personally, i have a brummie accent.

Just posting to say that there's a line here. It's terribly blurry, but it's there. Nobody is going to be able to clearly define it. But nobody really needs to. It makes sense to me that CCP own the game; they own all the ones and zeros that make up New Eden and story the history of every pilot to have ever flown there. If they wanted to strip the privilege of being a part of this from someone, I think they have the right.

Now I just have to figure out how to impart my opinion that the line has been crossed here and Erotica 1 and friends are on the wrong side of it. Maybe typing this is enough; it probably isn't.

EVE is amazing in the way it provides countless ways for players to punish other players -- when they don't necessarily deserve any punishment at all. But, when it comes to a way to punish players who are completely deserving but know how to protect themselves (alts that never leave a station or that leave a station only in a disposable ship with the expectation of being blown up) there is very little recourse. This one is not and can not be in the hands of the players.

Once you go from scamming a player of all in-game assets and move on to crushing his dignity you've gone too far. Somewhere between those two points is the line. Please make a stand somewhere CCP.

Oh yeah. Advocating real life violence over **** in a video game. You are a gentleman AND a scholar.

In the area I live in (Robin Hood land) we hear such colloquialisms as 'ayup me duck' and 'nowt wrong we that'

personally, i have a brummie accent.

that's not an excuse for being racist, it just isn't. there's no excuse for that.

Salvos, you're really not helping yourself here...

Mags, Baltec, Dave, Jenn et al: Stop the broken record already! We know that the victim used some bad words and slurs when, after two hours of torment, he finally snapped (losing his composure, temper and possible a few marbles). Does that make his use of said words excusable? No. Does it make his stream of invective understandable? Yes. Let's move on shall we?

The words the victim used, or the threats, empty or otherwise, made towards E1 were made after 2 hours of systematic psychological and emotional abuse. Yes, they were bad words. We get it. Really.

Are you now trying to say that they were not trying to get this person to sing?

Bloody northerners.

i don't find it unacceptable, i'm petty indifferent to it when the situation is such that any humiliation and pain can be avoided with one click of a mouse at any time the "victim" chooses.

Did I say that?

*Looks at quote*

Nope.

At the point the recording begins, Erotica1 already has the entirety of the victims assets.

The sole and only purpose of the subsequent entire 2hrs torment, is to humiliate and grief the victim.
That is malice.

...Steele, be straight with me on this; while the caller really went too far with the threats, don't you think Ero has become skilled in picking out who is most likely to go off the deep end and then push them off it by whatever means for entertainment?

i'm not northern, it's the midlands for a reason.

Oh yeah. Advocating real life violence over **** in a video game. You are a gentleman AND a scholar.


YOU and those like you are the cancer killing the gaming community.

In the area I live in (Robin Hood land) we hear such colloquialisms as 'ayup me duck' and 'nowt wrong we that'

Salvos, you're really not helping yourself here...

Mags, Baltec, Dave, Jenn et al: Stop the broken record already! We know that the victim used some bad words and slurs when, after two hours of torment, he finally snapped (losing his composure, temper and possible a few marbles). Does that make his use of said words excusable? No. Does it make his stream of invective understandable? Yes. Let's move on shall we?

The words the victim used, or the threats, empty or otherwise, made towards E1 were made after 2 hours of systematic psychological and emotional abuse. Yes, they were bad words. We get it. Really.

Cyberbullies stalk very deliberately.

Just posting to say that there's a line here. It's terribly blurry, but it's there. Nobody is going to be able to clearly define it. But nobody really needs to. It makes sense to me that CCP own the game; they own all the ones and zeros that make up New Eden and story the history of every pilot to have ever flown there. If they wanted to strip the privilege of being a part of this from someone, I think they have the right.

Now I just have to figure out how to impart my opinion that the line has been crossed here and Erotica 1 and friends are on the wrong side of it. Maybe typing this is enough; it probably isn't.

EVE is amazing in the way it provides countless ways for players to punish other players -- when they don't necessarily deserve any punishment at all. But, when it comes to a way to punish players who are completely deserving but know how to protect themselves (alts that never leave a station or that leave a station only in a disposable ship with the expectation of being blown up) there is very little recourse. This one is not and can not be in the hands of the players.

Once you go from scamming a player of all in-game assets and move on to crushing his dignity you've gone too far. Somewhere between those two points is the line. Please make a stand somewhere CCP.

Except all his hours of work also dissapear with that click, while they keep up appearances that he can get it back if he continues in the masquarade.

Salvos, you're really not helping yourself here...

Mags, Baltec, Dave, Jenn et al: Stop the broken record already! We know that the victim used some bad words and slurs when, after two hours of torment, he finally snapped (losing his composure, temper and possible a few marbles). Does that make his use of said words excusable? No. Does it make his stream of invective understandable? Yes. Let's move on shall we?

The words the victim used, or the threats, empty or otherwise, made towards E1 were made after 2 hours of systematic psychological and emotional abuse. Yes, they were bad words. We get it. Really.

That's what I said - up north. :P

At the point the recording begins, Erotica1 already has the entirety of the victims assets.

The sole and only purpose of the subsequent entire 2hrs torment, is to humiliate and grief the victim.
That is malice.

it was 1bn isk, it was 8 hours of in game grinding, or about an hour or less of overtime at work.

as far as scams go, this was about as newsworthy as "man goes to work on monday morning".

as far as lessons go in eve, this was a relatively cheap and quick one. i've lost more isk and taken more time to learn things about eve than this guy lost and learned in 1 bonus room.

i dont care.

I would like to slap you with a fish for that one.

then stop pretending that erotica is the biggest monster in the story when he did very little in comparison.