Who or what is the New Order?

So even if i mind my own business and ant away, avoiding combat, someone will come by and shoot at me for it? WTF?

I really have no interest in PvP, so what exactly is there for me to do if i don't want to stick to high sec space all the time?

We are a highsec extortion racket. My signature has a link to our website.

We target passive ISK generation such as AFK mining. If you mine at the keyboard and pay attention (and watch your directional scanner for obvious signs of danger), you are pretty safe from our tactics.

Who or what is the New Order?

So even if i mind my own business and ant away, avoiding combat, someone will come by and shoot at me for it? WTF?

Well that is just a complete pile of... I might as well quit the game with people like that around.

That brings me to a new question.

How do i reverse my PLEX, so i can quit the game?

Well that is just a complete pile of... I might as well quit the game with people like that around.

Well that is just a complete pile of... I might as well quit the game with people like that around.

There is always the potential for some form of conflict in eve. Even trading is a form of pvp e.g. market pvp. But if you open the map you will see that there are many areas which are very quite. Even in null sec there are very quite areas and you have the benefit of intel networks. If you move to a quite area and mind your own business the chances of pvp happening are relatively small. Ofc by being pvp adverse, you are cutting yourself off from the best part of the game.

There is always the potential for some form of conflict in eve. Even trading is a form of pvp e.g. market pvp. But if you open the map you will see that there are many areas which are very quite. Even in null sec there are very quite areas and you have the benefit of intel networks. If you move to a quite area and mind your own business the chances of pvp happening are relatively small. Ofc by being pvp adverse, you are cutting yourself off from the best part of the game.

EVE was pitched as "do what you like".

I'd like to mine to buy myself a nice ship, possibly go explore and kill an NPC rat here or there.

With people of unmentionable adjectives about, like that order nonsense, that puts a big wet turd on the whole thing.

Unfortunately my PLEX doesn't run out for another 60 days and that's it for me and my EVE experience. I can't say it was fun since all of my work and avoiding other people's childish antics is for naught. So i might as well quit.

Although EVE can be a cruel and harsh place, there are equal if not more countermeasures available to make life pretty easy and safe-ish

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Well that's it for me. I quit. Thanks to nonsense like this order iv'e just been introduced to.
Im basically told to go into exile where they can't be bothered to troll you.
Thank you for ruining one more thing that might have been a relief from the drudgery of day to day life

Goodbye.

Being reckless?!

You mean by going to my local asteroid field which is just a quick warp from the capitol, going out of my way to be out of other's way and earning enough breadcrums to buy a little ship that makes me happy?

Im sorry, but that is the biggest pile of assholing iv'e ever heard of.

Bla bla bla bla bla, i like being an *******.

Being reckless?!

You mean by going to my local asteroid field which is just a quick warp from the capitol, going out of my way to be out of other's way and earning enough breadcrums to buy a little ship that makes me happy?

Im sorry, but that is the biggest pile of assholing iv'e ever heard of.

Some people would like to play this as an elaborate screensaver. Something that's nice to look at and makes nice background noises. But no, we can't have that. We need twats that go around with some stupid creed, trolling for the sake of it.

**** this, im out of here. Seriously.

No offense, but why if you are not going to actively play the game, waste the money on a subscription. That just doesn't sound logically. Then again, I pay $15 / month for couple of chat channels, so I won't judge.

My last 'reckless' loss was running missions when I had a public killright against me (i.e. someone had the right to get revenge against me, and they had made that available to the public, and I wasn't careful enough).

Even then - flying around in a 300 million ISK ship with a sign on me saying "You can legally shoot this player if you pay 10m ISK first AND I have a big bounty" it was quite a while before anyone attacked me.

Because my happiness and free time is worth more to me than my money.

I always knew i'd be put in the same player pool as angry teenagers who want to vent their frustrations on others from the safety of their bedrooms. But part of me figured that if i go out of my way to stay out of everyone else's way, i'd be free to relax and pretend im a space captain with a nice ship and pretend im exploring...

But no. We can't have that. Even in an economy based game where the resources replenish every 24h so there is practically an infinite amount of money going round, no inflation, no devaluing, where everyone would and could go about without stepping on someone's toes. There HAS to be a group of twats who go about attacking people who are no obstacle to them and no reason than "i can attack you so i will".

That ruins everything and is no excuse. And since my happiness and free time is worth to me more than my money, EVE suddenly has no value to me anymore.

Thanks to idiots like this new order bullcrap.

Being reckless?!

You mean by going to my local asteroid field which is just a quick warp from the capitol, going out of my way to be out of other's way and earning enough breadcrums to buy a little ship that makes me happy?

Im sorry, but that is the biggest pile of assholing iv'e ever heard of.

Some people would like to play this as an elaborate screensaver. Something that's nice to look at and makes nice background noises. But no, we can't have that. We need twats that go around with some stupid creed, trolling for the sake of it.

**** this, im out of here. Seriously.

I have no interest in fighting some kid with anger issues in a game where it's not necessary. I put my health and life on the line IRL, carrying a gun and a badge. The last thing i want when i get home after a 12 hour shift is to log on to what should be relaxation, only to be jumped by some **** who does it just because he can and no other good reason.

If you think you can just turn on your mining lasers and go take a nap, however, expect PvP to come to you while you are sleeping.

I have a mindset of "Every ship I ever fly is a consumable". With this mindset EVE is fun. Without it, it's a frustrating experience.

Why am i still here? I guess out of sheer amazement of how low people can sink when there is nobody there to govern them.
As a social experiment, EVE sure makes the worst in people come through.

Quoting for truth.


Any ship I buy from the market is already considered a wreck and a loss on my killboard.

If a ship does not match that criteria, I'm not buying it as I shouldn't be flying it.

Why am i still here? I guess out of sheer amazement of how low people can sink when there is nobody there to govern them.
As a social experiment, EVE sure makes the worst in people come through.

Chess brings out worse. When I play chess, I go around murdering priests, slaughtering pawns and committing regicide.


Rereading this entire thread and seeing the language used in the posts, I'm now 90% convinced that the OP isn't a new player but is in fact a newly-created alt of an established player either trolling or pushing an undisclosed agenda. There's too much EVE knowledge in there for the OP to be a few hours into the game.

Well played, OP. Good fight, you got me. I believed you.

Wow, this was a fun read. I cannot understand how someone can get so worked up over space pixels and the inability to adapt.

Who or what is the New Order?

So even if i mind my own business and ant away, avoiding combat, someone will come by and shoot at me for it? WTF?

angry teenagers who want to vent their frustrations on others from the safety of their bedrooms.

I really have no interest in PvP

EVE was pitched as "do what you like".

For no other reason than because we can. Right.

Well too late for your scavenging, all of my resources are now in the empty void where abandoned characters go, along with the deleted files on my hard drive.

Why am i still here? I guess out of sheer amazement of how low people can sink when there is nobody there to govern them.
As a social experiment, EVE sure makes the worst in people come through.

EVE was pitched as "do what you like".

I'd like to mine to buy myself a nice ship, possibly go explore and kill an NPC rat here or there.

With people of unmentionable adjectives about, like that order nonsense, that puts a big wet turd on the whole thing.

Unfortunately my PLEX doesn't run out for another 60 days and that's it for me and my EVE experience. I can't say it was fun since all of my work and avoiding other people's childish antics is for naught. So i might as well quit.

EVE was pitched as "do what you like".

I'd like to mine to buy myself a nice ship, possibly go explore and kill an NPC rat here or there.

With people of unmentionable adjectives about, like that order nonsense, that puts a big wet turd on the whole thing.

Unfortunately my PLEX doesn't run out for another 60 days and that's it for me and my EVE experience. I can't say it was fun since all of my work and avoiding other people's childish antics is for naught. So i might as well quit.

Wow I normally visit these areas for some refreshment, to help.. but here.. this guy... can we frame this as the definition of a carebear?

EVE was pitched as "do what you like".

I'd like to mine to buy myself a nice ship, possibly go explore and kill an NPC rat here or there.

With people of unmentionable adjectives about, like that order nonsense, that puts a big wet turd on the whole thing.

Unfortunately my PLEX doesn't run out for another 60 days and that's it for me and my EVE experience. I can't say it was fun since all of my work and avoiding other people's childish antics is for naught. So i might as well quit.

So iv'e been playing for about 2 months now.

Yet everything somehow seems to end with fighting.

I really have no interest in PvP

So what exactly is there for me to do if i don't want to stick to high sec space all the time?

Good stuff. I expect that also means you know my final advice is not an insult


Yeah. Awesome game this EVE


I do. Others too. You play with others. You know this.


The exact same thing as in high sec just to begin with. Just more "intense", more interaction, more MMO-like.

Others dont need to mess up your day by attacking you. The best way to make that happen is by accepting the possibility of it. Cos that allows you to deal with it. Both mentally as ingame. You can actively avoid being attacked. As a matter of fact, its easier to do that OUTSIDE h-sec. Where you can see them coming.

So my advice: HTFU

Welcome to EVE m8

I feel you may benefit from some kind of psychiatric help. You say you carry a gun and yet keep referring to wanting to rip out peoples throats etc. You hint you are a cop and yet you say Eve brings out the worst in people. Seriously? I take it you have never been to a murder or a ****. THEY show the worst in people. Eve is a game for God sake.

I worry about you and anyone you encounter as you are a loose cannon ready to blow.

And Sabriz, I'd buy you a beer too .

I think part of the problem is that when you first start EVE there is an illusion of save PVE. It took me a LOT of reading and a LOT of questions to realize just how dangerous even HighSec can be. If a person jumped into EVE because they thought it was a really in-depth space sim, and didn't look past the surface, I can see how they'd be VERY surprised when the true nature of the game was fully realized.

In the case of the OP, it seem pretty clear to me that he'd been enjoying himself for some time, and was fortunate enough to get away with a fairly lackadaisical approach for far too long. He become emotionally invested in a certain playstyle. Then the rug got pulled out from under him. Or rather, the blinders removed from his eyes.

I think the saddest part is that he didn't actually suffer any losses. It was the IMAGINED losses and the threat of POSSIBLE attacks that had him the most bent out of shape. He wasn't even willing to consider that changing his view of the game might result in enjoyment.

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One of the most interesting things is that during my own research of how the game works, I've discovered that there's all kinds of ways to make it hard for suicide gankers to get you. Even something as simple as using a mission room cleared of rats to mine in. Not to mention wormhole space, or joining a corp that has a pretty secure lock on a part of nullsec where you could do your thing in relative peace.

To each his own, I guess.

We are a highsec extortion racket.

I really have no interest in PvP, so what exactly is there for me to do if i don't want to stick to high sec space all the time?

I really have no interest in PvP, so what exactly is there for me to do if i don't want to stick to high sec space all the time?

I really doubt the OP still reads the forums.

He wasn't obviously the "right type" of gamer for the game and blamed the game on his leaving.
All I wonder, why did it take him 2 months to find that out.

Replacing your ship is like a repair bill in WoW. It's not that big, but you have to, however, be careful as to not to see the losses accumulate into big sums.

Perhaps, but other newbies might read this thread, so we'll stick to it :)

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While I would not go thanking the people who tried to harm us, I would say I would have never ventured into low and null and discovered how things are over there without being forced to leave. its a big leap for someone just months old, but not impossible. Learn and adapt, and soon you can do whatever you want.
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Now, let me offer you a piece of flint and tinder.

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Chess brings out worse. When I play chess, I go around murdering priests, slaughtering pawns and committing regicide.


Rereading this entire thread and seeing the language used in the posts, I'm now 90% convinced that the OP isn't a new player but is in fact a newly-created alt of an established player either trolling or pushing an undisclosed agenda. There's too much EVE knowledge in there for the OP to be a few hours into the game.

Well played, OP. Good fight, you got me. I believed you.



Edit: If I'm wrong, I apologize.

Who or what is the New Order?

So even if i mind my own business and ant away, avoiding combat, someone will come by and shoot at me for it? WTF?

So iv'e been playing for about 2 months now. Making my share of ISK and building ships.
I have been pondering about what to do more focused. Mining, exploring, trading, etc.
Yet everything somehow seems to end with fighting.

If you want to go mine more interesting things, you get attacked.
If you go exploring, you get attacked.
If you run cargo or trade, you get attacked.

I really have no interest in PvP, so what exactly is there for me to do if i don't want to stick to high sec space all the time?

Thank you for ruining something that kept me one more step from actively stabbing someone with a pen to the throat out of frustration IRL.

EVE was pitched as "do what you like".

EVE was pitched wrong. EVE is: You can try to do what you like. Just because you try to do something, doesn't mean you're entitled to success. In EVE, the challenges you face almost always come from other players, hence why it's a PvP game and anyone that plays it needs to either embrace it, or play in a way they don't fall victim to it.

Seriously, though:

There's competition all over the place; it's a sad fact in EVE.

If a person jumped into EVE because they thought it was a really in-depth space sim, and didn't look past the surface, I can see how they'd be VERY surprised when the true nature of the game was fully realized.

For no other reason than because we can. Right.

Well too late for your scavenging, all of my resources are now in the empty void where abandoned characters go, along with the deleted files on my hard drive.

Why am i still here? I guess out of sheer amazement of how low people can sink when there is nobody there to govern them.
As a social experiment, EVE sure makes the worst in people come through.