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Kristalll
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:01:00 -
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Just so it's easily viewable:
SOHKAR TALKS WITH EROTICA 1: http://www.twitch.tv/kristallnachte/b/514883838
That MAY require some skipping forward.
Good job CCP! This is a solid nonstatement on the matter =P |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:06:00 -
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Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:As long as Erotica isn't getting away with this without consequences. I am a happy camper.
Even more happier that it is now very crystal clear to everyone that what occurred is not tolerated by CCP.
Thank you very much CCP, faith restored.
Read more closely.
Cases of real life harassment are not accepted and will be investigated.
This is something EVERYBODY is in favor of.
What was never stated is whether they think the Sohkar situation counts as harassment, and MANY people don't think it does. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:07:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Kristalll wrote:Shill blurt Keep on shillin Imma link this thread when some poor critter temporarily off his meds gets taken to a TS channel and hazed to the point of homicide.
And it would be his fault for not taking his meds as he was ordered by his physician. CRAZY PEOPLE ARE CRAZY how do we have anything to do with that?
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:11:00 -
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PinkPanter wrote:Riot Girl wrote: Bye bye, don't forget to drop off your stuff in the bonus room on your way out.
Please. You think i'm 10 or something lol? Oh wait. Eve is your life so... haha
Yup, we're all just pubbies that take internet spaceships seriously. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:13:00 -
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Cedric deBouilard wrote:so... did Erotica 1 got banned or not?
I couldn't get anything from out of CCP corporate-speech
No. The statement was made in a very smart way.
To the pirate types, who really read the words, it only talks about real life harassment.
To the carebear types who don't read the words, it clearly says "erotica 1 was harassing that man."
So it get's the people on the witchhunt to stop by, in their mind, making the case look closed, while the pirates and reality simply say this is the same statement the EULA makes. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:32:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote: I do gain comfort in the knowledge that CCP will use the full force of the EULA/TOS for real life harrassment - even if it is dressed up as Bonus Room in-character role playing.
Go inject reading comprehension. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:33:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:
Hi, Lady Areola Fappington
The EULA has always affected external content to a degree, when that content is shared using our systems. For example when you post a link that contains inappropriate content, even though that content is hosted somewhere outside EVE Online, there's always been potential for disciplinary action. We haven't changed any policies but we do reserve the right, as we always have, to revoke access to our services if they are being used to facilitate something, or share something, that violates our terms of service.
The best example of this is spies from one group (let's say CFC) are in another group (lets say PL) and see PL dudes posting **** links in a structure bash fleet, because that's what people like to do.
The spy then reports all of them and they get banned/tempbanned over offensive material that nobody actually took offense to. Manipulation of the EULA for personal vendettas. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:40:00 -
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Ambassador Crane wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Please feel free to discuss this statement in this thread, however please also be aware of the forum rules, and our rules on discussion of warnings and bans. Above all, lets keep it civil and constructive. Thanks again. I understand the statement not to discuss particular cases/bans/etc. However, given that many obviously don't find this announcement to be entirely clear, perhaps we can get some clear examples of what would be considered punishable offenses? I, and I'm sure everyone would agree that not every case can or will be cut and paste situations, that each case can not be planned for. However, just a few examples to help the readers better understand where your minds are at in addressing this would be cool.
Verbally berating someone and using alts to continually spam the person with death threats/textual abuse.
Basically, if you HARASS someone, you have problems. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:42:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:
Rather than argue the point with your relentlessly disingenuous and tasteless self, i would simply advise you that everything you post will be viewed in that post-meltdown light. Maybe once you've goaded someone to end themselves, without that being the aim of course, just a bit of fun, maybe then you can comfort yourself with some version of victim blaming. Or maybe the guilt will eat you down to the bone.
Just like ID Software feels horribly about how they are responsible for releasing Doom and causing columbine to happen. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:51:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Kristalll wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:
Rather than argue the point with your relentlessly disingenuous and tasteless self, i would simply advise you that everything you post will be viewed in that post-meltdown light. Maybe once you've goaded someone to end themselves, without that being the aim of course, just a bit of fun, maybe then you can comfort yourself with some version of victim blaming. Or maybe the guilt will eat you down to the bone.
Just like ID Software feels horribly about how they are responsible for releasing Doom and causing columbine to happen. Like i said: disingenuous and tasteless.
I don't see how not. On my stream you got to hear me and all the other agents be as genuine as we could possibly be.
Yes, if I was the catalyst that caused someone to kill people, I'd feel a bit guilty. But if that catalyst is causing the person to lose internet spaceship in a game that is literally about losing, killing, and taking internet spaceships, how is that my FAULT?
What about when someone kills themselves because they went AFK and their mission navy raven died in a mission? Whose fault is it then? |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 14:37:00 -
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Kethry Avenger wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Hello everyone,
For the last few weeks the community has been debating the topic of real life harassment, and its connection to the EVE Universe. The EVE Universe Community Team has been working on this issue for some time now, and has had extensive discussions about it with your elected representatives, the Council of Stellar Management.
EVE is a virtual world whose inhabitants have more freedom to play the villain and experiment with various backhanded tactics than in any other MMO. The freedom to scam and commit piracy, espionage, and extortion are all fundamental to the EVE Online experience, and CCP will never change that. However, it is important to remember that the EVE universe is a virtual world, and behavior of this nature should remain firmly within that virtual world.
While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, CCP strongly disapproves of clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against our players in the outside world.
CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.
Harassment poses a potential problem in any virtual world, and CCP has dealt with cases of this nature for more than a decade. We will continue to monitor and evaluate claims of harassment based on our policies and acceptable standards of behavior.
As always, CCP will not discuss specific cases of policy enforcement. However, if you have any questions regarding this statement, please feel free to pose them in this thread, and we will respond to the best of our ability.
- The EVE Universe Community Team So in a hypothetical situation where you are able to scam someone of all their in-game assets(which is totally fine). If after accomplishing this fact you use their greed, and sense of helplessness and the emotional value those assets have to them to harass and humiliate a player for 2 hours, including harassing other people in the room , then post this online, and link to it. That person would be permanently banned from this community and game correct? With some level of punishment including up to and including permanent bans for any accomplices. If that was the case I could continue to play this game with a clear conscience. If that was not the case and this hypothetical person was ever seen in game again. I'm not sure I could support CCP with my income, no matter how much I enjoy the game and its stories.
Not a SINGLE person has said you can harass people. Where you seem to be caught up in the retoric is ASSUMING any harassment happened in the Sohkar case, when objective evidence says the opposite.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:32:00 -
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For those wanting an IN DEPTH look at the Bonus Room (I try to keep bias at a minimum, feel free to call me out) you can right here:
http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:42:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Thanks for the disclosure. Full pants-on-head ********. As I thought.
What exactly do you mean?
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:48:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Kristalll wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Thanks for the disclosure. Full pants-on-head ********. As I thought. What exactly do you mean? I mean the entire scam is full pants-on-head ********.
I didn't realize "genius" is filtered for some people. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:59:00 -
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Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:So, anonymous conversations on Teamspeak are now considered 'real life?'
Is CCP now in the business of insuring that EVE players do not 'have an unpleasant experience' outside of EVE?
'Outside of EVE' does not equal 'real life'. Many seem confused by this.
Because 'an anonymous unpleasant experience' is all it was for the bonus room participant. At no point are the participant's true identities or whereabouts made public.
Yet CCP jumps to the "victim's" rescue anyway. Because having an unpleasant experience in Eve (or TS) might cause a few people to quit the game....
Welcome to the kindler, gentler, more sustainable and peanut-allergen-free EVE. Now, with 100% less 'cyberbullying'.
"Cyberbullying" - what idiocy. Would have hoped the people running EVE would be smart enough not to buy into rank nonsense pushed in trendy journals by aggrieved social scientists.
Technically CCP hasn't gone to the "victims" defense as that would assume the Bonus Room is harassment.
BTW: Full Disclosure article: http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:01:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Kristalll wrote:I didn't realize "genius" is filtered for some people. I absolutely acknowledge that it is genius that Erotica1 has managed to convince people to not only voluntarily surrender all their assets, but full API. That is an amazing achievement, and I applaud it. But the Bonus Room? Its like its designed by 30yr old virgins at their annual treehouse meeting. Its just.... ********.
Could you explain the specific parts that make it....******** I think is the word you're using?
Just about every bit of it has a goal.
Full Disclosure explanation of the Bonus Room: http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:16:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Do you have any self respect? I have plenty. Thanks! Are you a wizard? You seem to be taking this very personally. I think the Bonus Room design is pants-on-head ********. I think its designers are obviously an elite and select group of 30lvl wizards. Thats my opinion. If you don't like it, too bad!
Level 40 Rogue actually.
Is there a part of the Bonus Room you would change to improve it? |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:20:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Kristalll wrote:Is there a part of the Bonus Room you would change to improve it? Hire me as a consultant and I'll plug all the loopholes, add some style and ensure there is never again any cause for concern about possible CCP intervention.
I'd need an example of your good work first. Possibly a resume.
FULL DISCLOSURE ON THE BONUS ROOM http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:30:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Do you have any self respect? I have plenty. Thanks! Are you a wizard? You seem to be taking this very personally. I think the Bonus Room design is pants-on-head ********. I think its designers are obviously an elite and select group of 30lvl wizards. Thats my opinion. If you don't like it, too bad! It's not what I think of your opinion that matters. It's that your 'opinion' is delivered with such vitriol. It's obviously intended as an attempt to cause butthurt. What makes you think someone being a 'wizard' (whatever the hell that means) would be cause to feel butthurt?
Wait, do you mean he is deliberately harassing you in an attempt to get a reaction? Do you feel he is mentally pressuring you and insulting your feelings?
I think that might be Torture bro (as defined by amnesty internation, of course) |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:36:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Well at least it's clear now. If anyone does anything you don't like in game, post a ticket with tears, tell them you are feeling upset and demand the other party be instantly banned. If they aren't going to draw lines, and are going to arbitrarily ban people, then we shouldn't assume line ans should report any time something happens in game that we dislike, right? We don't want to assume that it was all find and then later realise it was harassment all along.
This very may well devolve into a new FLOOD of petitions linking all kinds of things. FC's freak out in comms and a spy will send it to CCP and say "Shadoo was berating this young FC in comms in front of everyone! The young FC had to just take it or risk being kicked out of the corp!"
At least in THAT case Shadoo did something mean. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:45:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Kristalll wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Well at least it's clear now. If anyone does anything you don't like in game, post a ticket with tears, tell them you are feeling upset and demand the other party be instantly banned. If they aren't going to draw lines, and are going to arbitrarily ban people, then we shouldn't assume line ans should report any time something happens in game that we dislike, right? We don't want to assume that it was all find and then later realise it was harassment all along. This very may well devolve into a new FLOOD of petitions linking all kinds of things. FC's freak out in comms and a spy will send it to CCP and say "Shadoo was berating this young FC in comms in front of everyone! The young FC had to just take it or risk being kicked out of the corp!" At least in THAT case Shadoo did something mean. I plan to report any time I feel like someone might be upset by a situation I'm in. It seems only fair. I shouldn't be punished for having thicker skin than some random pleb, so I think some random would be upset by a situation I'm in I'll be reporting it as an upsetting situation.
In fact, we should also go out and report other peoples situations that might make them upset that we weren't even in, and without asking the victim if they have a problem.
Clearly that's what CCP is asking us to do. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:46:00 -
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Also, some posts are getting deleted. Just a heads up. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:48:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I plan to report any time I feel like someone might be upset by a situation I'm in. It seems only fair. You have completely epicly misunderstood the whole situation. plz biomass yourself now.
For a FULL DISCLOSURE on the Bonus Room and how it works, please visit: http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:58:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Kristalll wrote:In fact, we should also go out and report other peoples situations that might make them upset that we weren't even in, and without asking the victim if they have a problem.
Clearly that's what CCP is asking us to do. Yes, tell us more about your passive aggressive plan to send more petitions and flood CCP with support queries to teach them a lesson. It's a great plan, one I am sure you and like minded individuals will follow through on, and one that CCP will roll over for, rather than blacklist the people flooding the petition system and silently ignore or autorespond to all of their reports. So, good luck with that. I mean, teaching CCP a lesson. Sounds like a productive use of your time.
It wouldn't be about teaching CCP a lesson. It would be about cleaning up EVE and helping CCP do it.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:59:00 -
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Shizuken wrote:Riot Girl wrote:fudface wrote:Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:Thanks CCP and I hope you never do take the sand box out of the game. I'm waiting for Erotica 1 to post before I assume this. from what i saw of that imgur link that was posted he cant log in. +1 CCP looks like there is a limit to what you can get away with. Accounts are always suspended when they're under investigation so gg Ripar Teg for using your position to prevent another player from being able to play eve. I think there's something in the EULA about that too. His being a member of the CSM is a tangential issue. EVERY player is allowed to comment on the goings on of EvE. He didn't abuse any CSM authority in making a blog post about what he thought was reprehensible. Any one of us could have done the exact same thing
Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:05:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote: If your gaming or real life antics are such that you typically fly as close to the line of decency as possible, then I'd say you better give greater consideration to your actions in future. Thankfully, for the vast majority of our community, this won't be an issue. The take away message is: don't be that bad apple.
Define: "Decency" in this context. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:19:00 -
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Bayonnefrog wrote: Riot Girl, do not shift the blame away from Ero 1 and Co. THEY were the ones who created the mess they find themselves in now, not Ripard. He merely pointed out what happened and articulated why it was wrong.
This just in: Sensationalism is just articulation!
If you want to know what the Bonus Room is ACTUALLY about: http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:20:00 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote: Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says
"I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. "
So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved.
BBB
You forgot that it's pretty much guaranteed CCP saw the Bonus Room article on Miner Bumping ages ago. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:22:00 -
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Shizuken wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Shizuken wrote:His being a member of the CSM is a tangential issue. EVERY player is allowed to comment on the goings on of EvE. He didn't abuse any CSM authority in making a blog post about what he thought was reprehensible. Any one of us could have done the exact same thing
Who said anything about his position on the CSM? I was referring mainly to his blog and his influence over other players, though for a CSM member to be involved in such a spiteful personal campaign to try to get votes is just creepy. Ohh please! Stop with the BS already. My boots are only so high. Your contention here makes no sense. If you werent referring to his CSM status then he is still justified in speaking out on issues surrounding Eve. There is nothing wrong in bringing issues to light for open discussion. I think your real gripe, which you cant really argue without looking weak, is that there are more people out there than you thought that find this type of behavior unacceptable, and that for once on these forums we have been louder and more convincing than people like you.
Let's be clear. Nobody really has an issue with Ripard bringing the issue more attention. What people have a problem with is the fact his post was nothing but sensationalism at it's grandest. He deliberately blows the entire thing out of proportion. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:26:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Right but the property owners don't care. They have established what is acceptable and if an issue is raised they will judge the case given the existing evidence (the case) and the existing rules (the law).
Now I know the socipaths are going to be angry for a bit and I already see people saying they are going to petition every little thing.
Therefore let me offer my time and services to CCP in this thread in helping with petition reviews. I know that small minority is going to try to make themselves look like the entire player base with mouse clicks, so dumping their petitions may well be enjoyable knowing what kind of people are sending it.
Except they didn't establish was is acceptable. Because nobody knows what the issue was that made this unnacceptable.
And you're against an outspoken minority? Yet supported this? I think that's hypocrisy. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:28:00 -
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Bayonnefrog wrote:Kristalll wrote:Bayonnefrog wrote: Riot Girl, do not shift the blame away from Ero 1 and Co. THEY were the ones who created the mess they find themselves in now, not Ripard. He merely pointed out what happened and articulated why it was wrong.
This just in: Sensationalism is just articulation! If you want to know what the Bonus Room is ACTUALLY about: http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room And this is what the Ero 1 apologists fall back on if someone calls them on it. The fact is that Ripard described in detail and put into context what goes on in the Bonus Room, specifically the one with Sohkar in it, and how wrong it is.
So, you are SUPPORTING the idea that having someone sing on teamspeak is torture?
This has got to be a troll. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:39:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:Kristalll wrote: Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public.
I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for. I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread.
Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim". |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:40:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Moja Hinken wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd
So eve supports this and is in favor of outcomes like this one ^^??? Hell yeah time to dish out death like the grim reaper. except in real life you can't just "block" some one, like you can online. there are pretty much 0 parallels between her story, and what is being discussed here.
What? You mean Erotica 1 DIDN'T physically assault Sohkar?! |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:07:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:
Above all, lets keep it civil and constructive.
Thats sarcastic, right? OK, literally just started reading about this last night, what heppened? As far as Ive read, some stupid ass got scammed, then got scammed more... Um its EVE. I dont understand the issue
http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room
It has links to most of the relevant info as well as presents a LOT of info not covered elsewhere. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:11:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: Still, as my dad always used to say: if you're making stupid people angry, you're probably doing something right.
Best summary of the Bonus Round from anyone on the CSM yet. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:12:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Hell, I dont even get why this is NEWS Go read the 380 page threadzilla for starters. You dont know the subject enough that you can explain it on your own without posting to another thread for reference? Im cioming into this new and trying to see whats so important about ONE scam in a game about scamming
http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room my article on the matter. Covers everything. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:15:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players. Since Xuixien declined to answer when she similarly lambasted Ripard's blog, let's try this metaphorical question on you: So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or do you try to remove the splinter & infection?
Well, we all know you don't grab a chainsaw, soak it in alcohol, light it on fire and cut the splinter out!
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:18:00 -
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Liese Shardani wrote:voetius wrote:Bing Bangboom wrote: Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says
"I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. "
So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved.
BBB The problem with these sort of issues is that people will spin them whatever way suits their prejudices as seen in the recent threadnaught. In the case of the quote above, if CCP had stepped in and laid down the law then there could quite well have been more outrage for "interfering in the sandbox, blah blah". It's a no-win situation in many ways. Right, and some people have interpreted Sohkar's presence in TS last night as some kind of endorsement of what happened to him. I had a feeling they'd do that. Maybe they actually *have* learned something from this, but admitting it here...well, that might be a stretch, given the deeply entrenched positions. I was glad to see him on TS, but not for those reasons. The only knowledge most of us have of Sohkar is that ghastly two-hour meltdown, and I for one was relieved to see him not only unharmed but holding his own against the very people who put him through that. He didn't kiss their asses for one second, and I was smiling about that.
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Moja Hinken wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players. Yeah god forbid he raises awareness that this level of abuse is going on in the game. How dare him open one of the unseen doors that many of us have not seen. What a a hole for showing the community the type of low life sociopath scum who are attempting to run for CSM that have been abusing people most of who are not mentally stable to begin with behind the scenes for so long and getting away with it. I mean who does he think he is???
Can you stop trolling. We all know the complain is about his rhetoric and not "exposing" something. |
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