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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:07:00 -
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Here is Jesters latest Blog
http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/the-bonus-round.html
As you can probably tell it is to do with Erotica 1's bonus round.
It is a very damning blog.
I can only surmise that Jester has brought the subject up with CCP and was not happy with there response which thus led him to create this blog. (Many apologise if I am wrong)
I would be very interested to hear what the community at large thinks and perhaps for Erotica and friends to refute the claims being made that they actually enjoy the pain and humiliation that they cause, especially to the man in the recording linked in Jesters Blog. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
435
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:14:00 -
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The stupidity of some people... I'ts almost enough to inspire sympathy. Almost.
But yeah I agree, seize Erotica1's assets and ban the accounts, just to hear HIM rage and cry.
Hell, I'd pay money for that delicious recording. |
I Riven I
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:21:00 -
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But did he win or no?
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fudface
ACME-INC
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:22:00 -
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+1 for jester for trying but i dont think it will change anything. The crucial thing with this is the victim is a willing participant.
Personally i think its total madness to give all your stuff over to another player you dont know and trust regardless of the reason.
i only managed to listen to around 8 minutes before i was shaking my head and thinking no one is THAT blind to the obvious,
i know gamblers who cant help chasing their losses until they are totally broke. its human stupidity and greed that is being exploited here.
i mean come on, if it looks like easy money then you are the one creating the easy money.
my 1 isk worth. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
2411
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:23:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:The stupidity of some people... I'ts almost enough to inspire sympathy...
Also, Erotica1 sounds bent.
You are just the gift that keeps on giving, aren't you, my little homophobic mispeller?
*** Vote MTU For CSM ***
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
435
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:24:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:You are just the gift that keeps on giving, aren't you, my little homophobic mispeller?
I'm not homophobic in the least :)
Many of my best friends are homosexual.
By bent, I obviously mean "crooked".
And there is no such word in the English language as "mispeller". DING! |
Buck Futz
New Order Logistics
CODE.
185
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:29:00 -
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Actually, I am of the impression that Erotica 1's name should be etched on the CCP monument.
He creates the best emergent gameplay in EVE, hands down.
And profits derived from those who refuse to follow instructions are generously donated to the New Order so they can gank full-time in free Catalysts.
Its like WIN-WIN-WIN. A triple win situation should be celebrated. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
801
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:36:00 -
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IB4L.
Even though it wasn't raised as a personal attack, that's already started and the only way this thread can end up because of the huge divide in the community around the issue of scamming. No matter what you think of the person, the forum isn't the place for personal attacks as the basis of a thread.
This is exactly the type of thing that is best served up on a blog.
eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
2411
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:37:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:
By bent, I obviously mean "crooked".
No such word as crooked.
And I find the assertation that you have friends to be highly dubious.
*** Vote MTU For CSM ***
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
Muestereate
Minions LLC
202
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:38:00 -
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This kind of shaming and humiliation runs through many generations. The player is not the only victim, so was his wife. Probably his children will suffer by being taught to endure this sort of abuse and this will cause damage hat they inturn pass on to their spouses and children. There will be members that keep it inside and die a bit everyday and there will be others that act out on it and make other people die inside. What reinforces this damage are the children here taunting that tears and or feelings for abuse are not justified. Everybody that holds this position adds more pain and projects and amplifies the pain. Its pretty serious stuff. THe internalized sufferers don't make the news but the people that turn alcoholics, addicts, rapists and physical, verbal and sexual abusers do. The internalized ones develop food problems, depressions and overblown anxieties that can hinder their personal development for the rest of their lives. THe broad damage resulting from abuse is well documented. |
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Alphea Abbra
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
680
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:40:00 -
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I have no idea how this can be defended.
It's abhorrent.
Not the scamming part, but the part where someones IRL suffering becomes your purpose. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
3376
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:43:00 -
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See, when I read the title, I thought it had to do with him jumping off the deep end, and telling us all that EVE is dying because of Dungeons and Dragons.
Now to read this newest offering.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:43:00 -
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There is a point where sadism isn't a fetish anymore but a disease.
Question is: Does CCP like to be associated with this? Let's ask that question to the PR people.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
436
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:44:00 -
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Just seize the accounts and ban him.
I mean honestly, I can appreciate some "for teh lols" as much as the next guy, but if you play that recording to any reasonably sensible people in a room, or for example outloud at the next Fanfest for the combined community represented there, I think the majority will most certainly agree that this is crossing the line too far.
Here is the recording linked in the blog:
https://soundcloud.com/kalorned/erotica1bonusroom_sohkar |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:44:00 -
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I don't see how anyone with a straight face can use the words torture, victim, etc in relation to a game that you voluntarily play, where the items and actions aren't real, and you can leave at any time you want. All that tells me is the person saying this lives a life that must be privileged and free of any actual problems nearing the definition of victim or torture. I don't know about the guy in question, but if singing a song on TS or losing all my spaceship stuff ranked among the big deals in life, my life would be much better than it is now.
The appeal to the female relative is strange as well, like some kind of shaming based on sexism? I don't know. I don't tell my grandmother some of the things that go in in my bedroom which I'm pretty sure would freak her the hell out. It's not something she would understand, and probably eve she wouldn't understand.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1537
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:45:00 -
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Wonder what naive Sohkar will do when wallstreet bloodsuckers steal his retirement savings.
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Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
436
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:48:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:
By bent, I obviously mean "crooked".
No such word as crooked. And I find the assertation that you have friends to be highly dubious.
Synonyms for bent
angled
arced
arched
bowed
contorted
crooked
I have many friends :)
Would you like to be one?
Sorry, DENIED!
Sentamon wrote:Dude is freaking out over $20? Hopefully he sees a mental health professional.
If you think its the 20bucks he's freaking over, and not how he is being treated, it might be you who hopefully sees a mental health professional. |
Maxpie
MUSE Buy-n-Large
Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises
399
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:49:00 -
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If true, this crosses way over the line. CCP, this is okay with you? Really?
No good deed goes unpunished |
Buck Futz
New Order Logistics
CODE.
185
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:51:00 -
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And, now, having read the actual blog....did he just call Erotica 1 EVIL?
I'm quite convinced that Ripard is the intolerable sort that whines to the coach when he gets hazed by his team-members in the men's locker room.
Of course this is theoretical.
Because it would require Ripard actually setting foot in a men's locker room for something other than pilates or yoga.
You know, something that doesn't require stretchy see-through pants. |
Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:52:00 -
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Nothing that you haven't seen in RL. Imo, if these guy(s) take it that far into a game, then they're either inherently deranged or needs help.
One thing though, it requires "willing" cooperative victims. Just like school bullies.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1537
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:54:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Sentamon wrote:Dude is freaking out over $20? Hopefully he sees a mental health professional. If you think its the 20bucks he's freaking over, and not how he is being treated, it might be you who hopefully sees a mental health professional.
I've dealt with people like Erotica and friends my whole life, you laugh at them and walk away. Completely going apeshit like that is unnatural and extremely dangerous, yes the man needs help and hopefully gets some.
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Xander Delacroix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:55:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Just seize the accounts and ban him. I mean honestly, I can appreciate some "for teh lols" as much as the next guy, but if you play that recording to any reasonably sensible people in a room, or for example outloud at the next Fanfest for the combined community represented there, I think the majority will most certainly agree that this is crossing the line too far. Here is the recording linked in the blog: https://soundcloud.com/kalorned/erotica1bonusroom_sohkar
Much as I hate to agree with Salvos, he's absolutely 100% on the money here. This bonus room concept is absolutely reprehensible in every way that you look at it. "Emergent Gameplay" is used to justify a lot of things in this game, but this goes far beyond the pale. If CCP don't do anything about this, then they are condoning this kind of behaviour as being acceptable (and this incident, which I imagine is only one of many such diversions by Erotica1, makes the little drunken outburst by Mittens look like kindergarten mischief by comparison), then some players may well start to think about heading away to pastures new. If this gets out into the wider media, which it has every chance of doing, then we are all tarred with the same vile brush. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:56:00 -
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Buck Futz wrote:And, now, having read the actual blog....
I'm quite convinced that Ripard is the intolerable sort that whines to the coach when he gets hazed by his team-members in the men's locker room.
Of course this is theoretical.
Because it would require Ripard actually setting foot in a men's locker room for something other than pilates or yoga.
You know, something that doesn't require stretchy see-through pants.
And this is exactly this kind of replies that doesn't push the world and community towards a better place.
But hey it's easier being a douche than being nice to people...
/c
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:56:00 -
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Lets say CCP have other things to do, than watching playerbase acting like total Asshats in real and in game. 
Edit signature? What's the point? |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
2411
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:58:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:
I have many friends :)
Would you like to be one?
Sorry, DENIED!
I have no interest in being the friend of anyone, much less someone who defends the terminally stupid and demands the intelligent should be made to suffer for it.
However, Chirba has spoken, and so thats the end of it.
*** Vote MTU For CSM ***
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
436
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:03:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:I have no interest in being the friend of anyone, much less someone who defends the terminally stupid and demands the intelligent should be made to suffer for it.
However, Chirba has spoken, and so thats the end of it.
Are you implying the antagonists in this recording are "intelligent" or made to suffer?
HAH!
Just ban them. Nobody will miss them and the majority of the community will certainly agree with it. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
2411
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:04:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Just ban them. Nobody will miss them and the majority of the community will certainly agree with it.
Chirba has spoken, and so thats the end of it.
*** Vote MTU For CSM ***
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1537
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:05:00 -
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Xander Delacroix wrote:
If CCP don't do anything about this, then they are condoning this kind of behavior as being acceptable.
Look up the world slander.
If you're truly concerned you should forward this matter to law enforcement and let professionals deal with it, not smear CCP with it.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
438
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:08:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Chirba has spoken, and so thats the end of it.
Yes. And he's spoken against this kind of behavior being acceptable.
Just ban these people. Nobody will miss them. These kinds of things are not something you want the wider global gaming community nor the wider internal EVE community hearing about or thinking you are supporting.
If something is happening in or related to the game that cannot conceivably with good conscience be played over speakers or depicted graphically at a Fanfest, it goes without saying that it exceeds what is permissable in EVE. |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague
Fidelas Constans
1052
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:08:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Wonder what naive Sohkar will do when wallstreet bloodsuckers steal his retirement savings. Dude is freaking out over $20? Hopefully he sees a mental health professional. Real life is far more ruthless and mean then eve online could ever be.
This.
I came back this morning from a recruitment agency where a disabled woman was having an advisor shout at her and threaten to cut all her disability money, leaving her in tears. We were all in an open plan office so this was seen by everyone there. Due to a government policy which is quite popular and supported by many people.
Then directly after I log in here this is the first thing I read, and see the words victim used with someone losing make believe **** in a game, and huge moral outrage from all comers about it.
I don't know. Maybe this is the world now. People are concerned over virtual things more than real things. Is this the ass backwards world we live in now? Apparently it is. |
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