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Commodore Barclay	Posted - 2006.05.02 02:28:00 - [1] Yes... This is an alt posting. I was too embarassed to admit w my main that I have no conception of who/what the Jove are. Are they an alien entity? Humanoids? PLanetary devourers? Maybe someone could post me a link to their history or faq, maybe you could just give me a brief summary below? Thanks alot for the info, Mr X
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2006.05.02 02:31:00 - [2] Jove Remind me about The Maze. I'm Danton Marcellus and I approve of this message.
Hunters Presence	Posted - 2006.05.02 02:32:00 - [3] "The Jove Empire is isolated from the rest of the world to all but a selected few. The Jovians are a mystery to the other races, fueled not only by their elusiveness, but also their highly advanced technology, eons ahead of the other races. The Jovians have been civilized longer than any other race in the world of EVE and have gone through several golden ages, now long-since shrouded in the past. The current Jovian Empire is only a pale shadow of its former self, mainly because of the Jovian Disease - a psychological disorder that is always fatal." ----- Lead Games Programmer @ Quasit-Rushyo Games \| Me!
Frank Dashwood	Posted - 2006.05.02 02:34:00 - [4] Edited by: Frank Dashwood on 02/05/2006 02:35:23 jove = devs. Ingame rp terms, joves are humans that are more advanced than the 4 empire races, i suggest you read the chronicles and short stories under the backstory section of this very website There has been suggestion over the years that eventually us plebs may get to be jove, i wouldnt bet on it being within the next year or 2 EDIT - good summary above my post _________________________________________________ I dont believe 88.23% of the stuff i read on these forums, especially my own posts. (Except this one :P)
Commodore Barclay	Posted - 2006.05.03 19:25:00 - [5] Thanks again for the summaries. Good stuff.
SengH	Posted - 2006.05.03 19:27:00 - [6] Their the guys who manage the servers too.... dont **** them off if you dont want your system stuck on the same node as jita/ours/rens.
St Dragon	Posted - 2006.05.03 19:45:00 - [7] I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. ----------------------------------------------- "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
235ppo01	Posted - 2006.05.03 20:21:00 - [8] Originally by: St Dragon I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. Hmm the joves comming out of the closet...
SengH	Posted - 2006.05.03 20:23:00 - [9] Originally by: St Dragon I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. Sorry but this calls for a ORLY?
Hunters Presence	Posted - 2006.05.03 20:29:00 - [10] Originally by: SengH Originally by: St Dragon I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. Sorry but this calls for a ORLY? Anything that the devs say is never definate, they don't talk in definates. Don't mince their words. ----- Lead Games Programmer @ Quasit-Rushyo Games \| Me!

kieron	Posted - 2006.05.03 21:00:00 - [11] Originally by: St Dragon I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. I have stated on a number of occassions that we are planning on a Jovian expansion, but the only time frame that I remember is there are at least 2 updates (Kali, planetary flight/graphics engine revamp) slated for deployment before a Jovian expansion is discussed. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online

Himani Yeshua	Posted - 2006.05.03 21:05:00 - [12] Originally by: kieron Originally by: St Dragon I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. I have stated on a number of occassions that we are planning on a Jovian expansion, but the only time frame that I remember is there are at least 2 updates (Kali, planetary flight/graphics engine revamp) slated for deployment before a Jovian expansion is discussed. Planetary flight for real? I thought that was only a DREAM!
Lord Slater	Posted - 2006.05.03 21:07:00 - [13] Originally by: Himani Yeshua Originally by: kieron Originally by: St Dragon I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. I have stated on a number of occassions that we are planning on a Jovian expansion, but the only time frame that I remember is there are at least 2 updates (Kali, planetary flight/graphics engine revamp) slated for deployment before a Jovian expansion is discussed. Planetary flight for real? I thought that was only a DREAM! Planetry flight has been rumoured for ages looking foward to it too. I just ask that joves are not rushed becaus i plan to change one of my accounts to jove for the coolness factor. YARRR HAHAHA im the happy pirate YARRRR
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.05.03 21:25:00 - [14] Originally by: Lord Slater Originally by: Himani Yeshua Originally by: kieron Originally by: St Dragon I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. I have stated on a number of occassions that we are planning on a Jovian expansion, but the only time frame that I remember is there are at least 2 updates (Kali, planetary flight/graphics engine revamp) slated for deployment before a Jovian expansion is discussed. Planetary flight for real? I thought that was only a DREAM! Planetry flight has been rumoured for ages looking foward to it too. I just ask that joves are not rushed becaus i plan to change one of my accounts to jove for the coolness factor. The original idea at the outset of Eve was that Jove characters would be given or earned not simply chosen by the users. It was stated that players with outstanding achievements of some unknown kind and certain accomiplishments in terms of reputation would get the chance to 'turn Jove'. Of course, it's not that likely that it will be that way, since I can smell the cries of dev favouritism and gm sploith4xc0rruption from miles away at the mere thought of such a system. However, I'd doubt that you can mission or simply decide your way into a Jove char when the time comes. Power to the players !
Idara	Posted - 2006.05.03 21:35:00 - [15] Posted this in another Jove thread, but why not here? Make it so that anyone who still has a piece of the Jove Ambassodor (Banya), can implant Jovian DNA into thier clones and over time, eventually the Jovian DNA asserts itself in extra stats or abilities and then eventually completely turns the player into a Jove. Make it one way, as soon as you insert the DNA sequence the process starts, and the only way to stop the change before it's completely finished (i.e. you are a Jove) you have to buy expensive "Reversion Clones" that have pieces of the Jove DNA removed, so that you can slowly turn back into a normal pod-pilot. Only the Reversion Clones only last like a month or something, you have to keep buying them and "clone jumping" into the new one after the clone expires, losing implants, to prevent the Jovian DNA from reasserting itself. Players get those old items used, ISK sinks are created from people buying bits of Jove and ISK sinks are created in the Reversion Clones that cost quite the pretty penny.
Spartan239	Posted - 2006.05.03 21:40:00 - [16] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Lord Slater Originally by: Himani Yeshua Originally by: kieron Originally by: St Dragon I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. I have stated on a number of occassions that we are planning on a Jovian expansion, but the only time frame that I remember is there are at least 2 updates (Kali, planetary flight/graphics engine revamp) slated for deployment before a Jovian expansion is discussed. Planetary flight for real? I thought that was only a DREAM! Planetry flight has been rumoured for ages looking foward to it too. I just ask that joves are not rushed becaus i plan to change one of my accounts to jove for the coolness factor. The original idea at the outset of Eve was that Jove characters would be given or earned not simply chosen by the users. It was stated that players with outstanding achievements of some unknown kind and certain accomiplishments in terms of reputation would get the chance to 'turn Jove'. Of course, it's not that likely that it will be that way, since I can smell the cries of dev favouritism and gm sploith4xc0rruption from miles away at the mere thought of such a system. However, I'd doubt that you can mission or simply decide your way into a Jove char when the time comes. At the la fanfest didnt Oveur state that Jove as a race wouldnt come out because "we dont want eve to be like swg when they brought out jedi, eve as a who can force choke who fist game wouldu suck" or soemthign to that effect Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
Wild Rho	Posted - 2006.05.03 21:44:00 - [17] Letting players become jove is a bad idea tbh. The jove would need to be nerfed if players can choose to be jove so everyone doesn't simply pick "the uber race" then they will have lost alot of mystery and simply won't fit in with how people see the joves. If they are as powerful as the chronicles etc suggest then all but a few hardcore players would become jove. All in all I can see it being messy making such a race available to players in any real form and it would better keep their mystery if they remained a "dev only" race. WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your ass will be laminated. - Jennie Marlboro
Exavier Macbeth	Posted - 2006.05.03 22:30:00 - [18] If I remember right... 3 years is too long my brain hurts... Weren't the Joves the ones that got blamed for all the error messages and glitches when the game was first release :P
Lord Slater	Posted - 2006.05.03 23:01:00 - [19] Originally by: Exavier Macbeth If I remember right... 3 years is too long my brain hurts... Weren't the Joves the ones that got blamed for all the error messages and glitches when the game was first release :P Passes out the tin foil hats. YARRR HAHAHA im the happy pirate YARRRR
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.05.03 23:06:00 - [20] yeah jove a long way off yet that said SISI is up and bug testing underway. So if u hae spare time jump on and give emsome helpies
Mechaid	Posted - 2006.05.04 00:34:00 - [21] i've always figured it'd be best to have it so an experienced player can "become jove" by doing something spectacular in the game(if players had the option to start out as jove there would be no reason to play as any of the other races), the benefit would probably be increased stats and acess to new jove class ships (aka. Tech 3)
Ankenor Tackses	Posted - 2006.05.04 00:49:00 - [22] I personally can't see the joves as being a playable race. I like it how it is with the devs and that sort being the only one with access to jove characters, it really plays to the theme of them being a super powerful, but dying, race. It is really in flavor and fits the story perfectly. I played SWG for 2 years, and that whole jedi thing was FUBAR, I do NOT want to see something like that happen to eve. However, access to their technology, or earning access to their space would be cool. Run missions for them and such. ------------------------- I be a pirate in real life... thats why I like to role play a pirate hunter in game.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.05.04 00:58:00 - [23] Edited by: Maya Rkell on 04/05/2006 01:05:16 You just know the Jove / Eh...Eku...Ehudi...ah heck, Dark Jove war is brewing away somewhere. (Either that or Rogue Drones are reaching for the Singularity) Bear in mind that all that is known about the Jove is what the Jove tell. "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
xeom	Posted - 2006.05.04 01:11:00 - [24] Originally by: Wild Rho Letting players become jove is a bad idea tbh. The jove would need to be nerfed if players can choose to be jove so everyone doesn't simply pick "the uber race" then they will have lost alot of mystery and simply won't fit in with how people see the joves. If they are as powerful as the chronicles etc suggest then all but a few hardcore players would become jove. All in all I can see it being messy making such a race available to players in any real form and it would better keep their mystery if they remained a "dev only" race. Agreed rho,If a jovian x-pac ever does come out it should only be space,new missions,story.Unless jovian ships got nerfed and balanced it just wouldn't be fair. www.eve-files.com/media/signatures/xeomjugga.jpg[/IMG] CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Slink Grinsdikild	Posted - 2006.05.04 01:18:00 - [25] Jove is a big bloke with a beard who smites people for a living. Think Brian Blessed with superpowers.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2006.05.04 01:22:00 - [26] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Lord Slater Originally by: Himani Yeshua Originally by: kieron Originally by: St Dragon I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. I have stated on a number of occassions that we are planning on a Jovian expansion, but the only time frame that I remember is there are at least 2 updates (Kali, planetary flight/graphics engine revamp) slated for deployment before a Jovian expansion is discussed. Planetary flight for real? I thought that was only a DREAM! Planetry flight has been rumoured for ages looking foward to it too. I just ask that joves are not rushed becaus i plan to change one of my accounts to jove for the coolness factor. The original idea at the outset of Eve was that Jove characters would be given or earned not simply chosen by the users. It was stated that players with outstanding achievements of some unknown kind and certain accomiplishments in terms of reputation would get the chance to 'turn Jove'. Of course, it's not that likely that it will be that way, since I can smell the cries of dev favouritism and gm sploith4xc0rruption from miles away at the mere thought of such a system. However, I'd doubt that you can mission or simply decide your way into a Jove char when the time comes. I'm all in favor of characters having had an impact on the game being favored, if that means having an impact by adding to the immersion of the game, meaning roleplayers. The game don't need a jove fleet with the motto 'nice region, we'll take it', however many alliances they've laid waste to. Remind me about The Maze. I'm Danton Marcellus and I approve of this message.
Lord Artemis	Posted - 2006.05.04 01:24:00 - [27] Who/What are the Jove? They are a very mysterious and powerful race, capable of destroying the universe. A race whose mystery is exceeded only by their power. ___________________________ Aegis Militia Diplomatic Relations Officer C.E.O. of SHOD
Kadrush	Posted - 2006.05.04 01:25:00 - [28] I WANT TO FLY A JOVE TITAN
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.05.04 01:28:00 - [29] Originally by: kieron Originally by: St Dragon I read that joves are comming out 2007 Q4 from a devs mouth too. I have stated on a number of occassions that we are planning on a Jovian expansion, but the only time frame that I remember is there are at least 2 updates (Kali, planetary flight/graphics engine revamp) slated for deployment before a Jovian expansion is discussed. FFS please don't make jove usable in any way. The only way Jove should be in as a playable race is if they suffer realdeath after about a year, have 30s for stats, and start with jovian frig, and jovian frig would be required to use ANY jove-mod, and the skillbook would not be obtainable in any way... Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Telemicus Thrace	Posted - 2006.05.04 06:12:00 - [30] I wouldn't be suprised if many moons from now the Jove opened their space for limited trade (i.e. no advanced tech for you un-modified monkey bloke) with the other factions. Maybe even to bring a temporary peace to the galaxy after the Faction Warfare thing has run for a while. Then after many story arcs and patches when Tech 5 is about to be released and we are all running round in Tier 5 Tech 4 BSs maybe.... just maybe the Jove can become playable without unbalancing the game. Perhaps they will find a cure from the Jovian disease by gene melding with other races and nobody but the Devs will ever be "true Jove". Possibly we will discover that the Matari appear to have arrived in the galaxy by such different means because they are in fact a millenia old experiment created by the Jove in an attempt to stave off their own genetic degredation brought on by playing with their double heli too much. Or maybe they engineered the Caldari rebellion to mould them into a merchantile / warrior race that would make useful mercenaries for a time when the Dark Jove receal themselves. or.. or.... dammit.... nose bleed. >> RECRUITING <<
Jon Engel	Posted - 2006.05.04 06:42:00 - [31] I hereby proclaim that from now on. When you have to use the crapper. Instead of saying: I have to take a dump. You would say I have to take a massive Jove.
NereSky	Posted - 2006.05.04 07:08:00 - [32] Personnally the prospect of opening Jove charactors to the populace is a bad idea , I like the mysterious Jove so why not keep them mysterious. ie 'The 'Jove' can open up the border systems because they are shrinking in size and under a 'Banner' of 'trade' to hide the real reason they can shrink back, Where they shrink back to remains out of bounds on a kill on sight basis or u need a +10 corp standing with Jove to enter. That way as only a few systems are opened it will offer a chance for a major storyline and only a steady increasing load on the nodes for that area/Area's. Jove should always be a Enigma also when the borders are open u can either get a mix of all the diff factional NPC rats as they battle it out for the criminal control OR have a new type of factional NPC types, As Jove is old and ancient cant they have thier own type of enemy or even a factional split of Jove which is against the Jove choice of opening thier space to the lower or younger races. Either way the storylines which can be gleaned from this could shake up the Eve 'verse as major alliances battle it out to control the Jove border Regions which should have new types of Asteroid and moon mineral, Then as the Jove Mods/ships start to avail' the need for the new minerals become apparent.
Chai N'Dorr	Posted - 2006.05.04 08:39:00 - [33] thinks back to a certain incident concerning a Jovian Basic Miner Joves should stay a mystery, ie: CCP stuff'n'events... but it'd be nice to see one now and then. Haven't even seen one aside from here on the forum. The way they are portrayed is that they are so much more powerful than us mainstream races, that it'll lose a lot of its background story 'power' should they ever be released to players. _ Short Story: Planetside
Alessandra Grey	Posted - 2006.05.04 08:56:00 - [34] I think it would be possible to open the Jove as a playable race, but with some stipulations: (keep in mind these are just suggested examples) -Due to the backstory of the race being populous limited, create jove-specific accounts that are more costly than regular accounts, and limit the number playable at one time (a la the "3000 trial accounts online at once" rule) -keep the number of jove ships extremely limited and only pilotable by jove pilots or those with EXTREMELY high skills from other races. -since the jove have the disease, give the characters a finite lifespan. they can still clone, but it becomes extremely difficult, if not impossible to train high level skills due to the time requirements of the training vs the lifespan of the clone. -tying in with the last one, make the clones more expensive. So with these types of things in place, you have followed the backstory, as well as put a balancing factor on the player base in that the technology is more advanced, but somewhat limited in scope, and the players cannot train to be uber-skilled. Just my two cents. _______________________ ...Greetings, Starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Kodan Armada...
NereSky	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:24:00 - [35] hmmmm i can see the attraction of playing a Jove charactor but tbh they are after all Alien and who apart from the most ardent role player successfully think Alien. Jove should stay NPC u cant get a human playing and thinking like a Alien IMHO The storylines will be more creative and basically more fun with Jove as the mysterious Alien NPC which may or may not have some devious Alienesque scheme.
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:31:00 - [36] Jove aren't alien. They're humans with hordes of implants and cybernetic grafts riddling both their mind and thier bodies. And their way of thinking is about as alien as French are compared to Americans or Japanese to Zulu (just to take two random examples). It's all culture (oh, and then there's the thing about Joves not having a sexual drive, but...) New sig coming soonÖ Drone musing (MC-boards)
NereSky	Posted - 2006.05.04 11:10:00 - [37] Originally by: Ithildin Jove aren't alien. They're humans with hordes of implants and cybernetic grafts riddling both their mind and thier bodies. And their way of thinking is about as alien as French are compared to Americans or Japanese to Zulu (just to take two random examples). It's all culture (oh, and then there's the thing about Joves not having a sexual drive, but...) LMAO i always thought they were Alien lol shows how much i pay attention , still think the Jovians should remain NPC though :P
Kaylon Syi	Posted - 2006.05.04 11:16:00 - [38] Joves as a player race isn't going to fly in EVE 2006 and beyond. There is absolutely no reason for them to be player enabled. There should be an incursion expansion in which, far after our faction warfare is over, the player races will embark on a massive war with the Jovians over the EVE gate in attempts to get home. This should be far, far away and possibly set in motion the Chineese and TQ clusters fighting each other as if it was a fracture in space and time. TBH... Jovians ftl. ----- If I was you... I'd run.
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.05.04 11:37:00 - [39] Originally by: NereSky Originally by: Ithildin Jove aren't alien. They're humans with hordes of implants and cybernetic grafts riddling both their mind and thier bodies. And their way of thinking is about as alien as French are compared to Americans or Japanese to Zulu (just to take two random examples). It's all culture (oh, and then there's the thing about Joves not having a sexual drive, but...) LMAO i always thought they were Alien lol shows how much i pay attention , still think the Jovians should remain NPC though :P Well, a closer explanaition is that they were more or less the people who were left with all the good stuff when EVE gate closed. Essentially, they had advanced tech, properly terraformed planets, etc and weren't reliant on the connection to earth. So when all the other "races" went back to a pre-industrialized state due to suddenly having their life lines severed with the modern world, the Jove remained aloof. They decided that the other races were fit to fend for themselves, and thus offered them no help. More recently they have taken small measures in establishing balance of powers by, for instance, aiding the Caldari enough that the Caldari weren't routed during the Gallente and Caldari wars and instead were given the option for a fighting retreat. The Jovian Disease is a disease which prevents them from procreation. If I recall correctly it has to do with romving the sexual drive in them, but it might also have to do with the whole body's reproductive system shutting down. Essentially they are a dying breed until they can find a way of curing the disease - but speeking in their favour is that they can artificially extend their life time theoretically indeffinatly (as shown during the Jove-diplomat event, even mortal injury through severe physical missplacement can be averted). New sig coming soonÖ Drone musing (MC-boards)
Crystal Kali	Posted - 2006.05.04 11:48:00 - [40] I like the crazy Jove idea where they try and find a cure for the Jove disease by nicking bits of the other race's DNA. It makes them less uber but means they don't die horribly. And here we have a way of playing them as PC characters without the hideous overpowering aspect. Maybe PC ones might be outcastes anyway who won't have access to the real game breaking toys? Putting them in for PCs as they are now would be a powergamer wet dream and nightmare for the rest of us
Lathis	Posted - 2006.05.04 13:06:00 - [41] Edited by: Lathis on 04/05/2006 13:08:19 I'd give my left arm for Jovian ships designed by HR Giger. His style fits oh so well the mood for that race.
Phasics	Posted - 2006.05.04 13:23:00 - [42] Anyone else remeber the caldari got a standing increase to Jove for collecting the most pieces of the Jove dude ?

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