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Damien White Sonnenlegion Shadow Cartel 195	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:10:00 - [31] - Quote Bear Naskingar wrote: Dr Cedric wrote: RavenPaine wrote: The Leapord (special frigate) is one of the fastest warping ships ever designed. If you do get scanned (very unlikely) you will outrun any ships that would try and follow. The trouble is, 1 lucky Catalyst could pop you. Another choice would be a brick tanked Navy BS. You could easily be scanned, but it would take a crew of Tornado pilots to bring you down. Covert Ops ships also work. Cloak and warp from every gate. It's hard to even see which way you warped. The best idea (in my opinion) is to be "just another mission runner" that isnt worth the gank. If I remember right, you cant scan a can, so put your BPOs in there, fit for a mission and slow-boat it. If it were me, I'd fit a T1 BS or BC, go heavy on the tank and "noobish" on the weapons. Dont mind me, just another mission runner with nothing for you! Also, dont do it with this character, just in case :) Putting BPOs in a can sounds like a good idea until you realize that having a can in your hold just creates curiosity on the part of would-be gankers. No, most missionrunners use small cans for extra ammunition, cap booster charges, gate keys etc. I can gurante you, no one will ever bother giving a second thougt to this fitting, even if you have a can in there. Hell, I think most gankers wont even bother with scaning a dominix. Quote: [Dominix, Empire BPO Transport] Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I This is basicaly the essence of a newbfitting with bad skills, no real knowledge and a "better safe than sorry" attitude, you cant look more uninteresting in EVE right now. EDIT: But dont forget to put some ammunition in there as well as maybe some crappy meta 0-2 items so you look like you just come from a mission. 97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling, "DO A BARREL ROLL!"
Princess Bride Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium 628	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:30:00 - [32] - Quote Bear Naskingar wrote: Dr Cedric wrote: RavenPaine wrote: The Leapord (special frigate) is one of the fastest warping ships ever designed. If you do get scanned (very unlikely) you will outrun any ships that would try and follow. The trouble is, 1 lucky Catalyst could pop you. Another choice would be a brick tanked Navy BS. You could easily be scanned, but it would take a crew of Tornado pilots to bring you down. Covert Ops ships also work. Cloak and warp from every gate. It's hard to even see which way you warped. The best idea (in my opinion) is to be "just another mission runner" that isnt worth the gank. If I remember right, you cant scan a can, so put your BPOs in there, fit for a mission and slow-boat it. If it were me, I'd fit a T1 BS or BC, go heavy on the tank and "noobish" on the weapons. Dont mind me, just another mission runner with nothing for you! Also, dont do it with this character, just in case :) Putting BPOs in a can sounds like a good idea until you realize that having a can in your hold just creates curiosity on the part of would-be gankers. Is that what he needs to realize? And here I thought he needed to realize that anyone can see the contents of containers inside a ship's hold with a cargo scanner. Sometimes I forget just how bad the advice on forums can be. Use a cov ops ship: Frigate or nano'd transport. Or use a cov ops T3, and no, it doesn't have to be nullified as that only works against bubbles in null. If you get locked in a cov ops in high sec you were being lazy with your cloak or warp. Don't give anyone any intel about your move. Don't get lazy or stupid and you'll be fine. Anyone who tells you different or spews nonsense about unspecified hazards is speaking above their knowledge level. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Damien White Sonnenlegion Shadow Cartel 195	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:35:00 - [33] - Quote They still can? Wasnt that changed back some time ago? If not, nevermind. 97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling, "DO A BARREL ROLL!"
Elena Thiesant Sun Micro Systems 1288	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:41:00 - [34] - Quote Yes, still can, no not changed. (Orca hanger was made scanable recently, BR cargo hold was made unscanable recently) What can't be scanned through is double-wrap. Courier contract in courier contract, courier contract in container (I think) or container in courier contract (I think) But that definitely attracts gankers' attention as that's something that you pretty much have to deliberately do.
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 520	Posted - 2014.03.23 01:46:00 - [35] - Quote Volar Kang wrote: In my mind, using an interceptor would be the best, one fitted with maneuver/speed mods. You would warp before anyone could lock you and following you in anything else but an interceptor would be pointless. I dont have any experience in this area so any help would be appreciated. I am assuming tanked ships like a BS would be too slow and if someone scanned your cargo they could follow you and get some friends together to gank you. If the BPOs are visibly worth 1.0 billion ISK or less, just haul them while AFK in a Freighter. I've done so several times; never had any problems. If they're worth more than that, then yes you should indeed haul them ass-on-chair in an Interceptor. I've done so several times, increasingly just hauling all my crap at once instead of splitting up the BPOs and taking multiple trips; never had any problems.
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 520	Posted - 2014.03.23 01:48:00 - [36] - Quote Notorious Fellon wrote: I use blockade runners for said task. That's exactly why I haven't undocked any of my BRs (I think I own 2 maybe) since that change. I'm concerned that other players will assume that I'm a totally juicy and super-gankworthy target, since obviously I must have something to hide.
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 520	Posted - 2014.03.23 01:50:00 - [37] - Quote Thomas Builder wrote: If the blueprint isn't too valuable, a Gnosis works surprisingly well too. You can get almost 200k EHP against Antimatter out of it and still have a decent align time. But if the BPO is worth more than a billion, people might gank you anyway, so something stealthy will be better. You can also double-wrap the BPO to be unscannable. (Ask a freighter pilot for how to do that). Although a double-wrapped package in a shuttle will definitely be suspicious, so maybe double-wrap it, use a freighter and pretend to be just a run-of-the-mill Red Frog alt doing a regular freight run, not worth to be ganked. I don't know how double-wrapping works, but if scanners can see the volume of the wrapped package, then be sure to include some random crap along with the BPOs, such as a few dozen units of trit, or maybe add enough to get the volume to 5 or 10 m3, because if volume is 0.01 or 0.02 m3 then it'll look dangerously like 1 or 2 high-value BPOs.
Gregor Parud 316	Posted - 2014.03.23 01:52:00 - [38] - Quote Why is this thread 2 pages long? Use a Blockade Runner and cloak at every gate, fit it with Istabs and shield extenders (and those are more of a "might as well" kind of thing). Yes, you might be uncloaked sometimes, oh the humanity, but because it almost never happens it's not an issue.
MonkeyMagic Thiesant Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking 51	Posted - 2014.03.23 02:12:00 - [39] - Quote Astero. Even if you get unlucky and can't cloak because some npc is within 2km, it's got the quickest align in the game.
Alduin666 Shikkoken Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore 539	Posted - 2014.03.23 06:54:00 - [40] - Quote The leopard hands down. Due to the way the server ticks work it is literally unlockable unless you're sitting on a gate and/or slowboating around (or are undocking, long story short be sure to use undock bookmarks when transporting high collateral). If you don't have access to a leopard then an interceptor with >1.9 second align time. If not an inty then something cloaky. If you don't have access to any of these then your options are to pick a decently tanked non-blink pvp ship to mask your intentions, or fit a ship that has enough tank to require more ships (ISK wise) to gank then would be gained selling your BPO, just beware that despite what others may say putting them in a can wont help being scanned. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead. Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager

Led Zeppelin420 Midnight Plague 3	Posted - 2014.03.24 06:19:00 - [41] - Quote Noob ship with the noob setup
Cypher Decypher Flowery Twats 36	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:54:00 - [42] - Quote If using a frig hull, beware the disco BS. I'd say Astero or other covops. And to avoid smartbombing, don't jump from gate to gate; always go via an off-vector celestial.
Liese Shardani Hedion University Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2014.03.30 19:22:00 - [43] - Quote I've run them around in n00b ships before, but I prefer CovOps. If it's a fairly valuable BPO, a CovOps and right before downtime. Before I had a POS, I'd run BPOs into low because the stations had shorter lines for research. I'd check dotlan first, send an alt ahead to scout, and then hop through in a CovOps if things looked pretty clear.
Sanai Nobuseri Centuria Legatus 18	Posted - 2014.03.31 01:26:00 - [44] - Quote I prefer a Covert Hauler, Cloak and Warp, if your flying actively and not autopiloting its essentially risk free. Outside of that Blocade runners are nice and can fit a monster tank and have a warp core str of +2 meaning a single point wont hold you down
Old Phill Republic University Minmatar Republic 56	Posted - 2014.03.31 05:21:00 - [45] - Quote cloaky t3 fit for tank best tank is always not being shot the tank with cloak is just incase you do which you shouldnt
Caldari 5 D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Northern Associates. 285	Posted - 2014.03.31 07:00:00 - [46] - Quote Cypher Decypher wrote: If using a frig hull, beware the disco BS. I'd say Astero or other covops. And to avoid smartbombing, don't jump from gate to gate; always go via an off-vector celestial. Yep Disco Battleships are a pain :P perfect reason not to use anything smaller than a BC on the Jita undock. Highly recommend Passive Brick Tank Domi with MJD in HS. Most would-be gankers use long point or High Alpha to get ganks. Passive Brick Tank Domi is nearly 180k EHP Omni, if long pointed, just align MJD and then warp :P Most don't try to get you on the next gate, because they just got CONCORDed on the first one :P Usual rules, don't transport Highly Valuable goods when at War. Don't transport what you can't afford to loose. Always create Off Grid instant undock Bookmarks when you can. As already mentioned in the thread, the additional random loot in cargo is good for putting off the random cargo scanner, they might not notice the couple of cans.
Baneken Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light 180	Posted - 2014.03.31 07:18:00 - [47] - Quote [Orca, New Setup 1] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Large Core Defense Field Extender II Large Core Defense Field Extender II Large Core Defense Field Extender II Not that I was ever any good with EFT warrioring but that's near 294k EHP.
Qen Tye Ministry of War Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:24:00 - [48] - Quote ok.. topic is Best Ship for Transporting BPO thru High sec Having 15m skill points only, I have done this in a frig or cruiser (even before learning the insta warp trick) without even being as much as scanned. I understand the need for hide'n'run in lower sec and null, but if through high sec and with 20m minus skill points, not many options there. Mission runner frigates I have used are Executioner or Punisher Mission runner cruiser: Omen Never had any problems, even with Auto piloting on (yes I did not know better) Two possibilities exists: Either we are alone in the universe-áor we are not. Both are equally terrifying. - Arthur C. Clarke
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1901	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:04:00 - [49] - Quote having run cargo through all regions of space, i have yet to lose a blockade runner. in hisec, potential gankers would have to be really REALLY bored to try their luck on you and even then it's relatively easy to get to 13k+ EHP, which means they will have to sac two tornadoes instead of one. not to mention 4-5 second align times and the covops cloak. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF
Mike Whiite Space Mutts The Harlequin's 348	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:07:00 - [50] - Quote if you get caught in a Blockede runner in high or low sec, for that matter, you're doing something wrong. but if you want to be sure use a Covert ops T3, it's abit overkill though.

Hal Safon Morior Invictus. 2	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:51:00 - [51] - Quote Navy Augoror or brick tanked t3 would be my choice. Virtually impossible to suicide gank with anything reasonable. Navy Aug can pull 175k ehp with nearly 50k raw armor. If you are transporting something especially valuable (t2 BPO?) covert ops brick tanked proteus with slaves pulls over 500k ehp. I would seriously avoid transporting anything of significant value in a frigate or even blockade runner.
Perkin Warbeck Black Watch Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance 172	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:00:00 - [52] - Quote Iudicium Vastus wrote: Gotta love how in a sci-fi universe, Blueprints can't be saved as data and transmitted as a file anywhere using the TFL communication technologies. No, we gotta haul around literal blueprints in what I would guess be rolled in a poster tube and thrown in the cargo. And for some reason you can't make a copy of a copy of a blueprint. We have warp drives but no Xerox machines. Le sigh.... OP - Blockade Runner or cloaky T3. Either is fine so long as you fit a couple of stabs.
Ione Hunt Storm Solutions 9	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:07:00 - [53] - Quote Dr Cedric wrote: RavenPaine wrote: The Leapord (special frigate) is one of the fastest warping ships ever designed. If you do get scanned (very unlikely) you will outrun any ships that would try and follow. The trouble is, 1 lucky Catalyst could pop you. Another choice would be a brick tanked Navy BS. You could easily be scanned, but it would take a crew of Tornado pilots to bring you down. Covert Ops ships also work. Cloak and warp from every gate. It's hard to even see which way you warped. The best idea (in my opinion) is to be "just another mission runner" that isnt worth the gank. If I remember right, you cant scan a can, so put your BPOs in there, fit for a mission and slow-boat it. If it were me, I'd fit a T1 BS or BC, go heavy on the tank and "noobish" on the weapons. Dont mind me, just another mission runner with nothing for you! Also, dont do it with this character, just in case :) This. Noob char in a heavy missile raven with armor reppers will do the trick.
Mu Reznor Starpaws Intergalactic Cat Herding Collective 0	Posted - 2014.04.06 14:50:00 - [54] - Quote I use this fitting with an alt to transport my goods. I've used it hundreds of times, transported billions worth of cargo and never lost it. It is unscannable and unstoppable unless there's bubbles involved. I sail through large gate camps easily. I've never had to use the ECM, it's there for emergencies. [Viator] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Synthetic Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers I Synthetic Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers I ECM Burst II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 10MN Microwarpdrive II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II Credit to Ariad here: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/18864-The-CORRECT-way-to-fit-a-Viator-Updated.html#export
Bertrand Butler Cras es Noster 288	Posted - 2014.04.06 15:00:00 - [55] - Quote Here is what I've been using with my alt for HS courier jobs. [Raptor, Sabot] Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I Damage Control II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Improved Cloaking Device II [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II With my implants (genos+EE-603) and skills, it gets into warp in two ticks (1.97s align), has a 12.5au/s warp speed and also sports a 11k EHP tank against smartbomb/tornado/warp to 0 randomness. When I want to go to LS, I just put a MWD (2.95s align) in place of an extender for the MWD+warp trick. For under 40mil, its a bargain..C:
NovaCat13 Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:54:00 - [56] - Quote Mu Reznor wrote: I use this fitting with an alt to transport my goods. I've used it hundreds of times, transported billions worth of cargo and never lost it. It is unscannable and unstoppable unless there's bubbles involved. I sail through large gate camps easily. I've never had to use the ECM, it's there for emergencies. [Viator] Domination Nanofiber Structure Local Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers I Local Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers I ECM Burst II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 10MN Microwarpdrive II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II Credit to Ariad here: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/18864-The-CORRECT-way-to-fit-a-Viator-Updated.html#export I feel I have a slightly improved version of that with this: Quote: [Viator, Blockade] Inertia Stabilizers II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II 10MN Microwarpdrive II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II With the warp acceleration change you only lose 0.3s align (go fancy istab if you want, same align) to gain 1.9AU/s (7.5 -> 9.4 AU/s), which is faster than an Interceptor's base warp speed. Or drop a nano for another istab and get down to 3.5s align (now only 0.2s slower align than your fit).
Perkin Warbeck Black Watch Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance 173	Posted - 2014.04.06 22:10:00 - [57] - Quote For the love of god don't fit ECM modules to blockade runners. They can get you concorded in high sec and they incur aggression. If you need to crash back to the gate you will be stuffed.
Kendra Coldera Ripoff Industries 15	Posted - 2014.04.07 10:04:00 - [58] - Quote Since we are talking about the best Blueprint Mover here and I could not be arsed to read all damn 3 pages of this thread I'll post the fit. When having to haul valuables with small size this is the choice. Costs 485mil, has Freighter EHP, aligns like a frigate, got +2 WCS in case someone actually gets a lucky scram and neuts in case that person is double scram fit. Note: it is a highsec fit so no interdiction nullification. Tengu, Blueprint Mover] Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I Warp Core Stabilizer II Warp Core Stabilizer II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Pithum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier Gistum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier Gistum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Expanded Probe Launcher II, Combat Scanner Probe I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor
Qen Tye Ministry of War Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2014.04.08 08:39:00 - [59] - Quote Led Zeppelin420 wrote: Noob ship with the noob setup Tend to agree on this one. Seems overkill and totally screaming: Hey guys!! Over here! Oooover hereeee! I got 10b+ worth cargo! All yours after podding me!' Like transferring money in armored cars with armed guards. Screams to criminals, come get it! Like I mentioned earlier, been hauling I do not know how much gear through hisec in a Bestower worth 3b+ throughout the time, hell even with autopilot on, without as much as being looked at. Only time I got creamed was in .4 system, cause I was not paying attention and realized I entered said low sec. My bad. just my 2 cents Two possibilities exists: Either we are alone in the universe-áor we are not. Both are equally terrifying. - Arthur C. Clarke


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