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Lido Seahawk
Norr Amalgamated Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:29:00 -
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If others would do some hard thinking, we wouldn't be needed!  |
Kaidu Kahn
POT Corp
Semper Ardens Alliance
49
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:43:00 -
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We would see more stuff like this
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
6147
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:49:00 -
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The funny thing about that (and other s acts of WoW related violence) is that it happened in the king of themepark/no griefing games, while this sandbox 'game of psychopaths' (EVE Online) has several peaceful yearly player gatherings and not one recorded instance of physical violence. |
Kaidu Kahn
POT Corp
Semper Ardens Alliance
49
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:54:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:The funny thing about that (and other s acts of WoW related violence) is that it happened in the king of themepark/no griefing games, while this sandbox 'game of psychopaths' (EVE Online) has several peaceful yearly player gatherings and not one recorded instance of physical violence.
Lol, Do drunken bar brawls at fanfest count?
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
White Mountain Coalition
1306
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:00:00 -
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Hevymetal wrote:With all the crazy laws being passed in various countries. What would the ramifications be if noone's real identity could remain hidden? Kinda like China already, but to a greater extent.
Would most Eve players remain sadistic psychos or would their attitudes and playstyles change? Would you still gank and pod that helpless miner knowing he could very well track you down in real life?
How much of a difference would it make in the Eve universe knowing (PlayerX) is really John Doe? How many players would continue to actually play? Would it mean the death of Eve as we know it or merely an evolution to a nicer universe?
It might be interesting but it wouldn't be a game that i'd like to play. Imagine the gankers out there that might wind up with real life death threats addressed to them personally at their home address. Not nice. I like eve but I am disturbed sometimes by the fact that a tiny minority of people cant separate the player from their character.
Ending internet anonymity might put an end to online role playing as well as allowing the emergence of online laws with real online consequences such as losing internet privileges for a month if you upset someone or dont tow the government's official party line.
I firmly believe that the internet has to remain free, open and anonymous because if you don't it will wind up becoming a technological socialist dictatorship colonized by money grabbing big businesses that will do everything that they can to keep you from making and posting content online whilst strong arming you into buying their authorized content.
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
White Mountain Coalition
1306
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:05:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:So funny. What if? The one I like is EVE's complexity. Woo hoo. If it's so complex,
how come it's the favorite haunt of the brain dead sociopathic among us who love:
Game of Thrones
Family Guy
Templars After Us! (eek)
Vampires
Zombies! (eek eek)
Yes, complex. Really. I can see it.
It's not the user interface that's complex it's the game and the manifold human interactions behind it.
I don't watch game of thrones
like family guys
know nothing about the Templars other than RL history snippets.
Vampires don't exist
Zombies might exist as drugged forced labourers in Haiti
Don't generalize. 99.9999999% of eve's players are not actually sociopaths. They are are just following and engaging in the game world in a way supported by it's rules, back-story and lore. Eve is dystopian as opposed to Utopian...
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
397
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:09:00 -
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A better world.
Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
Sibyyl
513
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:15:00 -
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I think it's a safety issue if your name is available and broadcast, especially if you would be easy to find IRL using that name. I tend to treat other people in EVE more or less how I treat them in my personal life (maybe I just lack imagination).. but I don't believe someone needs a negative reason (like.. he took all my ISK!!) to actually want to do something bad to you. People will do bad IRL things for a variety of reasons. |
Salvos Rhoska
1133
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:52:00 -
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I'm usually very big on internet transparency, and personal responsibility for online conduct.
But EVE gives me pause on that, because as others have outlined, it would impinge on the awox/scam side of things.
I suppose games should hopefully be kept separate from such legislation and afforded space for their own "ingame" personas.
Funny dilemma this, what this thread considers. I have quite some moral difficulty reconciling myself with the questions it raises.
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Winchester Steele
1058
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:22:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:So funny. What if? The one I like is EVE's complexity. Woo hoo. If it's so complex,
how come it's the favorite haunt of the brain dead sociopathic among us who love:
Game of Thrones
Family Guy
Templars After Us! (eek)
Vampires
Zombies! (eek eek)
Yes, complex. Really. I can see it.
What are you talking about? I don't like any of that crap you mentioned and I play Eve.
But anyhow, what do random TV shows and zombies (??) have to do with EvE Online?
What a bizarre post.
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Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1698
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:25:00 -
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Without "Internet Anonymity", about 2/3's of the "adult" entertainment would close up shop in a month... and the same would go for many gaming sites... because most of the assholes would suddenly realize "Oh, crap... ".
Which is to say alot of ISP companies would feel the pinch, too.
Don't really care one way or the other.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Salvos Rhoska
1135
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:30:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:Don't really care one way or the other.
What a predicament
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Plug in Baby
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
205
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:30:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:So funny. What if? The one I like is EVE's complexity. Woo hoo. If it's so complex,
how come it's the favorite haunt of the brain dead sociopathic among us who love:
Game of Thrones
Family Guy
Templars After Us! (eek)
Vampires
Zombies! (eek eek)
Yes, complex. Really. I can see it.
/tips fedora
This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main. |
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
Disturbed Acquaintance
7803
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:18:00 -
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I'd track down game of thrones haters and kick them in the shin. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3197
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:21:00 -
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For me, not much difference.
I think losing anonymity would create unnecessary problems for the community though.
Some people are internet spaceship crazy. Other people are just crazy.
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Webvan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1658
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:46:00 -
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A big tool in hacking is social engineering, getting to know who your target is, gaining knowledge in how to hack their accounts by the personal info they provide publicly. So if you think it'll be a better world because everyone knows exactly who you are beyond just a few trusted people, you're in for a rude awakening.
Just like when CCP had that ship design competition publicly blowing peoples anonymity, screw that! ...why a lot of 3d artists here didn't participate. But then it was less about this community and more about publicity, a reason in itself to say shove it. |
Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation
DemSal Unlimited
1082
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Posted - 2014.04.23 02:55:00 -
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You guys are aware of the fact that there is a small subset of us who do have our names out there. Anonymity was sacrificed for the purposes of the CSM Election
Total things that have happened to me because of this.
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Mike Azariah-á CSM8 |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1262
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:10:00 -
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Kaidu Kahn wrote:
Lol, Do drunken bar brawls at fanfest count?
Not unless someone looses an eye. |
Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1761
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Posted - 2014.05.04 21:33:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:You guys are aware of the fact that there is a small subset of us who do have our names out there. Anonymity was sacrificed for the purposes of the CSM Election
Total things that have happened to me because of this.
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Aware, yes.
Also aware that bad things do sometimes happen to people on the internet, anonymity or not. And to be clear, I am referring to the InterNet as a whole and not just one subset.
Such is the world we live in, online and off.
"HTFU ! " -á--- -áKatee Sackhoff, aka "The F-Bomb Queen of EVE" ! !-á
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
1420
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Posted - 2014.05.04 21:37:00 -
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I love a bit of thread necro (not real necro though...that's just weird).
I wouldn't be any different if I was using my real name. I might be a little bit more outspoken on some things on the forum perhaps, but in game, no different to how I am now.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
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Dominus Tempus
Forced Euthanasia
16
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Posted - 2014.05.04 21:46:00 -
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Eve without internet anonymity?
"Fight me irl" |
Penguinizer Illat
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.05.04 21:49:00 -
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Dominus Tempus wrote:Eve without internet anonymity?
"Fight me irl"
Eh, I doubt it'd be that noticeable. I've spent a lot of time getting shot at by CVA, Goons and whoever. At fanfest we were still just chatting like it was nothing. It's just a game, most people are smart enough to not take it too far. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
3909
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Posted - 2014.05.04 21:52:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Nuela wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Accountability and social pressure are huge forces in shaping personal behavior. I would be tempted to go trash a gankers car if they lived nearby....you know...for the lulz. :) :P I could also make sure that anyone I hire for my department are not Goons. You may think this is a long shot but I found out I almost hired a Goon last year! (he was hired by someone I know and found this out over beers in a pub) Good thing I found out and nixed that! :) :P Remember guys, the gankers are the ones who are supposed to be the bad people. 
I believe that it would be discrimination not to employ someone based on what faction they align with in a video game
"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
Independent Faction
429
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Posted - 2014.05.04 21:53:00 -
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I think that behaviors would change fast, People like to bring up Facebook in this discussion, but they leave out that all that crap on face book? Ends up that it frequently has real world consequences and people are starting to wise up to that.
I will say that Ragnarok Online, which is the only game I can think of off the top of my head that is not a facebook game but has your personal info attached, has some of the most helpful, polite gamers I've ever had the pleasure of playing alongside.
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I believe that it would be discrimination not to employ someone based on what faction they align with in a video game
Not under the law. Race, religion,etc, sure. Guild/clan/corp affiliations are not. And yes, I do ask at interviews 'Have you ever flown for Goonswarm'?. |
Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
1606
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:05:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:You guys are aware of the fact that there is a small subset of us who do have our names out there. Anonymity was sacrificed for the purposes of the CSM Election
Total things that have happened to me because of this.
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Good for you, I have received racial abuse (in game) from an ******* who got a hold of my real life identity.
Had people get hold of pictures of me twice and try to use them to harass me in game.
I am super thick skinned and very secure in myself so never even so much as bothered to report these losers but lets not pretend that this stuff doesn't happen in this game. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2805
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:25:00 -
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I would not play EVE without anonymity.
99% of people would leave in-game defeats in-game. But that 1% - go ganking for a while, and you will see what they are like. One example: the minerbumping site had one article the other day showing an EVEmail where one person said "I would beat you bloody in real life if I could find you".
Only one person in game knows my IRL identity, and they knew me before either of us played EVE, they aren't traceable to me and we don't really interact much in game at all. (Although I do get the odd market tip from them).
Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
1426
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:54:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Only one person in game knows my IRL identity, .....
Yes but your parole officer doesn't count, you internet ganker you. Must be a real life criminal....
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Sibyyl
662
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:14:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:You guys are aware of the fact that there is a small subset of us who do have our names out there. Anonymity was sacrificed for the purposes of the CSM Election
Total things that have happened to me because of this.
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A person I wasn't friends with on Facebook (but an online friend of a friend of a friend) decided one day to drive down a couple of states, break into my house, and wait for me there. He was able to locate me because though my first and last name are common on their own, they are unique when paired together. Not sure how he got my address but I was pretty active with a few groups at my Uni who maintained mailing lists and similar information that was likely not locked down from public access.
It's good that nothing happened to you, but I hope you are sensitive to and can appreciate the importance of privacy.
I was pretty flippant about it too, until something happened to me.
Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention
Psychotic Monk joins BNI |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5748
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:23:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Mike Azariah wrote:You guys are aware of the fact that there is a small subset of us who do have our names out there. Anonymity was sacrificed for the purposes of the CSM Election
Total things that have happened to me because of this.
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m A person I wasn't friends with on Facebook (but an online friend of a friend of a friend) decided one day to drive down a couple of states, break into my house, and wait for me there. He was able to locate me because though my first and last name are common on their own, they are unique when paired together. Not sure how he got my address but I was pretty active with a few groups at my Uni who maintained mailing lists and similar information that was likely not locked down from public access. It's good that nothing happened to you, but I hope you are sensitive to and can appreciate the importance of privacy. I was pretty flippant about it too, until something happened to me.
My circumstance was similar. However my last name is shared by about 36 people in the entire country, so I'm pretty easy to find. It's why I post on an alt now, never share alt killmails, and have more or less given my main up to skill training, thanks to the info being out there attached to that character now.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3170
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:27:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
I believe that it would be discrimination not to employ someone based on what faction they align with in a video game
Not under the law. Race, religion,etc, sure. Guild/clan/corp affiliations are not. And yes, I do ask at interviews 'Have you ever flown for Goonswarm'?.
prejudice is prejudice. and i assume that's a joke |
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