out" bomb. It should be called the "Dummy Bomb." A dumb bomb for dummies. Where was I? Oh yeah. SO, that "safety". But for smartbombs I can't think of another use for it. Can you? I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
Sister of Pain Ze DoucheWaffe 19	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:05:00 - [24] - Quote March rabbit wrote: Erotica 1 wrote: Yes you can use them in highsec. That said, expect people to try to get close to you for a good laugh. this ^^ it's (was some time ago) common trick to some gankers to cloaked get close to smartbombing ship just to flag him I saw a Venture in a belt a while back with a smartbomb in the utility slot. He was trying to blast a couple belt rats that were orbiting him. Being the helpful type, I locked the rats and sent one drone over there to help the poor lad. Pain is inevitable, but the suffering is optional. This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.-á Locked. - CCP Falcon
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 457	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:29:00 - [25] - Quote Or you could just fit s rack of SBs and park near a major station for about 20 minutes so people have time to stealth scan you and then warp off somewhere and do nothing at all and see how many cloaky ninja types follow you.
Sabriz Adoudel Mission BLITZ 2275	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:40:00 - [26] - Quote Finding someone using smartbombs is the holy grail of mission invasion. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance 134	Posted - 2014.03.19 12:15:00 - [27] - Quote March rabbit wrote: Erotica 1 wrote: Yes you can use them in highsec. That said, expect people to try to get close to you for a good laugh. this ^^ it's (was some time ago) common trick to some gankers to cloaked get close to smartbombing ship just to flag him confirming CONCORDOKKEN is hilarious http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb
Pew Terror Green Associates TITANS. 141	Posted - 2014.03.19 12:54:00 - [28] - Quote Shederov Blood wrote: Tippia wrote: However, there is really no reason to ever use them in highsec that doesn't involve CONCORD coming to get you anyway I can think of one. This should be of interest to the OP too. THANK YOU!
Cebraio 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 402	Posted - 2014.03.19 14:07:00 - [29] - Quote Smartbombs will get you concordokkened if you hit anything neutral. As far as I know this also includes "neutral" objects like asteroids, but this may have changed meanwhile.

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