There's about 3-4 months where a new player cannot fit a competitive PvP cruiser.

ARGH, CCP FIX EVE SO IT HAS AN EASY MODE.

I wonder how many will fall for this obvious trollthread,
even when I mention that it's an obvious troll thread.

I'd love to write a scientific paper about the mindlessness of people.

Dudet your face!!!



I like Soup.

IGÇÖm not usually the type to call out gaming companies with my forum posts. This time IGÇÖm going to.
CCP is a very successful, clever and virtuous gaming company. But they do make mistakes.

Foremost among their mistakes is the power gap between the brand new player and the seasoned veteran.
There's about 3-4 months where a new player cannot fit a competitive PvP cruiser.
3-4 months, which is nothing compared to the years upon years the vets have had to hone their abilities.
3-4 months, which seems massive to new players.

I cannot overstate how discouraging a wait of this period is to prospective new customers.
They look at the state of the game and think "Wow, four months before I can even be effective? And then lets say I want to stop brawling with my Gallente ship and start kiting, I'll have to wait another two or three months to try that!?"

Now, most of the skill progression in EVE is balanced. CCP have done a wonderful job in letting the average age characters compete with the very old ones. No one wants the training time for a supercapital or titan reduced.

However, the first three months of the new player's game play should be radically overhauled.
Players should start with all the skills needed to fly one race's well fit t1 frigates and cruisers.
From there, they can decide what secondary ships and weapons systems they want to train to become more versatileGÇö or simply go up in size with their primary race.

The common argument against this is that it devalues the power of veterans.
But when you consider things carefully, 3-4 months is almost nothing to experienced players. In fact many of the skills we want to train take upwards of a month to complete anyway.

No, giving new players this level of starting SP would hardly affect experienced players.
But it would greatly affect new players. Many more people who try EVE for the first time would be retained and become paying customers.
In turn, this makes New Eden a more fun and exciting place for players like myself who have been around for a while.

Didn't a thread that said exactly this just get locked like 20 minutes ago?

I wonder how many will fall for this obvious trollthread,
even when I mention that it's an obvious troll thread.

I'd love to write a scientific paper about the mindlessness of people.

There's about 3-4 months where a new player cannot fit a competitive PvP cruiser.

Foremost among their mistakes is the power gap between the brand new player and the seasoned veteran.
There's about 3-4 months where a new player cannot fit a competitive PvP cruiser.
3-4 months, which is nothing compared to the years upon years the vets have had to hone their abilities.
3-4 months, which seems massive to new players.

As you, too, post in a troll thread.

I, too, would also love to write a scientific paper about the phenomenon of knowing something is a troll thread but posting in it anyway.

Whiny Stuff...

Well, one could argue that posting in a troll thread, as a troll, you would simply be group trolling.

In this case, we are group trolling the other guy who threadnaughted his troll.

And because lock was imminent there, this lovely thread was created to continue the "discussion."

I need to write a scientific paper on "Trolling Mechanics in E:O GD."

Well, one could argue that posting in a troll thread, as a troll, you would simply be group trolling.

In this case, we are group trolling the other guy who threadnaughted his troll.

And because lock was imminent there, this lovely thread was created to continue the "discussion."

I need to write a scientific paper on "Trolling Mechanics in E:O GD."

Stop being meta, that's my thing alone! lol

Trolling in a troll thread isn't trolling, but posting on-topic. The people being serious in their posting are technically being the trolls.

As a new player (couple of months in) I think that skill progression is fine.

Takes a few minutes to get the basic concept, takes a few days or weeks (obviously dependent on the skill multiplier level) to get a good handle on it (skill level IV).

The more difficult skills take longer.

The only change that I would make is to have the skill queue for more than 24 hours, say a a week or so.

Problem with a longer skill queue, is that does not incentivize logging into the game, where you have even the smallest chance to effect the sandbox.

It instead promotes playing Skill Queue: Online, which is totally not fun.

Just saying.

If people didn't want things faster, then EvE wouldn't exist.

There would've been no need to travel faster than light because they'd have been content with whatever slow ass "back in my day" methods they used to get from place to place.

Interceptors top speed would be 10meters a second because every other ship would be content with traveling 1m/s.

I can't believe you actually posted this.