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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2006.05.11 01:41:00 -
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After watching this trailer I don't understand the reason for making it. As I was downloading it I read "Enter the mind of a veteran warrior in the final moments before his participation in an epic, thunderous clash between the Empires." and thought to myself ok cool, this is gonna be, well, epic! But after watching it I was extremely disappointed. This trailer has no direction or substance. The trailer starts off with what seems to be the opening ideas of a story and then it just trails off into a bunch of individual shots of ships randomly flying around in space and the occasional small skirmish between a few ships (which in my mind isnÆt very epic). This trailer represents more of a technical presentation geared to other game developers who would be interested in the game engine capabilities. Nothing about it explains what EVE is as a game other than the fact that itÆs set in space. Sure people who already play the game have a different respect and point of view for this trailer but whatÆs the point of marketing to people who already play the game. ItÆs a waste of time and resources for a presentation like this which was more than likely made for E3 to draw new players in. To those people who have never played the game this trailer does nothing to help them understand how EVE is a truly unique gaming experience. Marketing is more than just putting together a bunch of random shots of ships flying around with cool ôlook what I can doö post effects, it takes a lot of research into who your actually marketing the game to, in other words your target audience. Marketing is about gaining the interest of people who have no idea what you do or what your about and pulling them in through engaging and interesting content. This trailer has absolutely no content in that respect. People who have never played the game donÆt know what they are looking at is a Titan, they just see a big ship. Why is this any different than the hundreds of other games that have big ships? This trailer could have been a great opportunity to show why EVE is such a great game. It could have shown how EVEÆs content is player driven. It could have shown how EVE has a player run economy. It could have shown the great PvP aspects of EVE which is years ahead of anything else out there. These are just a few of the things that I feel would attract people and get them interested in playing this game. I never understood why the marketing team for EVE is afraid to show or represent the players contributions and accomplishments in the game. That is a unique gaming experience and something IÆm sure would draw the attention of others outside of the community. Every gamer out there wants to be able to make a difference in the game they play. They want the fame and popularity of being the one who made a difference. Sure you might read this and say well EVE is one of the fastest growing MMORPG games out there. I agree, it is. But that is largely due to the communityÆs efforts and word of mouth from people who already play this game. These are the people who are gaining the interest of new players.
If nothing more why not spend the time and put together a series of shots that work together to tell a story. For instance start off with following a single ship, say a frigate as it enters a epic battle and then show several shots after that of the battle playing out. Sure it takes a little thought, a little planning, and a little more effort. But look at successful game trailers and cut scenes. They tell a mini story and draw you in to what the game is about and make you want to be a part of that story and even be the hero of that story. ThatÆs what presentations like this are about. Maybe CCP doesnÆt have the budget for marketing like this but as with any investment there are risks and rewards. I really hope future trailers for this game have the same desire and vision CCP had when they created this game.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.05.11 02:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Biff Steel
After watching this trailer I don't understand the reason for making it. As I was downloading it I read "Enter the mind of a veteran warrior in the final moments before his participation in an epic, thunderous clash between the Empires." and thought to myself ok cool, this is gonna be, well, epic! But after watching it I was extremely disappointed. This trailer has no direction or substance. The trailer starts off with what seems to be the opening ideas of a story and then it just trails off into a bunch of individual shots of ships randomly flying around in space and the occasional small skirmish between a few ships (which in my mind isnÆt very epic). This trailer represents more of a technical presentation geared to other game developers who would be interested in the game engine capabilities. Nothing about it explains what EVE is as a game other than the fact that itÆs set in space. Sure people who already play the game have a different respect and point of view for this trailer but whatÆs the point of marketing to people who already play the game. ItÆs a waste of time and resources for a presentation like this which was more than likely made for E3 to draw new players in. To those people who have never played the game this trailer does nothing to help them understand how EVE is a truly unique gaming experience. Marketing is more than just putting together a bunch of random shots of ships flying around with cool ôlook what I can doö post effects, it takes a lot of research into who your actually marketing the game to, in other words your target audience. Marketing is about gaining the interest of people who have no idea what you do or what your about and pulling them in through engaging and interesting content. This trailer has absolutely no content in that respect. People who have never played the game donÆt know what they are looking at is a Titan, they just see a big ship. Why is this any different than the hundreds of other games that have big ships? This trailer could have been a great opportunity to show why EVE is such a great game. It could have shown how EVEÆs content is player driven. It could have shown how EVE has a player run economy. It could have shown the great PvP aspects of EVE which is years ahead of anything else out there. These are just a few of the things that I feel would attract people and get them interested in playing this game. I never understood why the marketing team for EVE is afraid to show or represent the players contributions and accomplishments in the game. That is a unique gaming experience and something IÆm sure would draw the attention of others outside of the community. Every gamer out there wants to be able to make a difference in the game they play. They want the fame and popularity of being the one who made a difference. Sure you might read this and say well EVE is one of the fastest growing MMORPG games out there. I agree, it is. But that is largely due to the communityÆs efforts and word of mouth from people who already play this game. These are the people who are gaining the interest of new players.
If nothing more why not spend the time and put together a series of shots that work together to tell a story. For instance start off with following a single ship, say a frigate as it enters a epic battle and then show several shots after that of the battle playing out. Sure it takes a little thought, a little planning, and a little more effort. But look at successful game trailers and cut scenes. They tell a mini story and draw you in to what the game is about and make you want to be a part of that story and even be the hero of that story. ThatÆs what presentations like this are about. Maybe CCP doesnÆt have the budget for marketing like this but as with any investment there are risks and rewards. I really hope future trailers for this game have the same desire and vision CCP had when they created this game.
Only words that comes to my mind is..
Shush.
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2006.05.11 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Blind Man on 11/05/2006 02:23:22
Originally by: Biff Steel
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Paragraphs are your friend.
Passari will never be safe again
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Michiyo Daishi
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Posted - 2006.05.11 04:20:00 -
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True its just marketing for E3, but dammed be the gods if this doesnt wet ANYONE's appetite.
And besides, EVE has a way to polish "gems-in-the-rough" newbies for the always-growing playerbase 
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Karch
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Posted - 2006.05.11 05:23:00 -
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That video was awesome. :)
First time I've ever seen some of the big ships besides in photos (I've seen Dreads around, but not the others).
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.05.11 06:10:00 -
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Biff, I agree with your sentiments to a point, but it seems to me like the description of the trailer and the actual content are two different animals. This trailer is about one thing - visual overload and it does that very well.
What you describe would take a bit more narration and a totally different approach. I'd love to see such a thing, but it doesn't make me disappointed in this effort in any way. 
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Nooey
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Posted - 2006.05.11 06:46:00 -
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Awesome.
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Dreez
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Posted - 2006.05.11 07:16:00 -
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I normaly dont download MC movies, but this movie was just
frikkin awesome. And you of all ppl should know Loxy that
i always speak my mind eventhou it is not always appreciated  .
Very nice work Loxy.
/Sidenote: Biff - Your idTa sounds great.
Current Location: After 2 years of waiting, getting ready for another hunt.
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Misha Mosqito
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Posted - 2006.05.11 08:24:00 -
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i clap my hands. very nice work!!!
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Meridius
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Posted - 2006.05.11 09:13:00 -
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zomg sweet
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.05.11 09:21:00 -
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VETO RECRUITMENT
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Logan Xerxes
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:29:00 -
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Oh. My. God. I can't wait till the new upgrades!!!
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Hellraiza666
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dreez
I normaly dont download MC movies, but this movie was just
frikkin awesome. And you of all ppl should know Loxy that
i always speak my mind eventhou it is not always appreciated .
Very nice work Loxy.
/Sidenote: Biff - Your idTa sounds great.
it isnt loxys video.... zond from CCP made it, its an eve trailer.
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Eteoneus
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:48:00 -
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Very nice vid! And dispite the lack of some content it's one hell of a good promotion video! Well done!!!
BTW: It look like it's shot with the news EVE engine that is used under Windows Vista and DirectX 10. Isn't it? The textures made me think of that.
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Specture
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Posted - 2006.05.12 09:12:00 -
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the gunless hawks/ harrpys, MWDing ravens, and who brings a freightor in for a big fight?  oh yea and ususually my battleships does backflips before warping when I am in structure too.... it's kinda *** 
either than that yea it's an okay movie
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Lluthiunne Atalaron
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Posted - 2006.05.12 09:29:00 -
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The movie is the nutz, I found it the most impressive vid from this years E3 so far.
I completely understand about the stroy telling aspect but this is a quick lets blow your pants off trailer, and it does this admirably.
My only criticism is that because this was an action filled visual explosion. They should have dropped that narration at the start and opted for a better lead in.
I didnt like the narration actually i hated it. It was cheese incarnate, like the voice actor willed himself into existance from a lump of stale cheddar.
Listen to it again 'The firey fire is firesome indeed'
Shudder.
Astounding clip, though i think if they are pushed for time they should either choose to do an action oriented clip or tell a story you cant do both.
>> The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell and a hell of heaven <<
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2006.05.12 10:16:00 -
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 Where did I leave the tissues 
FANTASTIC choice of music for that, BSE ftw and that new Amarr BS makes me in the lower regions...
I R t3h Bexleh lol |
Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2006.05.12 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Bexxly
Where did I leave the tissues
FANTASTIC choice of music for that, BSE ftw and that new Amarr BS makes me in the lower regions...
I agree with my baby alt 
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.05.12 12:30:00 -
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Velios
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Posted - 2006.05.12 12:51:00 -
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Zond Mate :) great video as usual!
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Pradege D'Hallur
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Posted - 2006.05.12 17:05:00 -
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When we die God's job is to judge us..........My job is to arrange that meeting
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xMindeRx
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Posted - 2006.05.12 22:06:00 -
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ahhhh, just what i needed, swweeeeet!, gimme that song :P
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Hornster
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:36:00 -
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OMFG
LOXY YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN!!!!
I love your vids man i wanna fly with u lol, bet if i did u would super impose me in a titan kicking every1's arse lol :P
SNRA 4tw |
Dracolich
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:53:00 -
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That just blew my head off. 11/10 for tune. 13/10 for vid.
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Plan Neun
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Posted - 2006.05.13 15:37:00 -
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Holy crap what a viddy.
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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Khadur
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Posted - 2006.05.13 16:47:00 -
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/me came in pants
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Turiel Demon
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Posted - 2006.05.13 23:10:00 -
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meh, pretty lights 
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nothing to see here, move along nicely now, is that a pink dread out there. aaww you just missed it -eris
It's not an Eidolon with 5 Basic Miner's on it, that's for certain.(FF04) ~kieron
No love for me? :'( - Wrangler
If you can't beat Eris, join her, hmmm that sounded so much better in my head - Cortes
Cuddles Eeyore. He's soooo cute and doesn't play EVE. perfect -eris
Eve-online Forum mods arn't Pokemon, you don't need to collect them all - Ductoris
Here's my autograph - now do I get some groupie lub? Jacques'
Don't be greedy :P -Capsicum |
Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.05.13 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hornster
OMFG
LOXY YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN!!!!
I love your vids man i wanna fly with u lol, bet if i did u would super impose me in a titan kicking every1's arse lol :P
Say wot?
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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undrground
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Posted - 2006.05.14 01:24:00 -
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excuse me while i change my box0rs
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Khanid aleen
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Posted - 2006.05.14 11:40:00 -
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Amazing.....
I loved it. CCP one again uses thier amazing ability to create a movie that makes me wanna play eve everytime i watch it. And for all you haters that think this movie was a disapointment, could you do any better?
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