However, there *has* to be a line in the sand somewhere.

However, there *has* to be a line in the sand somewhere.

Would you still support a mechanism for ejecting those the majority of the game found unacceptable?

I added a few lines to my previous post, just to elaborate a bit, if you care to review them.

Thats a tough question you ask. Considering the analogy of the entirety of EVE comprising a Corp, in which the majority wants a member gone, then yes, I would support the mechanism. Though it is then up to the people who can actually "push the button" to enact it as to whether that actually happens. Doesn't discount the members right to express that that is what they want though.

I heard the recording. Listened to it four times. Do you know what does make it not wrong? The fact that sohkar got over it and doesn't care. The fact that sohkar is sick of people treating him like a victim when he has said and knows himself that he is not one, and doesn't care. Do you know why you're completely wrong about any of this being wrong? Because sohkar says you're wrong. If that's not enough for you, then I suggest you visit your real intentions here and take a good, long, hard think about why your opinion of the perceived victim should matter more than his own. How ******* presumptuous, pithy, pretentious and arrogant of you.

For the record, I'm not the broken record, you and your kind that dismisses arguments as 'weak' without even addressing them are set to repeat. There are bingo cards with that fallacy on them you know.

By a "signifigant proportion" do you mean a majority? Or say, a third?
(Im not sure what you changed, if you could repost the changes here that would help keep me clear on your point of view)

Why?

You explain (with colourful examples) what you feel is wrong or could be wrong

But WHY must EvE align to morality as you see it?

No changes iirc, just additional lines to articulate and elaborate on what was already there.

I don't know how to define "a significant proportion". I suppose that would depend on the perception of the actual entity with the power to enact what that proportion is lobbying for. In this case, it would constitute CCP as the one with the "buttan" (or translated as the Directors of this organisation) to do anything for, or against what a "significant proportion", depending on how THEY define that and perceive its significance, is expressing as their will as a part of that Corp/community.

Maybe it's just me, but if I got screwed over by a bunch of manipulative douches, I sure wouldn't be going back for seconds.

Mr Epeen

People seem to be caught up in the :sandbox: meme, yet EVE is emphatically not isolated from the rest of society.

Because at the end of the day EVE is a fictitious construct, involving real people. Your actions can always have real life consequences for the people you meet, intended or otherwise, and regardless of how you meet them. There is no difference between communicating with other EVE players, or picking up the phone and calling someone.

People seem to be caught up in the :sandbox: meme, yet EVE is emphatically not isolated from the rest of society.

Perhaps you can help me out here, why was the mark asked to get a dictionary and read out the meaning of some words?

It was not 'torture' by any definition as far as I am concerned, but it was, to put it mildly, distasteful.

But of course, you already know why, but you choose to ignore it.

That was the part of the Bonus Room experience I have an issue with.

Ero still refuses to clarify if he thinks he went too far with this particular issue or not.

Every single post that starts with this (and there are too many to count) is uninformed and assumes there is no line. There is, however. It's called a EULA.

Perhaps you can help me out here, why was the mark asked to get a dictionary and read out the meaning of some words?

It was not 'torture' by any definition as far as I am concerned, but it was, to put it mildly, distasteful.

But of course, you already know why, but you choose to ignore it.

That was the part of the Bonus Room experience I have an issue with.

Ero still refuses to clarify if he thinks he went too far with this particular issue or not.

But would you be ok if CCP made its decisions based on customer opinion if that opinion was not coming from the majority?

Inent to psychologically harm a player was there. they should be banned.

Then you aren't paying attention.

No, Erotica 1 does not think he went too far.

No, Sohkar does not think it went too far.

No, anybody who actually knows how a bonus room works won't think it went to far.

I think you got it right the first time.

He's not going back for seconds he's going back to help them whitewash the first recording.

I guarantee you they get him to apologise for his behaviour last time and say they did nothing wrong.

Some people just don't learn...