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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:15:00 -
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That was the funniest, most entertaining and insightful EvE related recording I've listened to in years.
Erotica 1 has my vote for CSM.

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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:47:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Again: how much isk was scammed out of that guy? Client lost around 1b total when he failed the bonus round. So we understand correctly... Client willingly participated in demeaning acts done upon him. Client paid equivalent of approx $29 USD in ISK/assets, which divided by 2 hours equals $7.25 per half hour. A quick search for S&M dominatrices (not related to the Dominix) in my area quotes S&M services at $140 per half hour. The client owes Erotica1 for the difference IMHO. F This is a solid assessment. A 2nd bonus round is definitely in order.
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:13:00 -
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I find all of this thoroughly entertaining.
I can tell a lot of people haven't listened to the whole audio file. The end is the best part! 
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:19:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Gogela wrote:I find all of this thoroughly entertaining. I can tell a lot of people haven't listened to the whole audio file. The end is the best part!  you mean when the poor ikkle victim starts spewing racism and real life threats? i gotta admit, i lol'd at that. Well... yah exactly? Erotica 1's actions are "debateable" at best. That 'victim's' reaction was a clear EULA violation. If you really wanted to come down to brass tacks, that guy would be banned. Because of the circumstances it's being overlooked, but if you press on the rules, if you are even talking/writing about having having Erotica 1 banned, than you would absolutely have to ban the victim here. It's crystal clear to me...
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:51:00 -
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Muestereate wrote:Gogela wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Gogela wrote:I find all of this thoroughly entertaining. I can tell a lot of people haven't listened to the whole audio file. The end is the best part!  you mean when the poor ikkle victim starts spewing racism and real life threats? i gotta admit, i lol'd at that. Well... yah exactly? Erotica 1's actions are "debateable" at best. That 'victim's' reaction was a clear EULA violation. If you really wanted to come down to brass tacks, that guy would be banned. Because of the circumstances it's being overlooked, but if you press on the rules, if you are even talking/writing about having having Erotica 1 banned, than you would absolutely have to ban the victim here. It's crystal clear to me... Why do we have to play on a fair playing field all of a sudden by punishing the victim? Equality among people doesn't even exist. How can that be seen as an important value in this case? "Equality among people doesn't even exist. "
Than we are in anarchy and any discussion about rules at all is moot. If they don't apply equally there aren't any rules.
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.25 22:18:00 -
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I was just thinking about something, listening to that last part of the recording: Think about all the energy the scam victim expended towards the end... I mean, he's tired, it's been a long day, and he's been stressing about the possibility of a scam for 1.5 hours. Then he RAGES for a solid 30 minutes. Nuts. Slamming on the table, shouting, freaking out.
I bet he had a really good night's sleep. I bet he slept like a rock.
As someone with frequent insomnia, I envy that.
I hope he's not taking that for granted. 
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.25 22:35:00 -
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Electric M0nk wrote:The audio recording is horrible. I challenge anyone who finds this behavior acceptable to play the recording to your mom, or your wife, and then proudly say to that person, "I support this behavior."
CCP has provided Erotica1 with a soapbox, that soapbox needs to be removed. I leave the 'how' to CCP.
I played it to an office full of people. They just laughed. I'll send a link to my mom and get back to you on what she says... she probably won't like it and won't listen to the whole thing. Different strokes for different folks. I'll let you know what she says. "...in poor taste" is my bet.
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.25 22:55:00 -
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paritybit wrote:Just posting to say that there's a line here. It's terribly blurry, but it's there. Nobody is going to be able to clearly define it. But nobody really needs to. It makes sense to me that CCP own the game; they own all the ones and zeros that make up New Eden and story the history of every pilot to have ever flown there. If they wanted to strip the privilege of being a part of this from someone, I think they have the right.
Now I just have to figure out how to impart my opinion that the line has been crossed here and Erotica 1 and friends are on the wrong side of it. Maybe typing this is enough; it probably isn't.
EVE is amazing in the way it provides countless ways for players to punish other players -- when they don't necessarily deserve any punishment at all. But, when it comes to a way to punish players who are completely deserving but know how to protect themselves (alts that never leave a station or that leave a station only in a disposable ship with the expectation of being blown up) there is very little recourse. This one is not and can not be in the hands of the players.
Once you go from scamming a player of all in-game assets and move on to crushing his dignity you've gone too far. Somewhere between those two points is the line. Please make a stand somewhere CCP. In order to take a "stand" you would have to make a "rule." It would be a new rule, I think, in this case. Yes, the devs make these rules. The line in this case, however, is REALLY blurry. While I would argue the victim in this case was psychologically traumatized long before he ever started playing eve, let's for the sake of argument, assume that his response could be considered "normal". How do you pen such a rule? EvE is really hard. It's harsh. You are going to get angry at some point... typically starting out. Does a ganker cause psychological trauma? Does running an alliance and losing it through one means or another cause it? Could mittens be banned for the way he took out BoB, having caused such widespread discontent? Do people running virtually undetectable margin scams cause it? Contract scams? PLEX scams? Does Hulkageddon get you down? An extreme reaction by an individual does not necessitate extreme legislation. At some point you need to be a big boy and handle your s***. This is sensational purely due to the victim's reaction. Far worse things happen to people every day in EvE. I should know. I ganked a guy w/ 4 bill in his hauler a few weeks ago. His response? "Enjoy the nothing that dropped ******!' We both lost that day. My victim handles his smack. He's not a fan of mine, but he didn't let it get to him. Why would he? It's a game. Let's not lose the forest for the trees on this one, I say.
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:25:00 -
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F*** me! Look at how this thread blew up!!! That's awesome. 
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:48:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Look guys, I was going to do a "bonus round to end all bonus rounds" tonight and invite all of my forum critics in. Even if I have to pay out 5 trillion isk and never do another bonus round again, it would be totally worth it. Clearly anyone who has followed this knows how to win by now, so you can all see first hand that everything is completely legitimate if you make it to the end.
But I am sleepy now as I have been trying to get to the end of this neverending thread all day. Maybe tomorrow! Man... after listening to all of this I want to RUN a Bonus Round! I'm a smooth talking mofo... you're doing great work. I say keep it up!
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:14:00 -
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200 Pages. Wow.
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:01:00 -
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This just keeps getting funnier, and funnier, and funnier. I thought it would get old. It's still funny.

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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.27 04:31:00 -
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EvE Online isn't therapy.
/thread.
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:44:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:This thread has a life of it's own, Threadzilla!
Anyway, taking bets on CCPs response, if any, being along the lines of: "We cannot take action on events that do not happen within our services. We are neither for nor against any behaviour a person takes outside of our system, with the exceptions of agreements made with CSM candidates." ...well that's probably the right answer.
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.27 21:49:00 -
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Having read a few pages of this complicated thread, and therefor being an expert in this matter, I can summarize "The Bonus Room" thusly.
Too funny EvE neckbeards. Too funny. 
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Gogela
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Posted - 2014.03.28 06:10:00 -
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This thread has gone completely off the rails.
IB4L 
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