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Daxes
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:00:00 -
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the time that someone attacks BoB will come one day, only a question of time.
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Astasia Orian
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:01:00 -
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2...strip mine out EVERY system in delve. (if someone *actually* pulls this off I will be VERY impressed
Tried that, they didn't die.
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:05:00 -
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In terms of PvP ability, I would say D2 are at par with BOB..
But as we have seen, BOB alone can't kill D2, and D2 alone can't kill BOB.
Either side will need to form a coalition to actually be able to kill off the other side.
This also means a long boring war.. which I doubt that both sides will have the patience to fight through to completion. So its in there benefit to take on easier prey... ERA.. VOID.. ASCN... Huzzah... FIX
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Kujin
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:06:00 -
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3 reasons why BOB won¦t be beaten by anyone in the near future :
1.) they got the numbers.
2.) they got the dedication.
3.) they got Sirmolle and Bl..
I have to agree on the opnion here written by someone ( forgot to quote ) that BOB wil rather destroy themselves, then get destroyed by someone....
CCP should add a limit to cloning.. ( like maybe once a day or some like that ) then you could have the chance to hurt an alliance a lot more ....
*getting back to his cold beer
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kujin
3 reasons why BOB won¦t be beaten by anyone in the near future :
1.) they got the numbers.
2.) they got the dedication.
3.) they got Sirmolle and Bl..
I have to agree on the opnion here written by someone ( forgot to quote ) that BOB wil rather destroy themselves, then get destroyed by someone....
CCP should add a limit to cloning.. ( like maybe once a day or some like that ) then you could have the chance to hurt an alliance a lot more ....
*getting back to his cold beer
Limit to cloning?
Do you want PvP to become even less commonplace in Eve? Its dead enough as is.
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:10:00 -
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Edited by: Bexxly on 05/05/2006 13:09:58
Hypothetically a sympathetic Dev could delete every member of BoB's characters. Game over 
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Cassandra Striker
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
The only way to beat PVPers is to not give them PVP.
Wouldnt it be ironic if after all the talk about taking BOB on, actually not taking them on was the only true tactic?. boredom is a very powerfull weapon.
d solo.
Omg yes! Lets all stop playing the game, that will teach them!
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:18:00 -
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Bring massive fleets to bob will only make them happy because they like to pvp, that's what keeps them together. I think boring pvp tactics is the best way to lower their morale before you try taking their region.
With boring pvp I mean stuff like wcs fitted ravens with precision missiles that only go for support then run away. Smartbombing, cloaking battleship at diffeent gates within their region. Logg off inty gank squads in their money making systems with a cloaker online scanning, then when a target is found you logg on the gank squad. Or a sniping bs in a busy system with a covert. Basiclly tactics that makes it hard for them to kill you but will force them to try.
A combination of this for a few months might work but i doubt many would like to play the game like this. Destroying alliances is a overrated event anyway so I suggest you go with a big fleet to bob space and just enjoy the fights.
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Mark666
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:22:00 -
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POS war. Anchor 40 POS a day in their station systems. Generally avoid PvP on equal terms, make sure its only gank. Use lots of log on/off tactics to frustrate them. Keep it up for a few months and they'll get tired.
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Kujin
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Wizie
Originally by: Kujin
3 reasons why BOB won¦t be beaten by anyone in the near future :
1.) they got the numbers.
2.) they got the dedication.
3.) they got Sirmolle and Bl..
I have to agree on the opnion here written by someone ( forgot to quote ) that BOB wil rather destroy themselves, then get destroyed by someone....
CCP should add a limit to cloning.. ( like maybe once a day or some like that ) then you could have the chance to hurt an alliance a lot more ....
*getting back to his cold beer
Limit to cloning?
Do you want PvP to become even less commonplace in Eve? Its dead enough as is.
my fault.. i meant that if someone wants to destroy BOB , they should limit their cloning... then it might work killing them 
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:36:00 -
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Get the Jovians on your side unless BOB has already done that.
Quote:
All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us... they can't get away this time. - Lieutenant General Lewis B.'Chesty' Puller
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Calvin Pax
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:46:00 -
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I¦m sorry but I don¦t think guerilla warfare will work in this case !
Why ?? Because NO CEO alone will risk the impact this may have on his corp.
Say that u are on a successful guerilla campaign deep in BoB space wit say 10-15 pilots. After maybee 2 weeks of hit and run tactic and almost 100 kills the CEO¦s of BoB starts to notice you and what you are doing. Excactly in this moment you lose and commit your self and all that flyes with you to a boring life in Empire.
Because after a another ösuccessfulö week your ammo is running out so you decide to go home and resupply. So you head back home and start to approach your outpost.
Then you notice that the rader large sign that says WELCOME HOME BOYS and are lit with colorfull lamps (well the ceo is a little bith childish, you know that) and normally hangs on top of the hangardoors is missing.
When you get closer you see that smoke oozes from some of the windows and that someone has painted BoB was here with uggly big red letters on the side of the station. In panic you instead warp against your pos-factory at moon xx planet yy and when you get out off warp you find nothing !! The local starts to fill up with undocking BoB pilots so you leave the system for the next one while you contact your neighbors.
You know this nice alliance that you have a NAP with since 6 month back because they hate BoB as mutch as you do. The same alliance that assured you that they would come to your aid if you ever needed them and especially if the attacker was BoB. You find it hard to estabblish a contact with someone in charge, it¦s almost like they dont want to talk to you or is it even worse ? That they in fact neglect you ?
This question is answered a short time after when you start to recive reports from the other pilots in your gang that have seek refuge within the borders of your trusted allied. They are under attack, not from BoB pilots but you know who. The last raport that reach you within that system is that your pilots has spoted a huge ex-allied fleet that seems heading into your space. Then finally you get hold of a chairman in that (ex) alliance.
He sadly û of course- informs you that due to your recent act of trespassings into their space they now are forced to terminate the NAP and as a procotion for them self they now have to occupy your remaining 0.0 space and yes by the way they have a temporary NAP with BoB so long they are in the vicinity.
So was it worth it, your 10 sec in the spotlight of the EvE community after that you had wardec BoB ?
Unfortenetly the only way to get rid of BoB is to do excactly was Sel is saying. But this will never happend because there is no real will with the other large alliances to collaborate in this task. Because what if BoB attacks my alliance first and not theirs ?? No I wait in the shadow and move in later
so my alliance is safe
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Dracolich
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
The only way to beat PVPers is to not give them PVP.
Wouldnt it be ironic if after all the talk about taking BOB on, actually not taking them on was the only true tactic?. boredom is a very powerfull weapon.
d solo.
Think this is actually the best way to defeat bob, or the way of Seleene.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 05/05/2006 10:49:38
ASCN and D2 need to make up and be nice. SA and Huzzah and FIX need to quit shooting at each other. LV needs to quit mining. They all need to sit at a big round table and say,
"Hey, Robert is going to kill us all. We should kill him first. Jihad, dirka dirka!"
Then they do something rather amazingly odd - they actualy invade Delve and they fight until, oh.. I dunno... DB Preacher comes onto the forums and says they are beaten?
There. Plan made.
With this excellent plan, how much for MC to come in? 
President
Huzzah Federation
Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today! |
Nira Li
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:00:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Bexxly
Edited by: Bexxly on 05/05/2006 13:09:58
Hypothetically a sympathetic Dev could delete every member of BoB's characters. Game over
nah we would just use our alts in MC 
You Will Cry My Name
Funny Guys
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Thesper
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Thesper on 05/05/2006 14:03:02
I'm with ShinRa on this one. I play this game for SPACE WAR!, not for the actual defeat of the various political entities in EVE, cause lets face it, its not as if we have much difference in our ideologies or anything really.
If you're going to fight BoB, fight them because you want to fight, not because you want to 'bring them down' for whatever reason.
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Plutoinum
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 05/05/2006 14:21:03
Originally by: Thesper
I'm with ShinRa on this one. I play this game for SPACE WAR!, not for the actual defeat of the various political entities in EVE, cause lets face it, its not as if we have much difference in our ideologies or anything really.
If you're going to fight BoB, fight them because you want to fight, not because you want to 'bring them down' for whatever reason.
Besides having fun in pvp, I like the strategical side of the game and I can only do it, if people have long-term plans and want to win in a conflict. That's just my personal view.
And regarding guerilla warfare: It only works to scare carebears off, but you won't find many in BoB. So it would have no big impact.
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Evil's Dawn
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Evil''s Dawn on 05/05/2006 14:16:20
Originally by: Astasia Orian
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2...strip mine out EVERY system in delve. (if someone *actually* pulls this off I will be VERY impressed
Tried that, they didn't die.
Hush. Back in your barge. There's still some 1K bistot roids in Delve with your name on them.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Thesper
Edited by: Thesper on 05/05/2006 14:03:02
I'm with ShinRa on this one. I play this game for SPACE WAR!, not for the actual defeat of the various political entities in EVE, cause lets face it, its not as if we have much difference in our ideologies or anything really.
If you're going to fight BoB, fight them because you want to fight, not because you want to 'bring them down' for whatever reason.
Yeah must admit I'm in it for the space war too, for example even though FIX are the enemy I posted a standing offer on their boards that any corp ceasing hostilies would get a NAP and standings to get any of their stuff from the stations and that I would push for our allies to do the same.
At least one corp took us up on the offer of NAP and standings and it stands for FIX as a whole if hostilities end between us as people losing their stuff forever in stations is a nasty thing that I wouldn't want anyone to have happen to them.
President
Huzzah Federation
Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today! |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Naphtalia
Originally by: Seleene
DB Preacher comes onto the forums and says they are beaten?
Nah we all know that never happens, DBP will come to the forums and state that they are relocating somewhere else, that it was already planned and had nothing to do with the invasion.
Well, I was going to say "Blacklight quits drinking." but I figured I'd go for soemthing more realistic. 
Blacklight on IRON beating [G] in the Caldari Championships:
"If they win I'll give up drinking!"
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Creediki Starsong
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:52:00 -
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War fought with a coalition of independant states is allways the hardest.
That said.. the following team would be interesting to see.
D2 or ASCN as the Deep Pockets/Big Fleet.
Goonfleet as the funloving newcomers with a lot of people and not much room.
MC as Fleet Commanders, raiders.
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Mirasta
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mirasta on 05/05/2006 14:59:13
Edited by: Mirasta on 05/05/2006 14:58:55
Invade there system with a lone pilot... here comes the key....
Play All the spice girls albums 1 after the other for 3 whole weeks, if that dosent destroythem nothing will.
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Crucifier
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Posted - 2006.05.05 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mirasta
Edited by: Mirasta on 05/05/2006 14:59:13
Edited by: Mirasta on 05/05/2006 14:58:55
Invade there system with a lone pilot... here comes the key....
Play All the spice girls albums 1 after the other for 3 whole weeks, if that dosent destroythem nothing will.
That is so genious that it MUST work 
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Troubadour
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Posted - 2006.05.05 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Troubadour on 05/05/2006 15:41:36
All of these ideas have been tryed before. IMP has tryed bringing in large fleets at times when BOB was mostly asleep. Doesn't work. SA/ASCN have tryed gurrella warfare tactics with small groups, WCS, and EW and they get smacked down, just like how VC tryed to do the same thing before them. There have been a number of different corps that have tryed to move in and NPC when bob is not around and gank people when they are not there, they have all died miserably and eventually moved out of delve.
And the starving BoB of PvP won't work because most of them have industrial alts that they will mine/produce on in PvP downtime. And at a certain point BoB will just go out and start stuff for the sake of PvP if nobody comes to give it to them(aridia war, the erasing of all standings, etc etc).
It just doesn't work. While the BoB blobs are what make the news, what doesn't is the fact that they are also proficient in smaller group tactics and most of their fights take place on this scale. Chasing around groups of 6-7 people with 6-7 people and the like. If they don't kill you, you end up sitting at a safespot or in a station for hours/days.
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Dracolich
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Posted - 2006.05.05 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Blacklight on IRON beating [G] in the Caldari Championships:
"If they win I'll give up drinking!"
Did he keep his promise?
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.05.05 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
Blob their system and take their outpost.
Do you actually want to do that? I mean is winning what its really about or wouldn't you rather have a good old prolonged war, not too dissimilar to CA/SA.
Is it really that important to take their space? Far too many people have taken this whos map control thing way too seriously. Just fight.
For once I agree with junior!
Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |
Seleene
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Posted - 2006.05.05 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 05/05/2006 16:09:14
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
Blob their system and take their outpost.
Do you actually want to do that? I mean is winning what its really about or wouldn't you rather have a good old prolonged war, not too dissimilar to CA/SA.
Is it really that important to take their space? Far too many people have taken this whos map control thing way too seriously. Just fight.
For once I agree with junior!
He needs to stop making sense. 
Originally by: Mirasta
Invade there system with a lone pilot... here comes the key....
Play All the spice girls albums 1 after the other for 3 whole weeks, if that dosent destroythem nothing will.
n00b. Sugababes 4TW.
I've been waiting patiently for him to come and get it
I wonder if he knows that he can say it and I'm with it
I knew I had my mind made up from the very beginning
Catch this opportunity so you and me could feel it 'cos
If you're ready for me boy
You'd better push the button and let me know
Before I get the wrong idea and go
You're gonna miss the freak that I control
EDIT - I cleared an entire KAOS fleet out of thier home system with the above 'superweapon'.
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History of the MC movie! |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.05.05 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dracolich
Originally by: Dianabolic
Blacklight on IRON beating [G] in the Caldari Championships:
"If they win I'll give up drinking!"
Did he keep his promise?
No comment.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.05.05 16:13:00 -
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The only way to beat them is to not be afraid of them.
Im sick to death of hearing "But we can't fight BoB"
BoB come, Targets Flee, BoB conquer.
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Mr Flibble1
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Posted - 2006.05.05 16:17:00 -
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Bob are s**te, they are just using all this propoganda to make it look like they actually know what they are doing.
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