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ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 09:44:00 -
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So I was looking to resub my second account and thought I would compare the options. Just usually get a 60 day GTC.
If i want to resub for 1 Month it costs -ú9.99, 3 Months -ú27.99 if i pay directly. If i want to buy a 2 month GTC it costs $34.99 which under current conversion is -ú21.09 which is pretty much around the same as paying direct per month
So i checked plex prices and wtf for 30 days (1 month) its -ú16.99 almost double the pay direct price for a month. WHY?
Yes plex can be used in game, but i can just as easily buy a GTC and convert to ISK at a much lower cost in real money terms.
Plex sells for about 650m, a 2 month GTC sells for about 1.3B on forums so its about the exact same cost as plex at nearly half the real money cost!
Am i completely missing something here, or are we being ripped off by CCP? Why the hell would anyone buy plex. |
Rich Uncle PennyBags
EVE Online Monopoly
158
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Posted - 2014.03.19 09:49:00 -
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PLEX include the activation price of new accounts. ($5)
Subs are cheaper so they get you on a reoccurring plan instead of a once off.
A few on many reasons. |
Julius Rigel
165
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Posted - 2014.03.19 09:51:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Am i completely missing something here, or are we being ripped off by CCP? Why the hell would anyone buy plex. You're not being ripped off. Nobody is trying to hide the fact that buying PLEX directly is a little more expensive than buying a GTC and converting it to PLEX. It's just a matter of convenience.
If you would rather save money, buy the PLEX the roundabout way through a GTC dealer. Do YOU like to undock? |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 09:52:00 -
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Rich Uncle PennyBags wrote:PLEX include the activation price of new accounts. ($5)
Subs are cheaper so they get you on a reoccurring plan instead of a once off.
A few on many reasons.
Thats completely irrelevant. I am not creating a new account. I am simply looking at the direct cost of a plex which in its simpliest terms in -ú16.99 for a 30 day plex. which is -ú7 more than just a normal 30 day renewal |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 09:53:00 -
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Julius Rigel wrote:ImYourMom wrote:Am i completely missing something here, or are we being ripped off by CCP? Why the hell would anyone buy plex. You're not being ripped off. Nobody is trying to hide the fact that buying PLEX directly is a little more expensive than buying a GTC and converting it to PLEX. It's just a matter of convenience. If you would rather save money, buy the PLEX the roundabout way through a GTC dealer.
A LITTLE more expensive? its nearly double! wheres the justification in that. and yes people are getting ripped off. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20163
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:04:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:A LITTLE more expensive? its nearly double! wheres the justification in that. and yes people are getting ripped off. It's not nearly the double for one. A per-month subscription sets you back $15; a per-month PLEX sets you back $17.5 GÇö that's GàÖ more, not twice as much.
And no, no-one is getting ripped off. You are entirely free to choose whatever payment scheme and related cost you want, including letting other people pay for you. If you do not have the faith (or funds) to pay a year at a time, you pick a less trusting and more costly option. If you intend to pay for someone else, there's no telling whether you'll do the same the next month or not, so you pay a bit more than the more stable and long-term option of a subscription. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1015
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:07:00 -
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Maybe the same reason cinema food is twice as much than buying out from the woolworths and bringing it under your coat. |
Talia Prime
Imperial Militia
5
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:08:00 -
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No, you're not getting ripped off. PLEX gives you options, it doesn't mean you have to use it to sub your account. If I get a decent amount of gaming time I can buy my game time with isk, if I don't I can sell a PLEX and get some isk. Don't see what the problem is. |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar
633
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:08:00 -
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You are free to not buy plex. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1015
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:12:00 -
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Tippia wrote:ImYourMom wrote:A LITTLE more expensive? its nearly double! wheres the justification in that. and yes people are getting ripped off. It's not nearly the double for one. A per-month subscription sets you back $15; a per-month PLEX sets you back $17.5 GÇö that's GàÖ more, not twice as much.
Ok, whats this then.
http://i.gyazo.com/18d8ffb7079c7edb693e4a4eb010ed09.png
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ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:25:00 -
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Tippia wrote:ImYourMom wrote:A LITTLE more expensive? its nearly double! wheres the justification in that. and yes people are getting ripped off. It's not nearly the double for one. A per-month subscription sets you back $15; a per-month PLEX sets you back $17.5 GÇö that's GàÖ more, not twice as much. And no, no-one is getting ripped off. You are entirely free to choose whatever payment scheme and related cost you want, including letting other people pay for you. If you do not have the faith (or funds) to pay a year at a time, you pick a less trusting and more costly option. If you intend to pay for someone else, there's no telling whether you'll do the same the next month or not, so you pay a bit more than the more stable and long-term option of a subscription.
where are you getting those prices from? I am not in the States i am in the UK
We pay -ú16.99 for a plex thats $28 ! so are you telling me now that in the states your only paying $17.50???!!! So then we are getting ripped off even more in the UK then!
So before you post thingk where i am in the world rather than your own little area please. |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:27:00 -
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Talia Prime wrote:No, you're not getting ripped off. PLEX gives you options, it doesn't mean you have to use it to sub your account. If I get a decent amount of gaming time I can buy my game time with isk, if I don't I can sell a PLEX and get some isk. Don't see what the problem is.
WHAT OPTIONS? over and above? Seriously what?
for a person that wants to buy a plex just for game time its -ú7 more than just buying it direct? WHY!!!!!?????? just tell me that for god sake.
And based on tippias post, are we being ripped off in the UK then? if you are only paying $2.50 dollars more and we are paying much much more in the UK |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6322
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:28:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Tippia wrote:ImYourMom wrote:A LITTLE more expensive? its nearly double! wheres the justification in that. and yes people are getting ripped off. It's not nearly the double for one. A per-month subscription sets you back $15; a per-month PLEX sets you back $17.5 GÇö that's GàÖ more, not twice as much. Ok, whats this then. http://i.gyazo.com/18d8ffb7079c7edb693e4a4eb010ed09.png It's a clear indication, that while the PLEX cost for Brits is normal their sub price is way below average. Therefore the obvious fair way to fix things and address the OP's issue is to raise the normal subscription cost for the brits to around 12.50 -ú/month. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10443
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:28:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Tippia wrote:ImYourMom wrote:A LITTLE more expensive? its nearly double! wheres the justification in that. and yes people are getting ripped off. It's not nearly the double for one. A per-month subscription sets you back $15; a per-month PLEX sets you back $17.5 GÇö that's GàÖ more, not twice as much. And no, no-one is getting ripped off. You are entirely free to choose whatever payment scheme and related cost you want, including letting other people pay for you. If you do not have the faith (or funds) to pay a year at a time, you pick a less trusting and more costly option. If you intend to pay for someone else, there's no telling whether you'll do the same the next month or not, so you pay a bit more than the more stable and long-term option of a subscription. where are you getting those prices from? I am not in the States i am in the UK We pay -ú16.99 for a plex thats $28 ! so are you telling me now that in the states your only paying $17.50???!!! So then we are getting ripped off even more in the UK then! So before you post thingk where i am in the world rather than your own little area please.
I dont think the USA has VAT. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Sarpy Aranori
Cosmos To Chaos
30
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:29:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Talia Prime wrote:No, you're not getting ripped off. PLEX gives you options, it doesn't mean you have to use it to sub your account. If I get a decent amount of gaming time I can buy my game time with isk, if I don't I can sell a PLEX and get some isk. Don't see what the problem is. WHAT OPTIONS? over and above? Seriously what? for a person that wants to buy a plex just for game time its -ú7 more than just buying it direct? WHY!!!!!?????? just tell me that for god sake. And based on tippias post, are we being ripped off in the UK then? if you are only paying $2.50 dollars more and we are paying much much more in the UK
Just do what I do/did
Make an account on the american amazon website, put in a random new york address. And buy plex from amazon. For an amazing price. I got two for -ú19.99 |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:31:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Tippia wrote:ImYourMom wrote:A LITTLE more expensive? its nearly double! wheres the justification in that. and yes people are getting ripped off. It's not nearly the double for one. A per-month subscription sets you back $15; a per-month PLEX sets you back $17.5 GÇö that's GàÖ more, not twice as much. Ok, whats this then. http://i.gyazo.com/18d8ffb7079c7edb693e4a4eb010ed09.png It's a clear indication, that while the PLEX cost for Brits is normal their sub price is way below average. Therefore the obvious fair way to fix things and address the OP's issue is to raise the normal subscription cost for the brits to around 12.50 -ú/month.
Errr no! because the US guys are still paying only -ú9.62 per month! which is still less after conversion.
So where is this way below average thing?
Why are we in the UK paying far far more for Plex? I didnt even know you US guys where paying such low prices! what the hell theres something seriously wrong here.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:31:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Why the hell would anyone buy plex. So don't buy the facking thing....
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20163
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:32:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:where are you getting those prices from? I am not in the States i am in the UK Then you should not be using anything priced in USD and sold in or to the US market.
Quote:So before you post thingk where i am in the world rather than your own little area please. Before you post, make a valid comparison of prices rather than mix and match to make a fallacious argument and don't presume to know where I live or that it in any way matters for your argument.
Looks like a bad choice of retailer. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Sarpy Aranori
Cosmos To Chaos
30
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:33:00 -
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GDHDGG4/ref=oh_d__o00_details_o00__i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:33:00 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:ImYourMom wrote:Why the hell would anyone buy plex. So don't buy the facking thing....
are you stupid seriously? do you have Aspergers or some kind of autism? |
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ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:35:00 -
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Sarpy Aranori wrote:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GDHDGG4/ref=oh_d__o00_details_o00__i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
thanks so now your just rubbing it in |
Sarpy Aranori
Cosmos To Chaos
30
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:36:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Sarpy Aranori wrote:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GDHDGG4/ref=oh_d__o00_details_o00__i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 thanks so now your just rubbing it in
learn to read. Just make an account on the US website and buy them off that.
Grow up and stop throwing childish "What are you, autistic" insults over the internet.
You're playing a game about virtual spaceships. |
Riyria Twinpeaks
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
976
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:36:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:(...)
for a person that wants to buy a plex just for game time its -ú7 more than just buying it direct? WHY!!!!!?????? just tell me that for god sake.
(...)
Why don't you just buy your game time directly then, instead of using PLEX? For that purpose, the direct way is clearly superior. Buying PLEX for real money still has a use case, since you can sell them ingame for Isk.
I really don't see an issue here xD |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
972
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:37:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Why are we in the UK paying far far more for...
...pretty much everything. Have you never heard the expression "rip-off Britain"? It's really nothing new getting completely screwed on prices in this part of the world. Deal with it or emigrate - those are really our only two options. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
350
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:39:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:are you stupid seriously? do you have Aspergers or some kind of autism?
What is wrong with you?
Wake up and look at how you are talking to people.
I'd have punched you IRL already for this. Did your mother fail to teach you any manners? |
Black Locust
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Mordus Angels
4
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:40:00 -
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For the exact same reason that a greasy microwaved bacon bap on a train costs about -ú6, or a Pint costing twice as much as a normal pub when at an event. People pay for convenience (in this case, RM -> ISK) and there is nothing wrong with it. CCP is giving you a choice of ways to sub your account. They are a business after all.
If you could only use plex to renew your subscription, then I think your argument would have more substance, but as it stands, it seems like you are not realizing the simple truth, that you do not have to buy plex, so why get so angry about their prices? |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:43:00 -
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Sarpy Aranori wrote:ImYourMom wrote:Sarpy Aranori wrote:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GDHDGG4/ref=oh_d__o00_details_o00__i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 thanks so now your just rubbing it in learn to read. Just make an account on the US website and buy them off that. Grow up and stop throwing childish "What are you, autistic" insults over the internet. You're playing a game about virtual spaceships.
learn to read? it was just a picture. go away |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
273
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:46:00 -
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I pay for everything I buy online in Euros.
It's usually more expensive than the US equivalent.
That's just how things are.
Stop whining.
PLEX is more than just game time, it's convertible to ISK, redeemable for Aurum, redeemable for character resculpt and multiple character training. There is also the convenience of redeeming it for game time at your leisure. It makes sense for it to be more expensive than a month of gameplay for the sheer versatility.
You're being belligerent, rude and spoiled.
I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |
Sarpy Aranori
Cosmos To Chaos
30
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:46:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Sarpy Aranori wrote:ImYourMom wrote:Sarpy Aranori wrote:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GDHDGG4/ref=oh_d__o00_details_o00__i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 thanks so now your just rubbing it in learn to read. Just make an account on the US website and buy them off that. Grow up and stop throwing childish "What are you, autistic" insults over the internet. You're playing a game about virtual spaceships. learn to read? it was just a picture. go away also this does not answer the question of why in the UK we are paying more. so get lost.
Look at my previous post.
If you don't like CCP's business model, then please, do us all a favour and quit.
The more expensive the plex, the better imo. Prefer the idea of people having to earn the ISK rather than buying it with real cash |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:46:00 -
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Black Locust wrote:For the exact same reason that a greasy microwaved bacon bap on a train costs about -ú6, or a Pint costing twice as much as a normal pub when at an event. People pay for convenience (in this case, RM -> ISK) and there is nothing wrong with it. CCP is giving you a choice of ways to sub your account. They are a business after all.
If you could only use plex to renew your subscription, then I think your argument would have more substance, but as it stands, it seems like you are not realizing the simple truth, that you do not have to buy plex, so why get so angry about their prices?
again why is it so much more for plex in the UK than in US? either answer question or dont bother. seriously dont.
Its not the same at all as a bap for god sake lol. its a virtual item. there is no convienence its the exact same process to purchase a plex than it is to purchase a 30 day renewal. no quicker no easier an certainly no more benefit.
jesus you guys simply dont get it. i didnt realise it would be so difficult. but hey its eve players what more can i expect than a bunch of apes
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ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:47:00 -
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Sarpy Aranori wrote:ImYourMom wrote:Sarpy Aranori wrote:ImYourMom wrote:Sarpy Aranori wrote:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GDHDGG4/ref=oh_d__o00_details_o00__i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 thanks so now your just rubbing it in learn to read. Just make an account on the US website and buy them off that. Grow up and stop throwing childish "What are you, autistic" insults over the internet. You're playing a game about virtual spaceships. learn to read? it was just a picture. go away also this does not answer the question of why in the UK we are paying more. so get lost. Look at my previous post. If you don't like CCP's business model, then please, do us all a favour and quit.
lol
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illirdor
Upper Class Goat
94
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:48:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Sarpy Aranori wrote:ImYourMom wrote:Sarpy Aranori wrote:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GDHDGG4/ref=oh_d__o00_details_o00__i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 thanks so now your just rubbing it in learn to read. Just make an account on the US website and buy them off that. Grow up and stop throwing childish "What are you, autistic" insults over the internet. You're playing a game about virtual spaceships. learn to read? it was just a picture. go away also this does not answer the question of why in the UK we are paying more. so get lost.
Thats not a picture you effin moron...
Soooo this is my sig....-á |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20165
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:48:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:again why is it so much more for plex in the UK than in US? either answer question or dont bother. seriously dont. Taxes. This has already been explained.
Quote:jesus you guys simply dont get it. i didnt realise it would be so difficult. Why is it we know why it is the way it is and you don't, if we don't get it? You're confusing us with you. And no, it really shouldn't be so difficult for you to understand something everyone else understands with such ease. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1015
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Looks like a bad choice of retailer.
Yes, we concluded that much.... |
Felicity Love
Margaret Thatcher's Miners
1602
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:54:00 -
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... gets moar popcorn, and INB4 the lightning bolts start raining down from Zeus' arse...
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Black Locust
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Mordus Angels
4
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:00:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Black Locust wrote:For the exact same reason that a greasy microwaved bacon bap on a train costs about -ú6, or a Pint costing twice as much as a normal pub when at an event. People pay for convenience (in this case, RM -> ISK) and there is nothing wrong with it. CCP is giving you a choice of ways to sub your account. They are a business after all.
If you could only use plex to renew your subscription, then I think your argument would have more substance, but as it stands, it seems like you are not realizing the simple truth, that you do not have to buy plex, so why get so angry about their prices? again why is it so much more for plex in the UK than in US? either answer question or dont bother. seriously dont. Its not the same at all as a bap for god sake lol. its a virtual item. there is no convienence its the exact same process to purchase a plex than it is to purchase a 30 day renewal. no quicker no easier an certainly no more benefit. jesus you guys simply dont get it. i didnt realise it would be so difficult. but hey its eve players what more can i expect than a bunch of apes
If their is no convienience to you involed, then, why are you buying plex over direct subscription? And why are you getting so mad about it?
Who cares why stuff costs more or less in another country. If it bothers you that much, move to America. Or cancel your sub, or preferably both. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20165
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:06:00 -
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Black Locust wrote:Who cares why stuff costs more or less in another country. If it bothers you that much, move to America. Or cancel your sub, or preferably both. Hey now. There's no need to wish that much ill on the poor Americans. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Othran
Route One
684
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:08:00 -
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OP is of course correct.
UK players have always got the **** end of the stick & we always will. Just be thankful we're not getting ripped off by being forced to pay monthly subs in Euros (we were for several years, meant we paid 20% more than Euro peeps and 45% more than US) and don't buy PLEX. If CCP want to **** you over (as they do) then why give them more money than you have to? |
Black Locust
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Mordus Angels
5
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:08:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Black Locust wrote:Who cares why stuff costs more or less in another country. If it bothers you that much, move to America. Or cancel your sub, or preferably both. Hey now. There's no need to wish that much ill on the poor Americans.
Sorry bud :) |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1384
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:09:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Black Locust wrote:Who cares why stuff costs more or less in another country. If it bothers you that much, move to America. Or cancel your sub, or preferably both. Hey now. There's no need to wish that much ill on the poor Americans.
One Bieber is enough, right? |
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Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
351
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:11:00 -
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This person is altogether undeserving of a response or civil treatment.
I sincerely hope she has no children. |
Johnathan Flubb
Flubb Industrial Group
4
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:12:00 -
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I'll just leave this here.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22868787 |
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