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Tuscor
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:16:00 -
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Just ban Erotica1. The community does not need poisonous twats like that - and I for one am happy for the sandbox and 'emergent gameplay' to take second seat to cleaning the community of such filth. |

Tuscor
United System's Commonwealth
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:20:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Here is Jesters latest Blog http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/the-bonus-round.htmlAs you can probably tell it is to do with Erotica 1's bonus round. It is a very damning blog. I can only surmise that Jester has brought the subject up with CCP and was not happy with there response which thus led him to create this blog. (Many apologise if I am wrong) I would be very interested to hear what the community at large thinks and perhaps for Erotica and friends to refute the claims being made that they actually enjoy the pain and humiliation that they cause, especially to the man in the recording linked in Jesters Blog. Is it CCP's responsibility to police out of game interaction between their players where no law has been broken? If so, where does that responsibility end? Should they ban a player when his wife complains about him playing EVE instead of doing the chores? If I hook up with another EVE player who happens to be from say Japan, should CCP have the right and duty to ban me if the GM involved disapproves of inter-racial relationships? What about homosexual relationships? What if I encourage another player to log in to fleet and miss church on sunday? Where exactly does CCP's "responsibility" end?
CCP might just want to stop gross behaviours associated with their game. They have no responsiblity to maybe, and certainly no legal obligation but maybe they should do something anyway in this instance. |

Tuscor
United System's Commonwealth
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:24:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Tuscor wrote:Just ban Erotica1. The community does not need poisonous twats like that - and I for one am happy for the sandbox and 'emergent gameplay' to take second seat to cleaning the community of such filth. People talk about gays in very similar terms to the ones you have used in your post. Come to that, so have insane monogonadal austrian dictators.
Sure, and for many years that was considered an acceptable way to treat/speak about homosexuals. That is thankfully changing.
But dont try and compare this to homophobia, or german dictators for god's sake! Discriminating and vilifying minority groups is not the same as disliking and calling for action against a bullying sociopath... |

Tuscor
United System's Commonwealth
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:25:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Hands up everyone who can see a problem with demanding the CCP ban people on the basis of "They haven't broken any game rules, and they haven't broken any laws, but I find them personally distasteful"
... tentatively puts hand up ...
but I still want Erotica to stop, or for the rules to be changed to make that kind of behaviour against the rules. |

Tuscor
United System's Commonwealth
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:32:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Tuscor wrote:Malcanis wrote:Tuscor wrote:Just ban Erotica1. The community does not need poisonous twats like that - and I for one am happy for the sandbox and 'emergent gameplay' to take second seat to cleaning the community of such filth. People talk about gays in very similar terms to the ones you have used in your post. Come to that, so have insane monogonadal austrian dictators. Sure, and for many years that was considered an acceptable way to treat/speak about homosexuals. That is thankfully changing. But dont try and compare this to homophobia, or german dictators for god's sake! Discriminating and vilifying minority groups is not the same as disliking and calling for action against a bullying sociopath... Can you give me a reliable method of distinguishing them that doesn't boil down to "stuff that you personally dislike"? I find brussels sprouts disgusting; just the thought of them makes me heave a little. Can I petition to get someone banned because they post recipes for them in local? If not, then you're saying that only the things you find disgusting are a problem. Things I find disgusting and things evengelical christians find disgusting are just fine, however. Am I right? Far simpler for CCP to not try and be 400,000 people's mom and stay the hell out of our out of game activities, don't you think?
You argue well - but I still think that there is an issue with the fact that the person in question was located in eve, and the whole thing centred around his eve experience (ie all his stuff being contracted, etc). I totally hear what you are saying about likes and dislikes being subjective. |

Tuscor
United System's Commonwealth
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:52:00 -
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Malcanis is right I think, although his way of arguing is very confontational and adversarial 
CCP shouldn't just ban Erotica. MAYBE they should carefully assess how much they want that kind of behaviour associated with thier game (and it is associated, abviously, despite the offending behaviour occurring out of game). And then MAYBE they should change the rules to make identifying victims for this kind of behaviour ingame and then using ingame activities (scamming and contracting their stuff) as part of the tormenting behaviour against the rules.
This is just an idea - it would probably be very hard to draft properly into the TOS and it may be deemed too subjective. But rules can be changed. Those of us that come from common law jurisdictions know that the laws constantly change to reflect society's expectations and changing views on things - homosexuality was once against the law in the UK - now its not... it is currently legal to use certain tax loopholes involving the channel islands and trusts... the UK government is changing the law becuase they dont like it...
Its currently arguably within the rules but maybe it shouldnt be... |

Tuscor
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:44:00 -
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I find myself liking this Malcanis guy. His no holds barred posting is a bit bullish and his confrontational approach elicits a fiery response from some, but I think his posts are the most level-headed here.
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