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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:27:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Vance Armistice wrote:You are being obtuse. Intentionally or not I have no idea. It has been a weird few days between the mayo revelations and all of the other headshakers forgive me if I seem skeptical.
Put plainly, you are asking a PLAYER rep who is on here to give us information to the best of his ability to answer complex hypothetical issues about rules. He is a player not a GM, thank him and move on. No, I'm asking a representative of the players who has spoken directly to CCP regarding this very matter to relay what he would consider their position to be. IF he does not know, it's his responsibility to say that and seek an answer from CCP. The players deserve to be given clear and concise ruling on matters where an infraction could cost them their ability to play. All I want is clarity. Is that so much to ask? Apparently, yes. They just want their free reign to ban for anything at any time. Dont CCP already have that though?
yes, which is exactly why further clarification in detail will never be forthcoming. If you set very clear guidelines it makes it easy to do something that might be wholly questionable or inappropriate but because it is not expressly forbidden by the ToS say "well I did nothing against your rules"
Thus to prevent those cases and to leave CCP holding all the cards they make a legalese statement that is somewhat open ended and gives them the freedom to do what ever floats their boat in dodgy situations without having to appear to have succumbed to outside pressure. It basically allows them to keep their reputation and integrity in tact whilst still being seen to police their own game in the eyes of the outsiders.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:07:00 -
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Vance Armistice wrote:Danalee wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
We now have a rule, don't push a 'victim" to the point of emotional distress... and that rule will be examined to see if it is applicable in each ticket they receive about an incident like this.
We now have a post from a CSM that says as much. NO RULE as of yet. We are also banning people who broke said "rule" before it was written by said CSM. Keep up, please. D.  Eve has consequences...don't go into the bonus room if you can't afford to lose...it...
but the bonus room wasn't part of EVE was it. The EVE part was already dealt with when the ISK was scammed using legal game tactics. The bonus room was about inflicting humiliation to publish publicly. If these sessions were never recorded and never published then we wouldn't be here having this threadnaught part 2.
If it was about EVE and in game gain why is there a need to publish recordings of taking someone to the edge and over unless it is for perverse *****'n'giggles or possible other darker motivations.
Thats why saying its all about EVE having consequences is a **** poor excuse to try and justify unacceptable behaviour. What happens in EVE stays in EVE and everyone is a happy camper. Start shitposting about how you got someone to go ballistic to the point where their wife is on comms trying to calm them down and then releasing it for your own mental masturbatory reasons stops being part of EVE and the game. If people can't see the difference here then they really are deranged. |
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Posted - 2014.03.29 00:36:00 -
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Jebediah Phoenix wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
The game he was playing, I thought Eve was about shooting space pixels, I didn't realise it also involved being humiliated and then having a recording of it all placed on the internet.
Must of missed that part on the advertising, need to ask CCP to make a promo vid.
We've already gone over this, he was scammed and then given the run around for a little in TS, it's no worse than a trash talk in local. Plenty of others went through the same thing and didn't react like a lunatic because they understood being scammed and wound up is a possibility.
so 2 hours of what was then a publicly published humiliation is "the run around for a little in TS" ???
what transpired today is a direct result of a group of people not knowing the difference between a game and taking things too far out of a game. The game ended once the scam was complete. everything else that followed was simply for some depraved people to get a spot of mental masturbatory pleasure. YOu can cut a shitsandwich 5 ways and the filling is still going to be ****. |
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Posted - 2014.03.29 00:55:00 -
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Lazrim wrote:I have no dog in this particular fight, but I have been playing this game off and on for about ten years. Mostly off due to RL time constraints, but I've still seen lots of things come and go.
From a fairly disinterested and jaundiced eye I will say in this episode that Ripard Teg et al. (bloggers etc.) are no different than Erotica 1. Both parties are creepy in their own particular way.
Erotica 1 used in game scams to facilitate a meta-game where he could cause RL anguish to fellow players.
Ripard Teg et al. used their blogs to facilitate (by manipulating CCP?) a meta-game where they could cause RL anguish to Erotica 1.
So, EVE is still EVE and all parties involved, in this episode, have much more in common than they may realize.
not at all. Ripard et al. used blogs to call out anti social / sociopathic behaviour by a group of people that had nothing to do with playing a game and everything to do with causing out of game pain. that was already in the public domain. H emay or may not have had an agenda, but there is no real comparison. I don't ever recall ripard asking E1 to smear mayonaise or peanut butter on his body and spell out his name.......................
Now that CCP have made their position clear all the gang bangers are crying tears of molten veldspar because they will get called out if they try to take things to far for their own perverse pleasures. This is a game and should be played as such. Draggin people to TS for a ritual humiliation for you to publish and get off to is not playing a game, its called being a ****. |
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