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Maximillian Pele
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Posted - 2006.05.01 03:04:00 -
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The reason people don't pay ransoms is threads like this.
The reason people fit multiple WCS, create thousands of instas, fly alts through gates first, etc, is threads like this.
In reality the best bet for a pirate would be to ransom you, then blow you away and take the loot. Best of both worlds plus maximum PO the victim if that's your buzz.
I find threads like this amusing, because then you read other threads about how hard it is to be a pirate with everyone fitting stabs, and how PvP doesn't exist anymore.
Cause = effect.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.05.01 03:07:00 -
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Stop trying to ask for ransom anymore unless I'm in empire (0.4-0.1) and know the guy is new. Just no time for ransom asking in 0.0 anymore because everyone flies with people holding there hands. Thus is why I stick to my 4500+ inties and tag weak ships in 0.0 than just spending 100's of millions of isks on my setups anymore. Just more fun now that ransom is so hard due to the growth of EVE.
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Rockbox
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Posted - 2006.05.01 03:15:00 -
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Veto ransoms :) ------------------------------------------
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Golden Helmet
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Posted - 2006.05.01 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rockbox Veto ransoms :)
sometimes
Don't worry, your sig is safe...wait...oops. --Jorauk |

Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.05.01 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Quote: Don't get why you wouldn't ransom a Hulk though.
Because the hulk pilot loses more in emotion and spirit by being denied a ransom and getting podding than losing replacable ISK currency.

Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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Na'Thuul
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Posted - 2006.05.01 15:40:00 -
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I couldn't care less about your ISK or even loot, I just want your corpse.
*Na'Thuul feeds a slave to her Slaver Hound, "Sparky" ---
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Jack Urban
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Posted - 2006.05.01 17:07:00 -
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It is quite sad to see the low sectors turn into "I do what the **** I want cause I am z powerfull pirate!" Unless, of course, its a protected alliance territory. I wonder why pirates don't go there? Afraid to be upset due to ship loss? [email protected] |

Rina Shanu
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Posted - 2006.05.01 17:17:00 -
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All I can say, is that we ransom. yes we do. ask for cash, wait a litle, maybe negociate, than leave the guy go/he pays, or blow him up if he does not pay.
I allways hope for the ransom despite the most isk I made was from blowing someone up. less sec loss (not that it matters much after a while).
cheers. *** TRats - We ransom!!! *** |

Zions Child
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Posted - 2006.05.01 17:48:00 -
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Ok, the reason why most people who are relativly new dont pay ransoms, is because they dont have good equipment, so why pay for the ship, when the insurance covers it. I mean, rnasoming is just stupid. Podding is good, but make sure you occasionly ask for ransom, bc the player might not have updated or gotten a new clone. Then they are usually willing to pay up evrything they have, if they are mains.
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Siigari Kitawa
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Posted - 2006.05.01 17:50:00 -
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If I take a sec hit for scrambling you, you better believe I am going to kill you.
lol
and then ransom your pod. for lots of isk. _________ www.siigarikitawa.com
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.05.01 18:01:00 -
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I ransom whenever possible, and about 1/2 the people i get pay up in one form or another. However, don't want more than 10 seconds, because they will either whine to the point of blocking them or they are getting friends.
Ransoming people under 14 days is lame too 
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.05.01 18:44:00 -
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Quote: I wonder why pirates don't go there? Afraid to be upset due to ship loss?
Because we have one of the least common attributes in EVE? A sense of survivability in a situation where we know we may not make it out alive.
If you honestly expect pirates to walk right into the middle of alliance protected space and wage war, then you lack the understanding of hit-run tactics and are so uninformed of how EVE works that I demand you create a second account and pod yourself repeatedly. --------------
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K'reemy G'udness
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Posted - 2006.05.01 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: K''reemy G''udness on 01/05/2006 20:00:24 I'm not as experienced as many here, so you can take what I say with a grain of salt.
I get too excited to ransom. My heart is pounding, I got my twitch on, I'm watching local, hitting scan in 360 mode to see if anyone is gonna show up. I'm also watching the vic's armor/hull, my armor/hull and I forget to ransom.
It's like sticking up a liquor store. The vic can holler, he might have a shotgun, or maybe he has a silent alarm he's already pressed. Hell, maybe he knows kung-fu! It's easier just to murder him and see what's in your pocketses, filthy hobbitses. And get the tape from the vcr in the managers office.
I'd really like to try the "Pod-Or-Post" thing! Maybe this weekend I'll try that.
Watch for a "K'reemy G'udness is a master pimp" thread coming soon. 
EDIT: grammar escapes me. ---
Stolen from Malka: ♥ |

Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.05.01 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Quote: I wonder why pirates don't go there? Afraid to be upset due to ship loss?
Because we have one of the least common attributes in EVE? A sense of survivability in a situation where we know we may not make it out alive.
If you honestly expect pirates to walk right into the middle of alliance protected space and wage war, then you lack the understanding of hit-run tactics and are so uninformed of how EVE works that I demand you create a second account and pod yourself repeatedly.
Hit the nail on the head. -----
Lead Games Programmer @ Quasit-Rushyo Games | Me! |

Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.01 20:14:00 -
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If they have nice mugshot, I might ransom. Else, POPPED.  ---------------- May 1st - We love Khatred day. RecruitMe@NOINT! |

lofty29
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Posted - 2006.05.01 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 01/05/2006 20:15:58
If they have nice mugshots, I might ransom. Else, POP. 
Wouldnt ransom yourself then jenny? Aww  ---------------------------
Originally by: Oveur I see boobies! \o/
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Katrina Coreli
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Posted - 2006.05.01 20:22:00 -
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Well i just had my first enjoyable Pirating (or Pirated) experience. Rating in low sec in my shiney new Vexor (Yes im new, go figure) and i get attacked and Scrambled by one "Little Penelope" of NUBS. I ve had several bad experiences with them so i fought back with a vague feeling of doom in my heart. However when i was into structure i had coms being opened up with me. I called off my drones and stopped firing to see what she had to say. Yes i was finnaly being ransomed, i didnt have the 1mil she wanted but i gave her the 600 k i had and she seamed satisfied. Despite the fact that i had lost all the iskes i had spent half an hour or so making i was smiling. I had had my first civilised encounter with a pirate, and as an added bonus id got her into armor.
A tip of the hat to you Penelope, you have made my day
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Sakura Nihil
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Posted - 2006.05.01 20:58:00 -
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Tharsis honors all ransoms we make, just in case you run across us
we also accept ejected ships 
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K'reemy G'udness
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Posted - 2006.05.01 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Katrina Coreli Well i just had my first enjoyable Pirating (or Pirated) experience. Rating in low sec in my shiney new Vexor (Yes im new, go figure) and i get attacked and Scrambled by one "Little Penelope" of NUBS. I ve had several bad experiences with them so i fought back with a vague feeling of doom in my heart. However when i was into structure i had coms being opened up with me. I called off my drones and stopped firing to see what she had to say. Yes i was finnaly being ransomed, i didnt have the 1mil she wanted but i gave her the 600 k i had and she seamed satisfied. Despite the fact that i had lost all the iskes i had spent half an hour or so making i was smiling. I had had my first civilised encounter with a pirate, and as an added bonus id got her into armor.
A tip of the hat to you Penelope, you have made my day
Shhh! No one tell him about armor tanking, it'll just embarass him.  ---
Stolen from Malka: ♥ |

Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.05.01 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Shhh! No one tell him about armor tanking, it'll just embarass him. 
It's ~possible~ he was shield tanking XD -----
Lead Games Programmer @ Quasit-Rushyo Games | Me! |

Ayame Mishima
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Posted - 2006.05.01 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ayame Mishima on 01/05/2006 23:17:31 Hmm... ransoming... it can be fun when you actually find someone to ransom.
As I am realatively new to the game I need to be very careful about picking my targets. As soon as it's a good cruiser or worse I'm usually close to getting destroyed myself, so sometimes the only chance to survive is to simply kill him first, because they won't stop shooting. Some even don't stop shooting when they're down to 0 armor and I'm not. Dunno why, they must realize their ship won't hold out much longer.
For frigates... well the loot usually is worth more than the frigate itself so the question is if a ransom will help here as the pilot often doesn't really want to pay anything for a frigate that is insured for more than he bought it for.
And there are those who either try to tell you that they aren't worth a thing or the best that I've encountered so far was a lovely pilot trying to ransom me while he was sitting in his pod with my guns pointed at him. 
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Sentinel Roqeze
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Posted - 2006.05.01 23:51:00 -
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Whether or not I ransom depends on three things:
1. My mood 2. My current level of drunkeness 3. The target's age and ship
Occaisionally, and normally if I haven't played for a while, I just need a kill to warm me up. Most of the time, you'll find me sending a convo that gets declined, or I get "I only have 1.2M in my account". No problem... lie to me about your finances and I'll just sell the loot I get from your T2 fitted ship; accept the ransom, and you'll keep both your ship and it's modules.
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Zions Child
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Posted - 2006.05.02 01:39:00 -
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Ok, pod ransomming is good, but when you whine about pirates not ransomming your ship, and you continue to fire after they've sent you an invite that you've declined, then you're just being a carebear. Besides, they are pirates, they can do whatever they want. That isn't traveling in 0.5 or above, or attacking CONCORD. Just deal with it, that's what I do. I'd prefer to be ransome, but oh well, there isn't anything I can do but fight.
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Zions Child
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Posted - 2006.05.02 01:42:00 -
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Oh and my CEO was ransomed by a guy in a cruiser for 20 mil. My CEO is in a bs. And is three months old. The guy in the cara was 3-4 weeks old. He also had friends. 3 kestrels less than 2 weeks old. What idiot ransoms with a predictable outcome of death. Of course, my CEO podded all but the one who got away. But can anyone explain to me what person would do that? I mean, I though being a pirate, the point was to make money, not lose ships.  
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Ayame Mishima
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Posted - 2006.05.02 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Zions Child Oh and my CEO was ransomed by a guy in a cruiser for 20 mil. My CEO is in a bs. And is three months old. The guy in the cara was 3-4 weeks old. He also had friends. 3 kestrels less than 2 weeks old. What idiot ransoms with a predictable outcome of death. Of course, my CEO podded all but the one who got away. But can anyone explain to me what person would do that? I mean, I though being a pirate, the point was to make money, not lose ships.  
If it was just the money, I could get myself a barge and sit at some stupid asteroid. It's the thrill of combat. Using the opportunity and well... also being surprised by people doing something stupid on both sides. In the end money is a key factor in this game, yet it is not everything. :P
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.05.02 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Urban It is quite sad to see the low sectors turn into "I do what the **** I want cause I am z powerfull pirate!" Unless, of course, its a protected alliance territory. I wonder why pirates don't go there? Afraid to be upset due to ship loss?
alliance protected space is ftw
all from our happy love trip today
Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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Zions Child
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Posted - 2006.05.02 02:03:00 -
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Right but he ransommed, a bs, a raven at that. I mean, if u want combat, fight at ur own relative level. _________________________________________________________________
Enron quote: ask why, ******* Favorite musicals, Miss Saigon, Cabaret, (see a pattern?) Jesus Christ Superstar |

Sofya Spyridon
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Posted - 2006.05.02 02:08:00 -
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Somone tried to ransom me, the smart guy didnt know I was packing a cloaking device.
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Ayame Mishima
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Posted - 2006.05.02 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zions Child Right but he ransommed, a bs, a raven at that. I mean, if u want combat, fight at ur own relative level.
No one said you have to be smart if you want to shoot at people.
Anyways, we tried out a dominix once with 2 cruisers and a frig and almost succeeded. Just wanted to know if we can make it and well in the end when we esacped we all were down to structure. So maybe they just wanted to give it a try. 
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Zions Child
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Posted - 2006.05.02 02:09:00 -
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heh _________________________________________________________________
Enron quote: ask why, ******* Favorite musicals, Miss Saigon, Cabaret, (see a pattern?) Jesus Christ Superstar |
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