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Tarojan
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:42:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Its very simple guys.
EVE Online has no place for real-life pedophiles, rapists, online predators, pimps, terrorists, and drug dealers.
E1 and friends fall somewhere along that axis and have to go.
Very simple.
WOAH WOAH WOAH stop right there. Eve is a game not an extension of reality. If I choose to attack and kill a defenseless afk miner, that doesnt mean if I find an unconsious drunk in an alley I'll steal his wallet and kick seven shades out of him for fun. Stop equating video game behaiour to IRL behaviour. Yes going into team speak to talk about eve online and roleplay with other players ABOUT eveonline is PLAYING EVEONLINE. Alot of people need to get a grip. Theres alot of things wrong with EVE and its players behaviour, but I dont think the bonus room is one of them. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
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Posted - 2014.03.26 19:04:00 -
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What Jenn aSide said. Totally. The only thing that shocked and disgusted me was the racism. Greedy stupid racist lost all his in game assets? Good. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:45:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Hi, my name is Joe. I have a reputation for kicking small children in the face. A week ago this boy of age 7 stood in front of me in the grocery store line so I kicked him in the face. Kid should have known better than to stand in front of me, after all I do have a reputation. To punish his stupidity I kicked him in the face and stomach several more times.
real life...game....real life...game....
You having troubles telling the difference between the two bud? Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:55:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tarojan wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Hi, my name is Joe. I have a reputation for kicking small children in the face. A week ago this boy of age 7 stood in front of me in the grocery store line so I kicked him in the face. Kid should have known better than to stand in front of me, after all I do have a reputation. To punish his stupidity I kicked him in the face and stomach several more times. real life...game....real life...game.... You having troubles telling the difference between the two bud? You seem to be having trouble telling where they separate. If you torment someone for hours on a voice chat to the point where you're systematically attacking things like speech impediments, then it certainly has gone too far and crossed into the point of torment. At which point you click on an X (or pull a plug out of the wall) and it's over. This is one of the problems with modern society: no one expects grown folks to take care of themselves anymore.
I hate how people equate this to cyber bullying. You know whats so bad about being bullied? you can't make it stop. They come after you day after day. Its the fear more then anything else, the sick anticipation of more pain and humilation that you just cant prevent being inflicted upon you. The shame you feel and self loathing can become crippling too.
Thats not what happened here. Its not even close to what happened here. Im surprised so many dont understand that.
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:32:00 -
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Legetus Shmoof Metallii wrote:Navi Annages wrote:David Kir wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
No, you're the one defending a vicious and hateful racist who made death threats over video game assets, not us. There is never any excuse to do what he did, least of all some 'jerk' playing with them over teamspeak. Your stance here shows the same kind of immorality and irresponsibility as the so called 'victim'.
There's quite the difference between the actions and words of an angry man, and the purposeful provocation and humiliation inflicted by E1. Anger brings out the worst of us. You can expect an angry (or a drunk) man to act as a stupid and vile person. What's disgusting is E1's lucidity, while doing all of this. Don't try to blame the victim. A "racist" victim. Bigoted, not racist
Wrong, racist. he refused to speak with or listen to one of the hosts upon being told he was an african canadian and repeatly refered to him with the N word. Racist and in the UK crinimal. If he was british I would have made a complaint to the police here with a link to the sound could as evidence. People have gone to prision here in the UK for less then that. You yanks may tolerate that behaviour, but its still disgusting.
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:44:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:David Kir wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
Anger is an excuse for death threats and racism. Man, those *** guys must be continually pissed.
While I hate to use a real life example, I'll do it here. It's like self defense. You can defend your self against someone else trying to hurt you, but there is a limit to that. A guy slaps you in the face makes you angry and justifies self defense, but thats no reason to kill the guy, chop him up , kidnap his family and force feed his remains to them (srry, was watcing Southpark).
More than once I've seen someone go too far in self defense (like for example chasing down a guy who snatched an iphone, getting the iphone back the procedding to stomp the theif to the point where he ends up with brain damage and multiple broken bones) and the result has been the appropriate one: the original attacker is usually convicted where as the person who went too far gets even more time.
That's what should happen here. If somehting happens to Erotica1 (and well, who knows, it might be justified), the racist guy throwing real life death threats should get even more.
Yes. But your real life analogy is not accurate. E1 was not harmed here. You can say whatever you want, but no harm came of this to Erotica 1. The one and only harmed person, here, is the gullible man called Sokhar. He was provoked and humiliated, recorded and made fun of. No one said anything about Erotica1 being hurt, HOWEVER Erotica1 was subjected to death threats, which is WAY worse than losing some video game assets because you were greedy. That is the point. Sohkar or whatever his name was had a right to be mad. He had no right to break the law and spew racist abuse at anyone. He went too far. To proper thing to have done was tell erotica1 to go screw himself (which isn't a threat but rather a fun at home activity) and disconnect. That he did not makes his actions more reprehensible than anything Erotica1 did or could have done.
This. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.27 06:39:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Wulfy Johnson wrote:Well i pointed out early in this thread what worst case senarios could be if allowed to continue, but seems there are many perverted minds out there that seems to think this is ok. So lets take it a step further and address another elephant in the room, kids, you know those not legal yet that accually plays this game with us.
How many of those has been experimented on by this group of extortionists? wild guess? Anyway you wanna swing this, we have them, and this is a game not a social experiment on them.
A group that accually spend their ingame time devicing plans and putting together experiments on how to get people to humiliate themself as much as possible, aint no good for a community and has gone a far way from beeing the average tradehub scammer.
Too bad my English aint good enough to say all the fancy words needed to explain what this group of people is, and further more the total abcense of morale and understanding from E1 and the ilk, is rather disturbing in this context. But i guess someone with better understanding in the English word can fire that torch for me.
By the way, i must say this must be one of the better treads i`ve followed in a long time.
I will say the words for you. Online predators who operate like a pedophile ring, luring victims to places where they can emotionally **** and abuse them. And they record this **** and post it on the internet. BAN>THEM>ALL.
and while we are at it hang everyone who wants to work with kids just in case! its for the children: my god wont any of you think of the children? Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.27 07:55:00 -
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This is just going round and round. Angry shouty brigade says "bullying scumbag!" sensible people say "its a game not reality" Angry shouty brigade yell odd words like torture! cyber bullying! breachs of Eula! bad publicity! sensible people patatiently explain why thats not true and in fact diminishs the meanings of those words and insults real victims of them.
then everyone goes to bed and the same stuff gets written by 2 new groups of people. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:15:00 -
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Silvara Nocturn wrote:Tarojan wrote:This is just going round and round. Angry shouty brigade says "bullying scumbag!" sensible people say "its a game not reality" Angry shouty brigade yell odd words like torture! cyber bullying! breachs of Eula! bad publicity! sensible people patatiently explain why thats not true and in fact diminishs the meanings of those words and insults real victims of them.
then everyone goes to bed and the same stuff gets written by 2 new groups of people. I think those "sensible" people are nitpicking across the board to try and deflect from the question at hand. Do you think Erotica 1's behaviour and the bonus room is acceptable?
I spent years forum warrioring this sort of stuff. Wether I think the bonus room is good fun and high jinks or dark and creepy and bad for the game is neither here nor there. What matters is what the people who played the bonus room thought and from some of the clouds I have listened to some of them enjoyed themselves or certainly appeared to. Again though I'd like to repeat some earlier remarks I have made about the nature of bullying. This wasn't bullying. If'd you actaully lived in an abusive relationship you would know and understand the difference. Stop comparing space pixels in a game to real life. get a grip please.
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:17:00 -
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Wulfy Johnson wrote:All first time offenders caught in gang raping has a get out of jail freecard, yes?
YOU. stop it. gang **** isnt funny and shouldnt be cheapened like that to score points in a forum debate. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:51:00 -
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Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Wait a sec, this reminds me of something that happened just before the Mittani got himself banned when telling people to make the guy kill himself, just before Mittani (Think it was a wormhole group) Had a selection of videos where they held people ransom until they would sing their national anthem. Was that really so different to this? That was also broadcast at fanfest, so it got plenty of views without tears.
the difference there was they honoured the ransom. Wheras people believe (rightly or wrongly) that Erotica never honours his. Apparantly that was the line that was crossed. Oh and mayonaise. I'm still bemused by the somewhat hysterical reaction tbh. By all means say you finding scamming distasteful. What I found distasteful is comparing someone who plays a computer game with a child sex offender (yes people are doing that in this thread). People are using wildly inappropiate analogys and are whipping each other up into a state of righteuos indignation that I find a little off putting.
So as the mob whips itself into a frenzy we have Ripard bragging "I went one better: I set 2000 EVE players on him. They're blobbing the 14 or so trying to defend him quite satisfactorily for my taste. For my taste, that's EVE players policing the community.
CCP need merely seal E1's fate, not decide it."
source http://greedygoblin.blogspot.co.uk/
Hope he doesnt decide to come after me next. Or you huh?
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:56:00 -
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Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Tarojan wrote:Korhaka Mirunas wrote:Wait a sec, this reminds me of something that happened just before the Mittani got himself banned when telling people to make the guy kill himself, just before Mittani (Think it was a wormhole group) Had a selection of videos where they held people ransom until they would sing their national anthem. Was that really so different to this? That was also broadcast at fanfest, so it got plenty of views without tears. the difference there was they honoured the ransom. Wheras people believe (rightly or wrongly) that Erotica never honours his. Apparantly that was the line that was crossed. Oh and mayonaise. I'm still bemused by the somewhat hysterical reaction tbh. By all means say you finding scamming distasteful. What I found distasteful is comparing someone who plays a computer game with a child sex offender (yes people are doing that in this thread). People are using wildly inappropiate analogys and are whipping each other up into a state of righteuos indignation that I find a little off putting. So as the mob whips itself into a frenzy we have Ripard bragging "I went one better: I set 2000 EVE players on him. They're blobbing the 14 or so trying to defend him quite satisfactorily for my taste. For my taste, that's EVE players policing the community. CCP need merely seal E1's fate, not decide it." source http://greedygoblin.blogspot.co.uk/Hope he doesnt decide to come after me next. Or you huh? You do know how EVE Online works right? Deciding not to honour a ransom isn't a bannable offence.
Thats a point we have being trying to make. Its not being listened to. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 06:36:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:So, since the witch hunt has been outed as a witch hunt, what do we do now?
My thought is, we make a list. Since, thanks to Sohkar, it has been revealed that it's laughable to call it torture, and no harm was really done... then what we really have here is precisely what it looked like.
A textbook example of demagoguery, trying to whip up people into a lynch mob against someone, because you don't like something about them.
But since Ripard Teg is now the Fred Phelps of EVE, who are the rest of the Westboros? I say we start getting some names down. For our own mutual protection, of course.
Thoughts?
Has sohkar posted on this thread or something? threads gone from 221 to 350+ while I was at work.
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 06:43:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Tarojan wrote:Has sohkar posted on this thread or something? threads gone from 221 to 350+ while I was at work.
Yes he did. He is also talking it all through on TS and Twitch at the moment. Link
ty mate
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 07:01:00 -
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Yeah could we have a link to the stream please if its still ongoing? thanks Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 07:04:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Tarojan wrote:Yeah could we have a link to the stream please if its still ongoing? thanks Just ended, sorry.
ye I couldn't find it on my google search. Ah well maybe next time :D Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 07:06:00 -
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Oh and Erotica if you dont sort your passport out for next year IM GONNA STAND on a platform of the removal of concord from high sec. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 07:10:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Tarojan wrote:Oh and Erotica if you dont sort your passport out for next year IM GONNA STAND on a platform of the removal of concord from high sec. are you running for CSM cuz ill vote you in #1
Not this year, voting for monk this time.
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 07:14:00 -
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thanks :D
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 07:21:00 -
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sohkar wrote:i just got off the TS with erotica 1 and i did this to try to put a end to all this stuff people are putting out there and get how i felt about everything. I think all you people need to drop it. the "bonus room" happened over a month ago. Ask yourself why is it now just coming out now? if it wasnt for the article written about it no one would know or care. I know some of you said its not about erotica 1 or myself and you maybe right but what is it about then that people got scam it happens all the time even in RL. I got scammed and made an fool of myself in the process he did not ask me to do anything that would personalize me to people i dont know other then by my voice. Scamming and bonus rooms are not the problem until it makes someone hurt then selfs or others til then you may not agree with mine bumping or scamming then dont do it. Just because you dont agree with it doesnt make it a crime
Thats cool dude. Please will you avoid N bombs in future though? It wasnt cool man. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 08:05:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-difference-between-prank-and-bully.html?m=1
Gevlon should have watched the stream. Instead he made a "ripard post."
Or is he defending me? I can't tell.
Thought he was defending you. Saying what he said first time about you. Hes immune to your scams cos he has common sense and isnt a moron.
edit spelling ugh I need sleep Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 09:20:00 -
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Erotica I want to hear you sing teletubbies say eh oh. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 09:54:00 -
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Tarojan wrote:Erotica I want to hear you sing teletubbies say eh oh.
You didnt answer? :( if you dont know the words I can type them out for you: "Tinky winky, dipsy, Ripard Treg, pooah. teletubbies, teletubies...say..eh..oh EHO OHHH"] Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:22:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Is there a recording somewhere of this second encounter between Erotica1 and Sohkar?
Link please. http://www.twitch.tv/kristallnachte/b/514883838 Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:27:00 -
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well I got to 4 hrs of the stream, but I cant focus any more gotta sleep gonna be another rough night at work. Years end yuck.
Sounded like you had a lot of fun props to sokhar for taking part. Nice stories Ero always fun to hear another players expereinces. Peace out all
Everyone I debated with? GF. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
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