Every new ship you release furthers my disappointment. Who wants a rusty looking paint job on a ship? That's not what players had in mind, from all the picture posts and renders of custom ships and hell even ones I did, making it a rustic looking orange spatter is not what people had in mind. Painting your ship should be about you showing it off, showing a uniqueness, and making it look badass with several customizable skin options, none of this prefab paint job nonsense. They downright are ugly, or so dark its very un-distinguishable unless you are close up. CCP would it be so hard to take players advice as is for once instead of taking the idea and attempting to put just your own spin on the idea. You have these discussion forums up for a reason, use their advice as is.

if we gave the players the chance to paint their own ships, all we would have is **** colored thoraxes and pink caracals. Is that really want you want OP? Dickthaxes and vaginacals?

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Lets be honest.

The answer is

of course.

In a flat second

As already stated, the ship painting/skins are a pilot program. You do know what the definition of 'pilot program' is right?

Its business speak for alpha test.

Essentually, they looked at used ships and decided to pick a few and see if players are even remotely interested in skins. If they have a few ships and crappy skins but player buy and use them and the crappy mechanic, then the guy in charge can take the numbers to the big wigs at CCP and go 'look, we wanted to hit a goal of xxx sold, we hit yyy! The players want this, even in this design, so can we have money to actually make it work? And based on our projections this will give ccp XXX profit.." Then the big wigs go "do it" or "no no money, wait longer" or "no scrap the entire idea"

This is why you did not see a new mechanic and it fully turned on. If no one used it, you would of seen people having a **** storm about wasted dev time. This was the fastest and easiest way to implement and prolly took a hew hours to do it, as oppose to weeks or months, all the while if it failed, then joe blow player can't go 'wait you wasted 6 months on this crap? you could used that 6 months to fix xxx! what the hell are you think ccp'

Understand? If you want more skins buy or use the ones we have now. Show them there is demand. People ask for this, but how many people, 100? 1000? that's not a lot when you have 500k or so accounts. But if that is shown to be 100k accounts buying the skins... then there is justification in doing a full blow feature.

I am ultra familiar with minimum viable products, but is that really a rationalization for why so many of the released designs look like ass?

all we would have is **** colored thoraxes and pink caracals. Is that really want you want OP? Dickthaxes and vaginacals?

Out of curiosity, what designs would you want? Flame blue? Pin stripes? Bumble bee?

You have a limited imagination. Let the artists take over this job, instead of the coders.

I am ultra familiar with minimum viable products, but is that really a rationalization for why so many of the released designs look like ass?

Also someone missed the part explaining that as it is there are no such things as "ship skins" as far as database is concerned.
Those paint jobs are each a new ship type on it self, not just some new skins slapped on some random Hyperions.

To actually make those "skins" to what are meant by "skins" in those other games they have to make an entirely new code for it and that takes plenty of dev time, actually so much that they need to be absolutely sure that players want and buy the new ship skins (preferably with top $$ via PLEX).

whining

I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.

I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship.

Actually all lyou are doing is changing the texture. The ship code already exists. Yes, each texture change requires its own ship, but it shouldnt take as long as you say. You are just duplicating ships but with different textures.

Every new ship you release furthers my disappointment. Who wants a rusty looking paint job on a ship? That's not what players had in mind, from all the picture posts and renders of custom ships and hell even ones I did, making it a rustic looking orange spatter is not what people had in mind. Painting your ship should be about you showing it off, showing a uniqueness, and making it look badass with several customizable skin options, none of this prefab paint job nonsense. They downright are ugly, or so dark its very un-distinguishable unless you are close up. CCP would it be so hard to take players advice as is for once instead of taking the idea and attempting to put just your own spin on the idea. You have these discussion forums up for a reason, use their advice as is.

One short term soluton would have been to allow us to use the NPC ship skins. The code is already in place.

Who wants to spend money on a expensive skin that dies with the ship?

Out of curiosity, what designs would you want? Flame blue? Pin stripes? Bumble bee?

You didn't answer the question.

Because that is how aesthetics work. Not everyone is an artist, but everyone has a sense of what does and does not appeal to them when they see it.

I want a hot-pink widow.

Craigslist?

You have a limited imagination. Let the artists take over this job, instead of the coders.

There is always the option of product placement.

PEPSI logos on the ships?

I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.

I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship.

I think a lot of people are just mad because there's no "Punisher Edition" black Brutix with a big Punisher skull on the front.

But give it time. Give it time.

That is a really ****-poor comparison that has basically nothing to do with the subject at hand.

the question is: is this a "test" of the technology or a "test" of how players take to the skins?

Test of the popularity of the skins, since developing the technology to do it well is going to be resource intensive. This was all outlined in the blog.

So if you want more options, you're going to have to vote with your wallet.

I'll pass.

Offer me something worth buying first before making promises that there are better things to come. Seems CCP is still believing that garbage about "paying more attention to what players do rather than what players say."

Why complain about useless sht? Ignore it.

Skins, really?

You actually buy that crap?

Lots of people like this program and CCP are being crystal clear about how their future plans, regardless of your personal taste, aloof attitude or the fact you think you're clever for referring to emails from the Incarna debacle.

I want a hot-pink widow.

Feels like there is some irony in talking about the uselessness of skins when where all playing with pixel space ships.

Those Who Forget the Past Are Doomed to Repeat It

Awww, did you buy that patch on your eye? lololzzz

Here ya go. http://evenews24.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/pinkwidow_azajigga_issue.jpg

Where did I get it? Apparently someone wants to play as a Japanese schoolgirl in star citizen.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/86866/character-customization-can-i-play-as-a-highschool-girl

I am deeply disturbed by this person, but I do like the widow :D

That was a spectacularly empty quote. CCP created a PR disaster with Incarna, players revolted, this time they're being completely upfront about it and people are being receptive. It's a completely different scenario.

Those Who Post Quotes With A Capital Letter For Each Word Are Not As Smart As They Think They Are.

This has nothing to do with my "smarts." It has to do with skins that I dont feel are worth buying.

It's my opinion and my money. So why are you using personal attacks for stating my opinion?

I'll pass.

Offer me something worth buying first before making promises that there are better things to come. Seems CCP is still believing that garbage about "paying more attention to what players do rather than what players say."

Because you're voicing your opinion in a public forum with a snarky attitude and taking jabs at the devs that are uncalled for. As this is a public forum, I get to call you out on it.

If it was really just about your opinion and your money, you'd keep it to yourself and not spend anything.

Top tip of the day: understand the feature and its scope before complaining about it.

Fully custom paint jobs would take a lot more work than creating pre-painted skins which obviously enough people seem to be enjoying. Besides, if we gave the players the chance to paint their own ships, all we would have is **** colored thoraxes and pink caracals. Is that really want you want OP? Dickthaxes and vaginacals?

Actually vaginicals sound like it could be a legit caracal fleet composition lol. What would they be?

What i was hoping for was a wide library of paintjobs/shades to choose from. Not the current implementation via blueprints.

Yes, I too am disappointed.

Main problem for me is the mess it makes on the market.
If for every new painted option of a ship there will be new matket item, it will create a huge mess.

I think by far the best option is to make a new ship fitting slot which can recieve paint module.
It will create a new market for those paint modules and there will be a whole industry around it.
It will be easier to implement a new color etc.

This is.....elegant.

Why don't they do it like this?

You guys NEED to respect CCP a lot more than just non sense bashing it. Because at CCP people work and do what they love, they enjoy to do it and express themselves through creative thoughts and ideas into the game.

CCP is not a company for requests and heres my money.

CCP might listen and get some ideas off your ideas, but your idea is NOT an order for CCP.

Keep this in mind,.. people at CCP work and like to do what they do, its not because "oh hey I have a job and get paid".

Expectation is the mother of disappointment.