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Katrina Coreli
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:02:00 -
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Well i was reading topics about Pirate etiquete and Piracy guides and they all seamed to point to ransoming ships or pods as the mian point of income as well as being a "noble" pirate.
However i have been destroyed about 5 times now (Only flying a Tristan i might add, with no loot worthy of the interest from the 1-2 year old characters that ganking me) and i have never been offered to chance to barter for my ship. Even though 10 mill is a throwaway sum for most players why not accept the 30 or so k i would be willing to pay? If you are not out for money why attack me in the first place.
When i tryed to contact them i was ignored.
So i was wondering it is only a small majority of "true pirates" who use the methods of ransoming your victims ships to them or am i just fighting the wrong people?
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Cmdr Sov
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:06:00 -
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I try to...most of the time I'm ignored tho. Guess its the principle of the thing =P
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Verus Potestas
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:08:00 -
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i try.
oh i try 
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:12:00 -
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So i was wondering it is only a small majority of "true pirates" who use the methods of ransoming your victims ships
True pirates? What? Like the ones that boarded the ship and killed everyone on it or burned it down? Please, remind me of the story when Blackbeard politely invited the victim Captain onto his ship for a cup of tea and a negotiation deal.
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Verus Potestas
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
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So i was wondering it is only a small majority of "true pirates" who use the methods of ransoming your victims ships
True pirates? What? Like the ones that boarded the ship and killed everyone on it or burned it down? Please, remind me of the story when Blackbeard politely invited the victim Captain onto his ship for a cup of tea and a negotiation deal.
she's right. you don't have to ransom to be a real pirate. i choose to try because it would make me more ISK, but i have no obligation to.
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Katrina Coreli
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:22:00 -
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notice the inverted commas. I only called them "True pirates" for want of a better term. I meant in in the context of Pirating for money and glory rather than killing someone wildly inferrior to you where your only reward is a sec status drop.
I can understand destroying heavily layden haulers but whats to be gained from destroying newbies when you could easily get a few iskies from ransoming?
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:24:00 -
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Pirates will give you 100 reasons as to why they feel they must destroy your ship but basically it boils down to this:
They greatly enjoy destroying ships and pods nomatter the size, shape, player, corp or alliance (though n00bs being the target of choice).
Ransoming requires much more effort than just sitting back and letting their weapons recycle till your destroyed.
Killboards.
I make cool banners for ISK.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Katrina Coreli
notice the inverted commas. I only called them "True pirates" for want of a better term. I meant in in the context of Pirating for money and glory rather than killing someone wildly inferrior to you where your only reward is a sec status drop.
To me it isn't a matter of inferiority. It's a matter of blood and grief. Granted, NOCTS corporation has a "under 30 days, leave it be" policy, but everything else is KoS. We don't want the ISK, we don't want the modules, we don't want the ransom. We want the destruction of the ship, the corpse of the indivudual, and then the chance to instruct and teach the person on survival tactics. EVE is a very economic game, but many pirates play for many other reasons than to make ISK.
I, in specific, murder because I find the act of ruining someone's day by refusing all hope of survival in the situation very enjoyable. To become an object of fear, that is my goal. Not ISK. Not total kills. That's the beauty of EVE, you have pirates of multiple kinds and colors. Some kill the rookies, some kill the veterans, some kill everyone.
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Prestis
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Prestis on 28/04/2006 20:27:20
Game mechanics almost block ransoming.
Bit tough trying to negotiate with sentry guns pounding you for 400 damage a second. And you aren't holding anyone hostage from 150km away.
Of course you can try ransoming in low-sec belts but then whose going to pay much for a bunch of ore, Miner IIs or some newbs frigate?
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Katrina Coreli
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:26:00 -
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This was in a 0.4 belt, most of them had alrdy scrambled me. What was stopping them?
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:30:00 -
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What stops them from ransoming you? Because ransoming a 250k ISK ship for 50k simply isn't worth the effort. Much easier to nuke it, take the mods, and continue hunting. Hell, we've even engaged a 300-400m Hulk (t2 barge) and refused the ransom request. Sometimes that pretty explosion and knowing that the person inside is furious for the lack of ransom is worth going without the ISK.
Something I was taught long ago:
"Being Ransomed. It's a privelege and mercy, not a right."
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Rex Rawhead
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:30:00 -
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I dont ransom, its all about the corpse 
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Katrina Coreli
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:33:00 -
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Understood, i just assumed it would be in the pirates best interests.
However after meeting you im more worried about what is done with my corpse afterwards....
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:35:00 -
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However after meeting you im more worried about what is done with my corpse afterwards....
It will involve a jar of mustard, a Slinky, two pairs of shoes and a pitchfork.
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Phelan Lore
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:37:00 -
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Newer players in BCs are usually good to ransom. You can get 10-15m off them and they have crap fitted on their ship so no point in killing them. Cruisers it's generally not worth it, but if I'm pretty sure they're gonna drop crap I'll ransom for 4m or so.
Once in a while you find a 1-2 month old player in a battleship, but they are usually broke from buying their BS...
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
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However after meeting you im more worried about what is done with my corpse afterwards....
It will involve a jar of mustard, a Slinky, two pairs of shoes and a pitchfork.
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris
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LordMordred
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: LordMordred on 28/04/2006 20:40:41
I'm with Malka really, (That's why we are most likely in the same alliance lol)
I never ransom a ship. At times I have ransomed a pod, but very rarely. I make money off your mods (alot of it in some cases) and I love the squeesy sound when your pod pops. Plus I have a cargo can somewhere out there with a collection of corpses. If I ransomed a ship, I would always be left of the feeling of "What if there was a BPO in there for some stupid reason." And I wouldn't get the satisfaction of my blue explosion that I work so hard for.
Some pirates are nice enough to give you a chance to save your stuff and they still get their money. I am not that nice. You should have been paying attention to the billion alarms that pop up that tell you I am here, "watch out."
Of course by "I" I mean the pirates that killed you. Just using myself as an example.
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Narciss Sevar
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:45:00 -
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Fly something worth ransoming and pirates will ransom you. However murders like malkia will still **** you up.
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Vexy NiLakum
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
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However after meeting you im more worried about what is done with my corpse afterwards....
It will involve a jar of mustard, a Slinky, two pairs of shoes and a pitchfork.
Kinky... ^.^
Dear Miss Malka B., do you sell the video of such erotic acts? ^^; I am willing to buy!
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:21:00 -
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we ransom all pods and if someone requests it in local we ransom ships too
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:30:00 -
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I'm not even a pirate, so I wouldn't ransom.
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JoeT
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
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So i was wondering it is only a small majority of "true pirates" who use the methods of ransoming your victims ships
True pirates? What? Like the ones that boarded the ship and killed everyone on it or burned it down? Please, remind me of the story when Blackbeard politely invited the victim Captain onto his ship for a cup of tea and a negotiation deal.
negotiation? none of that. It is a well decided price for a ship and if you want your ship and cargo, it will be payed. Too bad I only ransom sometimes. and haulers cant be ransom. hauler wants to pay it wants to be blown up.
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.28 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
What stops them from ransoming you? Because ransoming a 250k ISK ship for 50k simply isn't worth the effort. Much easier to nuke it, take the mods, and continue hunting. Hell, we've even engaged a 300-400m Hulk (t2 barge) and refused the ransom request. Sometimes that pretty explosion and knowing that the person inside is furious for the lack of ransom is worth going without the ISK.
Something I was taught long ago:
"Being Ransomed. It's a privelege and mercy, not a right."
To you maybe, to most people 300mil or so for a few minutes work is a good deal
p.s anyone fearing you
Originally by: Tamora
its not the skills that make the eve
player... its the smack that back him up
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Victor Valka
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Posted - 2006.04.28 23:00:00 -
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I sense a lot of bitterness towards Malka, here.
Mmmm. I guess she is well on her way towards her goal, then. 
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vile56
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Posted - 2006.04.28 23:13:00 -
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no most of us are just sick
(i must be a dirty red)
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Golden Helmet
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Posted - 2006.04.28 23:27:00 -
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reasons for not ransoming frigs:
1: it's not very much money
2: you'd be surprised what some frigs drop
example for reason 2, i killed a tristan some time ago and got a cap recharger that netted me 5 mill. and a few days or so ago i popped a Merlin that dropped a missile launcher worth 1.8 mill. see why frigs don't get ransomed?
Don't worry, your sig is safe...wait...oops.  --Jorauk |
Lucia Warbler
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Posted - 2006.04.28 23:30:00 -
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Hi. I had a little experience with a pirate as well. I would have gladly paid 100k for that pirate not to shoot me, but I didn't live long enough to open a channel or to hit warp for that matter. 
*Sigh* I honestly thought paying would work before that happened. Uncivilized bastard.
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Mi Lai
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Posted - 2006.04.29 01:34:00 -
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It's also the 'kinder egg' effect: you never know what you gonna get. Ransoming reduces the surprise.
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Zecht
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Posted - 2006.04.29 03:27:00 -
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I only ransom when i'm outta money.. and i've got 120 mil right now.
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idimmu69
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Posted - 2006.04.29 03:45:00 -
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Just scream "PARLAY!!!" in local the moment you are agressed. By pirate law they must then take you to see their captain to negotiate terms.
C'mon... stop laughing... it kinda worked in pirates of the caribean :P
hehe
idi
PS: I usually try to ransom, but if there is more than one member of your corp in local, then I just go straight for the squishy sound.
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