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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2608
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Posted - 2014.04.03 06:22:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Fred is playing a multiplayer FPS, and his gf calls out to him from the other room asking for help with something. "Can't you wait a bit, I'm in the middle of..." He turns his head to see her standing in the doorway completely starkers. "... err... next death ok?  " Whereupon he gets killed by little Johnny who immediately sees that Fred has disconnected, and types in chat, "OMG QQ LOL I MAED THAT N00B RAGEQUIT"
I've actually lost a spaceship or two due to situations like this. |
Salvos Rhoska
970
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Posted - 2014.04.03 06:33:00 -
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Have you never been mad?
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics
CODE.
1628
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Posted - 2014.04.03 06:35:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:My diagnosis, Mr. Ragequit, left because he felt he was entitled to something without having to put in the required effort and when he found out he couldn't just get what he wanted and had to work for what he wanted he quit Agree with pretty much all of your post. But just on that bit - the amount of "effort" any of us apply to a game is subjective. We all have different amounts of time we're able to invest, money we'll spend on the game, support within the game, etc. While one person who rage quits may well be an "entitled brat" style of player it's just as likely the next will be someone who's gone to enormous "effort" over time then sees it all go up in smoke in a flash - or gradually destroyed in a series of morale squishing blows. Either of those players are really just exhibiting quite normal traits to be expected of normal people, and most likely not influenced by some mental disorder or emotional problem, contrary to some previous poster's opinions. But then again mental illness IS enormously common (something like 1 in 3 people?) so I'm sure a few of those have "rage" quit over time too.  Interestingly enough, I find Eve excellent therapy for the mental illnesses I have been diagnosed with. It's complexity keeps my mind occupied, which is a very good thing.
Same here. I mentioned in another thread, Eve lets me burn out assorted "issues" I have in a controlled environment.
The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Webvan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
344
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Posted - 2014.04.03 06:39:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
Picture in your mind if you will, Barney the Dinosaur.
[insert hostility here]
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2014.04.03 06:46:00 -
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Feeling the activity being engaged in is not providing a compelling reason to want to continue experiencing it.
It's a computer.
Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
100
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Posted - 2014.04.03 08:31:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
As someone who had a single seminar about psychology during his second semester at university, I'll give you my professional opinion:
Nothing goes on in their brain, they're simply stupid and far too highstrung.
Since this question is now 100% answered, the thread is finished and can be closed, thank you. |
Yarda Black
Epidemic.
Nulli Secunda
93
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Posted - 2014.04.03 08:53:00 -
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I cant tell you what goes on in the brain. Neurons firing as mentioned, in a certain area mostly. That's about it.
I play browsergames where I'm regularly threatened for defeating people. Now you'll probably understand that games like that have a high number of minors in them. Which are people who are by far the most emotional and easily influenced. Getting ragequits from a minor is like stealing cookies from a baby. Why people under the age of 20 are allowed to even speak is sometimes beyond me.
But I've seen my share of "adult" kids so... I'll deal with the majority :)
What I think happens with behavior is frustration about not getting what you want. A certain need is not, or no longer met. A "loss" is most definitely a need that's no longer met. EVE tends to throw losses at you on a regular basis.
The number of ways to deal with it plays a big role. The unpleasant feeling has to be removed, but how?
I think emotional people, pressed against the wall and without being experienced enough to come up with alternatives, will be most likely to ragequit.
I also think ANYONE can be pushed into ragequitting. You ever played monopoly? Watch the guy that lands on the last square before "start" when you just planted a hotel there.
For the record; I'm against griefing. If mommy isnt giving you enough cookies, then others should not be suffering from that. Be a man and take on the one responsible for your misery. Go grief your mom.
Now... I'm off reading the articles about this linked earlier |
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1213
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Posted - 2014.04.03 09:02:00 -
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Enlightenment... it's what happens when someone realize quitting is the only way to break the sunk cost fallacy, it is to continue playing this ****** game.
The rage comes from the realization, of the amount of time wasted.
I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1232
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:02:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:I think emotional people, pressed against the wall and without being experienced enough to come up with alternatives, will be most likely to ragequit.
Interesting point. Being "pressed against the wall" sucks for anyone really. Even if the alternatives are apparent they might not be available at the time. I've had situations in which logging off simply caused the least amount of negative stress, and staying online would not have made a significant difference to the situations outcome anyway. Rage doesn't come into play for me really, but fatalism does. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2656
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:48:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit? You essentially break the Skinner Box, i.e. no ship == no lever to press. Which can be really, really, really, I mean it, really disruptive in people reliant on lever pushing. That's why I bought several hundred CrackerJack boxes one day. In case of "lever failure," I pop open a crackerjack box and find solace and comfort at "winning" the prize inside. Wait, how is that not insanity?
Because he actually gets a prize. It is operant conditioning at its finest.
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seth Hendar
I love you miners
514
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:02:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Fred is playing a multiplayer FPS, and his gf calls out to him from the other room asking for help with something. "Can't you wait a bit, I'm in the middle of..." He turns his head to see her standing in the doorway completely starkers. "... err... next death ok? " Whereupon he gets killed by little Johnny who immediately sees that Fred has disconnected, and types in chat, "OMG QQ LOL I MAED THAT N00B RAGEQUIT"
well, n00b is partly right, something was actually raging.... |
stoicfaux
4384
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:05:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Fred is playing a multiplayer FPS, and his gf calls out to him from the other room asking for help with something. "Can't you wait a bit, I'm in the middle of..." He turns his head to see her standing in the doorway completely starkers. "... err... next death ok? " Whereupon he gets killed by little Johnny who immediately sees that Fred has disconnected, and types in chat, "OMG QQ LOL I MAED THAT N00B RAGEQUIT"
So everyone gets a happy ending of one variety or another...
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Lachra
Union of Labor
53
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:10:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
The brain starts to swell and pushes against the boundary of the skull, this causes several physiological effects.
The lips are drawn back & the teeth exposed in a feral snarl, the eyes bulge.
An excessive amount of salivation is produced in a steady foam, bubbling from the corners of the mouth.
The cheeks and face flush from red to purple, veins swell and bulge in the temples & the forehead.
A primal, resounding bellow issues forth from the mouth, rising to a shrill screech.
Then you quit. |
Anslo
Scope Works
4697
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:11:00 -
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Lachra wrote:[quote=Jordan Kandou Worley]Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
The brain starts to swell and pushes against the boundary of the skull, this causes several physiological effects.
The lips are drawn back
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4642
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Posted - 2014.04.03 19:28:00 -
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Speaking of rage quits, I must share the tale of one that occurred right in front of me.
Back when I was married one of the ex's kids was playing eve in the same room as me. He wanted to do a mission, so I find him and we do a mission. Not enough excitement I guess, so he decides to duel with me.
This was in 2006. Before dueling.
In highsec.
So his ship, a cyclone he spent lots of ISK on, got blown up. It happened right when I was saying "I don't think you can..do...tha"
He was upset enough to pour tears all over local about it. And in response to that, some 2003 player give him enough ISK for 2 ships, making that point that it's only ISK and when a day comes you have lots of it, losing a ship is nothing to cry (in local) about.
So, he assembles the ship and starts buying modules and such and then undocks to go get them...
within the aggression timer which may have had a minute or two left on it.
The outcome, as you can expect, was that he was concorded again.
The next day he has another ship and decides to move all his stuff. I don't recall the reason why he was trying to move everything but it had something to do with the corp he joined. He was too new to be moving IMO but that's that.
So he was on autopilot. There was no WTZ back then, but there was a counter to the problem of it (fit AB/Tank/ or BM).
He was on autopilot and jumped into Amamake. In his "last" ship he had ISK for, with all of his stuff.
Be advised that this was a 16 year old with a lot of "leet" gaming creds. You name it he played it, single player or MMO, and mastered them all.
He was actually jumping up and down screaming "That's it! I'm not playing this game any more!".
He mad, bro.
And I got all his stuff - well... what was left.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
738
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Posted - 2014.04.03 19:36:00 -
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I ragequit just the other day.
I was ratting in an Ishtar and walked away from the computer for a few mins.
Came back and an interceptor had me tackled. I overheated my afterburner and put out my ECM drones. I targetted the interceptor and put my drones on him. At this point another interceptor showed up. Right as I start to target the 2nd interceptor I get jammed by 1 cruiser Guristas rat. He then jams me 9 consecutive times in a row @ 150 KM away or further.
So I lose an ishtar and when you lose your ship the item you had selected drops off your selected item sometimes and the time it takes me to pick another celestial and warp off I get pointed and lose my pod.
I don't care about losing an ishtar its not a big deal.
What made me ragequit was the stupid rat jamming me that far away that many times in a row then a stupid bug that made me lose my pod.
I petitioned it and got the typical working as intended reply.
Took a few days off EVE and played RL and other games.
Stupid mechanics and stupid bugs is what makes this game lame.
Not today spaghetti. |
Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
100
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Posted - 2014.04.03 19:48:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:I ragequit just the other day.
I was ratting in an Ishtar and walked away from the computer for a few mins.
Came back and an interceptor had me tackled. I overheated my afterburner and put out my ECM drones. I targetted the interceptor and put my drones on him. At this point another interceptor showed up. Right as I start to target the 2nd interceptor I get jammed by 1 cruiser Guristas rat. He then jams me 9 consecutive times in a row @ 150 KM away or further.
So I lose an ishtar and when you lose your ship the item you had selected drops off your selected item sometimes and the time it takes me to pick another celestial and warp off I get pointed and lose my pod.
I don't care about losing an ishtar its not a big deal.
What made me ragequit was the stupid rat jamming me that far away that many times in a row then a stupid bug that made me lose my pod.
I petitioned it and got the typical working as intended reply.
Took a few days off EVE and played RL and other games.
Stupid mechanics and stupid bugs is what makes this game lame.
Exhibit A for the differences in human beings: If something like this happened to me, I would be laughing so hard I would drop from my computer. On plucky rat saves two player-controlled interceptors. That's great!  |
Volar Kang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2014.04.03 19:51:00 -
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Why come to an internet spaceship forum and ask for a lesson in psychology?
To add my 2 cents... I think sometimes we are mad at ourselves when we do something really stupid. One time in null a guy was ratting with a carrier and got jumped by a big gang of frigates. I was ratting when he called for help in corp chat. Like a complete and utter idiot I warped to zero on him, aggro-ed the mobs onto myself and became a sitting duck for the frig gang. In the end I lost my ratting raven but provided enough distraction for the carrier to rep and hold out a bit longer for more organized help which arrived and saved him. I didnt rage as I'm a bit too old for a game to make me rage but I did want to smack my keyboard into my face a bit over being so stupid to warp to zero in a missle-boat against frigs.
I think some people rage over being stupid and dont want to admit to being stupid enough to fall for scams or traps so they cloud the issue with reasons why the other guy had an advantage or why the game mechanics are unfair.
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Muestereate
Minions LLC
277
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:02:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
Personal growth?
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Serene Repose
1220
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:08:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit? You want this on the synapse firing, or the motivational, stimuli/response level?
Rage quitting is like kicking your dog. You get to vent with someone there to see how truly powerful you are, but in the process you drive true affection away from yourself. However, kick MY dog and you get to see how life is on one leg.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries
382
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:51:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Fred is playing a multiplayer FPS, and his gf calls out to him from the other room asking for help with something. "Can't you wait a bit, I'm in the middle of..." He turns his head to see her standing in the doorway completely starkers. "... err... next death ok? " Whereupon he gets killed by little Johnny who immediately sees that Fred has disconnected, and types in chat, "OMG QQ LOL I MAED THAT N00B RAGEQUIT"
Sounds accurate.
New player resources:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information
http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP
http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Balshem Rozenzweig
Akademia Milicyjna
The North is Coming
37
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Posted - 2014.04.04 06:46:00 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit? As someone who had a single seminar about psychology during his second semester at university, I'll give you my professional opinion: Nothing goes on in their brain, they're simply stupid and far too highstrung. Since this question is now 100% answered, the thread is finished and can be closed, thank you.
I would go with this. Only changed it to "they are being stupid and far too highstrung". I raged in WoW sometimes (only 1 rage included outward profanity to other players) and realized it comes from very simple things.
You invest into the game heavily, you do repetitive things you don't acctualy enjoy but you know it needs to be done cause this is how the game works. Then, when someone screws you up, either when you are "working" or "having good time" you get a sudden surge of irritation.
People expect results, and at one point the expectation is so strongly founded that they act irrationally when something goes wrong. "Being stupid"s
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