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Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 1218	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:09:00 - [211] - Quote I think the price will stabilize at 1B at the end of the year. Edit signature? What's the point?
Tara Akiga Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:12:00 - [212] - Quote So what?..I make 300m isk/h...I don't care.
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 5108	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:15:00 - [213] - Quote hellokittyonline wrote: The reason plex prices are so high is because casual PvE nets too much income. So it's a give and take, you either get to plex your account or you get an isk faucet. I make far more ISK from flipping PLEX on the market than from casual PvE. Thus I would suggest that the reason PLEX prices are so high is because they can be bought and sold on the market, and furthermore they can be hauled between markets. Gotta have money to make money. The corollary is that the people with more money make more money. Thus the people who already have 36 PLEX on the market are doing more to raise the price of PLEX than the people scraping together 700M ISK a month to play the game for "free". If you're not keen on the idea of setting yourself the goal of raising that ISK each month, you have two options: one is to pay your account subscription using real money, the other is to buy a boat load of PLEX and join the trading club. Well, there's always "quit the game" but that doesn't help anyone. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2558	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:22:00 - [214] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: I make far more ISK from flipping PLEX on the market than from casual PvE. Who do you think is buying the PLEX you flip? Edit: That's not a snipe on you. Some people have the brains and patience to work out an investment plan within EVE, and can make mad isk from it. Most do not, and those are the people who spend their game time grinding enough isk to buy your PLEX. The fact that they are generally so lazy that they can't be bothered to change their market venue for the lowest price speaks volumes. Their laziness is what allows you to move PLEX about and make any profit at all. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2558	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:30:00 - [215] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: it'll go up endlessly, very slowly but surely. Incorrect. It will stall somewhere around the maximum theoretical monthly isk income of the typical missioning player that uses PLEX to keep their account going. It hasn't hit this yet, so it hasn't equalized. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 5108	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:35:00 - [216] - Quote Seven Koskanaiken wrote: Don't worry at 450...500...600...650....700...750 supply will overcome demand and the price will go down. Economics will definitely start to work at 750. Maybe. When the value of a PLEX goes up, the number you need to sell to meet your monthly 2B PvP budget goes down. As PLEX value goes up, I expect to see the number of PLEX sold per original purchaser go down. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 5109	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:36:00 - [217] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: Peter Raptor wrote: it'll go up endlessly, very slowly but surely. Incorrect. It will stall somewhere around the maximum theoretical monthly isk income of the typical missioning player that uses PLEX to keep their account going. It hasn't hit this yet, so it hasn't equalized. I disagree. IMHO the market value of PLEX will keep spiralling upwards due to speculators. The play-to-pay folks will start quitting, paying a 12 month subscription and filling in months with PLEX where they can, or get smarter about making ISK. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Rainbow Dash Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 93	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:53:00 - [218] - Quote Seven Koskanaiken wrote: Don't worry at 450...500...600...650....700...750 supply will overcome demand and the price will go down. Economics will definitely start to work at 750. Maybe. You clearly don't understand economics
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 4598	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:37:00 - [219] - Quote I'm seriously considering logging in to the game for a change and seeing if I can somehow work this to my advantage. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Desimus Maximus Adeptus Mechanicus. 53	Posted - 2014.03.29 06:48:00 - [220] - Quote PenguinJim wrote: The fact is as said CCP have NO influence on Plex prices.. Its completely player controlled. As if CCP doesn't seed markets with items.. or have a full-time staff member whose job is to manipulate the markets... CCP fucks with the market all the time. To sit and believe that it is all player driven is ridiculous. You think Somer actually has a supply line of ships? Ships that take anywhere from 4 days to 2 weeks to build, EACH.. and they are flowing out like water. CCP would NEVER interfere with the market. They wouldn't give one-offs to their ISK-sucking entity with the caveat of "please, don't tell anyone, ;). Thx for removing billions of ISK from the market by the hour."
Brewlar Kuvakei Adeptio Gloriae 256	Posted - 2014.03.29 09:03:00 - [221] - Quote Yeah I have stocked up a lot of PLEX I only play EVE sporadically now. Plex will break 1bn by the end of this year easily, as the game dies and becomes more of a PVE focused WOW grind fest plex will only climb higher. The end game of EVE is not going to be who holds the most SOV, the winner will be decided by which individual char has the most PLEX and this will only drive the price through the roof towards the end.
IDGAD The Scope Gallente Federation 101	Posted - 2014.03.29 11:39:00 - [222] - Quote Brewlar Kuvakei wrote: Yeah I have stocked up a lot of PLEX I only play EVE sporadically now. Plex will break 1bn by the end of this year easily, as the game dies and becomes more of a PVE focused WOW grind fest plex will only climb higher. The end game of EVE is not going to be who holds the most SOV, the winner will be decided by which individual char has the most PLEX and this will only drive the price through the roof towards the end. So it's who runs the most C6 with a very active team, or who runs the most FW missions right? Because everything else is laughably low isk by comparison.
Adoris Nolen Sama Guild 52	Posted - 2014.03.29 11:50:00 - [223] - Quote IDGAD wrote: So it's who runs the most C6 with a very active team, or who runs the most FW missions right? Because everything else is laughably low isk by comparison. When it comes to isk farming, nothing, I literally mean nothing beats or even comes close to Cap escalations. FYI, when 5% of the Eve players generate +20% of the new isk in game; you're in the wrong line of work.
Loraine Gess Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists 176	Posted - 2014.03.29 12:24:00 - [224] - Quote Desimus Maximus wrote: PenguinJim wrote: The fact is as said CCP have NO influence on Plex prices.. Its completely player controlled. As if CCP doesn't seed markets with items.. or have a full-time staff member whose job is to manipulate the markets... CCP fucks with the market all the time. To sit and believe that it is all player driven is ridiculous. You think Somer actually has a supply line of ships? Ships that take anywhere from 4 days to 2 weeks to build, EACH.. and they are flowing out like water. CCP would NEVER interfere with the market. They wouldn't give one-offs to their ISK-sucking entity with the caveat of "please, don't tell anyone, ;). Thx for removing billions of ISK from the market by the hour." Somer can buy those ships right off the market you idiot, of course he has an unquenchable flow of basic, widely available commodities
Dyniss Burning Skies Apocalypse Now. 25	Posted - 2014.03.29 12:46:00 - [225] - Quote All I hear is a bunch of people crying. Seriously 750mil per plex is nothing. If you can afford to spend at least 20-30 minutes a day in a months time then go get a job and pay for your sub normally.
Bob Bedala 43	Posted - 2014.03.29 13:05:00 - [226] - Quote Victor Andall wrote: CCP is not responsible for PLEX prices on the market. What? Yes, yes it is, just not directly. CCP manipulates the price of PLEX down with plex offers (increasing supply), and up with super new ways to use plex like dual-char training (increasing demand). The Eve market is more of a free market than any market on earth AFAIK, but this "it's a completely player-driven market" myth that get espoused is exactly that, a myth, and PLEX is one of the more obvious examples. The price of plex hits CCP's real-world bottom line, of course they monitor and massage the prices. Higher PLEX, more attractive for CCP's bottom line in the short-term but... I'm no economist, but surely this leads to inflation -- CCP let players print ISK which can only devalue the currency if unchecked, no? The real question is what is happening with inflation? What is an ISK actually worth now? Are levels of inflation making things very tough for new players to get a toe-hold financially? All this talk of meaningful PI profits, incursions and nullibearing are not available to a lot of players -- probably not to the majority of players.
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 1074	Posted - 2014.03.29 13:14:00 - [227] - Quote Before, CCP tried to stabilize the price of PLEX but releasing massive stockpiles from banned accounts. Now they obviously decided to stop doing that. So here is what happens : Prices go up. Because CCP didn't intervene for once. So stop whining because CCP did what they were supposed to do: let the sandbox run. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking. Proposed change for ECM - Not chance based - not max target reduction based
Vera Algaert Republic University Minmatar Republic 1351	Posted - 2014.03.29 13:38:00 - [228] - Quote Altrue wrote: So stop whining because CCP did what they were supposed to do: let the sandbox run. CCP controls every parameter of this sandbox, it's silly to pretend they don't control the result. It's equally stupid to assume that CCP manipulating PLEX prices requires any intervention in the PLEX market itself - If CCP decided to make npcs target heavy drones tomorrow then PLEX prices would drop.
Thellorms Nor'Fein Lone Rangers 56	Posted - 2014.03.29 13:55:00 - [229] - Quote Went looking for more information/theory/speculation related to the increase of PLEX prices, and instead found another reason why I hate posting on the forums (yet here I am, but certainly not as an OP). The EVE community is downright brutal and I except nothing less than unsympathetic ears and throat slitting, backed up by the attitude of "Why should we care?" This is why I'm getting more into another Sci-Fi game (with less a community as roughly described above) at the moment and spending less time in EVE. Not a soul will miss me, and frankly, I really don't care. I'm equally as concerned as the OP and a handful of others here as to what this means for the future. Yep, it's a squeeze and I've felt it to, having taken the hit and canceled all my second character trainings. As a more casual player not accustomed to the practices others are claiming is making them billions in a couple of days, the increasing price of PLEX doesn't bode well for players like me who play this game casually without access (yet) to an incursion group or whatever else is making the big money (and you can take your math figures and shove them up your...). To the OP, I commend your bravery making this post in the first place. As for me, having spend 10 years in this game between my accounts and feeling that CCP has consistently not delivered on the promise of their visions throughout the years (add a couple new ships, some modules, rebalance a few other ships, make a change to this here, and let's call that an expansion!) is effectively spelling the end for me soon. But this is a matter for another topic and thread, so... I feel your pain, best of luck, and let's hope we eventually see things level out to a more manageable level soon (more PLEX sales would really help I think, and it's not like it hurts CCP's wallet at all!) Ahh, Jita... - http://i.imgur.com/UHGT4xc.jpg
Daedalus Hades EVE-RO 2	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:12:00 - [230] - Quote Vera Algaert wrote: Altrue wrote: So stop whining because CCP did what they were supposed to do: let the sandbox run. CCP controls every parameter of this sandbox, it's silly to pretend they don't control the result. It's equally stupid to assume that CCP manipulating PLEX prices requires any intervention in the PLEX market itself - If CCP decided to make npcs target heavy drones tomorrow then PLEX prices would drop. I see what you did there :)
Heinel Sidewind Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 19	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:47:00 - [231] - Quote I think higher PLEX prices will be better for the game. If anything, newbies who start with just one account wouldn't be at such a huge disadvantage against people with 5-10 accounts. If running 3+ accounts become unsustainable, then the playing field would be about even.
Freakdevil Aliastra Gallente Federation 104	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:52:00 - [232] - Quote Brewlar Kuvakei wrote: Yeah I have stocked up a lot of PLEX I only play EVE sporadically now. Plex will break 1bn by the end of this year easily, as the game dies and becomes more of a PVE focused WOW grind fest plex will only climb higher. The end game of EVE is not going to be who holds the most SOV, the winner will be decided by which individual char has the most PLEX and this will only drive the price through the roof towards the end. Your negativity and delusions of failure are based on pure speculation and fear as you cited no credible facts to substantiate your claims. Where is the basis for your predictions? I really doubt people will play this game purely for PVE. End game dies my arse. Have you considered the source of the PLEX market??? You might be right or wrong, but you need to provide more basis for your argument. Right now its a Straw Hut on Fig leaf in the middle of Tsunami.
hedge betts Shiyurida State Protectorate Caldari State 198	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:22:00 - [233] - Quote 800 million in belle right now Pog mo thoin
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 520	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:34:00 - [234] - Quote hedge betts Shiyurida wrote: 800 million in belle right now yeah but half a dozen @ 670mill sell in Hakshma just 10 minutes ago
Christopher AET Segmentum Solar 637	Posted - 2014.03.29 19:15:00 - [235] - Quote No Idea what you are talking about, Plex prices look to have risen only by -ú1 I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 1073	Posted - 2014.03.29 20:19:00 - [236] - Quote CCP i demand that you do something to lower the price of PLEX so I can continue to play for free or else I will cancel my subscriptions and stop playing for free. Your move CCP! "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Baron Chauman Gladiators of Rage Fidelas Constans 13	Posted - 2014.03.29 20:54:00 - [237] - Quote Heinel Sidewind wrote: I think higher PLEX prices will be better for the game. If anything, newbies who start with just one account wouldn't be at such a huge disadvantage against people with 5-10 accounts. If running 3+ accounts become unsustainable, then the playing field would be about even. Higher plex prices will not accomplish this. As long as you can fund one account on plex doing things that don't require much attention or active effort from the person behind the keyboard (mining or null ratting with afk ishtars) you can fund any number of accounts by doing the same thing on all of them. Multiple character training makes this even cheaper and more convenient.
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1774	Posted - 2014.03.29 20:55:00 - [238] - Quote Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: CCP i demand that you do something to lower the price of PLEX so I can continue to play for free or else I will cancel my subscriptions and stop playing for free. Your move CCP! You can play EVE for free? SWEET! When can we start? ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Nalelmir Ahashion Omegon 42nd Core 246	Posted - 2014.03.29 21:16:00 - [239] - Quote it's really simple... PLEX will reach a point where people won't purchase it and that's where the prices will stop. People will have loads of plex on storage or will purchase new plex to get ISK for and will sell lower to get those isks. Supply and Demand, remember that the new Barbie dress up minigame for coloring spaceship was added recently and people purchase plexes to paint their ships and produce higher quality of tears when they'll lose them. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 6	Posted - 2014.03.29 21:21:00 - [240] - Quote Of course CCP is already looking for the prices of PLEX. And for the rest of the market. And of course its in CCPs interest to keep the PLEX prices high, forcing ppl to buy them with real money. CCP has professionals looking over the markets. coloring the own spaceships and let ppl pay for that is a smart move.

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