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Michael1995
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:46:00 -
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It sounds like you need to go join Ragnarok in their eviction of goonswarm's pulsar.
One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm. |
Durzel
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
228
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Posted - 2014.04.14 11:49:00 -
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Two things to be aware of with regard to wormhole intel for the uninitiated (nullsec people)..
1) CCP let the genie out of the bottle when they published a data dump with all of the wormhole data (signature IDs, masses, statics, etc) in an Inferno update. They removed it afterwards but by then the information was then in the public domain. They really ought to have switched things around by that point but even if they had the basic mechanics would've still been known - i.e. mass limits, etc
2) The information that wormhol.es used as the basis for its principal function (guessing who is resident) wasn't actually based off of any of this information anyway. The entire conceit of it was based off of killmail data - since kills and losses in the same w-space systems are fairly notable as compared to k-space because of the mechanics of how wormholes are accessed. Someone who finds themselves on killboards in the same J-system on a regular basis is either fantastically unlucky in rolling or finding the same hole, or is living there.
There was quite a lot I wanted to do with wormhol.es, and may hopefully do in the future, in particular the data is there in the kills and losses database to work out who peoples allies are, or even their propensity to bait with OOC chars, etc. The nature of aggregated kills in w-space is such that you can make some pretty strong assumptions that you couldn't make in k-space - where people can move caps around easily with cynos, change the place they live and operate out of frequently, etc.
The above all said and done CCP perhaps ought to stop NPC kills being shown in w-space, not because of supporting carebears but simply because they've established a precedent for removing jumps and location agent results indicating that they see the space as unreachable by normal intel channels... |
Alundil
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
464
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:12:00 -
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Saede Riordan wrote:This topic was good before it was arguing.
Agreed.
Clone mechanics enchancements
Deep Space Probe Revival |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
305
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:22:00 -
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As an update, eleet pasta broski Lucia Denniard (all credit to her) has kindly fixed some aspects of wormhol.es, it's hosted here: Looks it's been fixed to work with zKillboard now and also EVE Census.
http://wh.pasta.gg
Edit: Lol well maybe not completely fixed, I've already broke it, but whatever. |
Braxus Deninard
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
376
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:36:00 -
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It's awesome to see that someone took up the project. Perhaps not the most accurate on intel for who lives in a system, since it has no idea on the homes of some major entities when previously it did, but it's a work in progress of course and great to see it back up again.
Hopefully siggy and other tools can have their shortcuts for the site to the new address if this new site is really up for the foreseeable future. |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
305
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:11:00 -
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Braxus Deninard wrote:It's awesome to see that someone took up the project. Perhaps not the most accurate on intel for who lives in a system, since it has no idea on the homes of some major entities when previously it did, but it's a work in progress of course and great to see it back up again.
Hopefully siggy and other tools can have their shortcuts for the site to the new address if this new site is really up for the foreseeable future.
Yea, looks like it has some problems with historical data which may be a result of it only being up for a couple, but I couldn't say for sure. Hopefully Lucia can continue to improve and fix it. |
Andrew Jester
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
125
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:54:00 -
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Angsty Teenager wrote:As an update, eleet pasta broski Lucia Denniard (all credit to her) has kindly fixed some aspects of wormhol.es, it's hosted here: Looks it's been fixed to work with zKillboard now and also EVE Census. http://wh.pasta.gg/J114315Edit: Lol well maybe not completely fixed, I've already broke it, heh.
The QA tester we need, not the one we deserve. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
2152
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:56:00 -
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Saints be praised! (also Lucia Denniard) .
"You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
Morphisat
Millard Innovation Inc
The 20 Minuters
54
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Posted - 2014.04.20 14:29:00 -
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Ah I just pulled the source today and was looking into it. Seems like it wasn't broken very much, but the links and the handling of the json from Zkillboard needed to be fixed. Just noticed someone else did just that  .
In case there is still need for help or it needs a place to be hosted, I'd be willing to help.
To Durzel: Thanks for creating this and I am very sorry for you loss  .
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ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii
The 20 Minuters
34
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Posted - 2014.04.20 16:30:00 -
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Angsty Teenager wrote:
Firstly im not sure why you think anybody would catch people running sites by leaving their static open till the people in the static would run sites, I hope you realize everybody who runs sites collapses or crits all WH's in their system before they do sites, you won't ever catch anybody running sites through a wormhole that was open before they started running sites, unless they are exceptionally stupid. You have two ways at the moment. You either get lucky and roll into them the second they are doing sites, or you do a logoff trap.
Class 4/5 residents perhaps, sure. But what you say certainly isn't the case for everyone. That's what eyes are for. |
Tyrant Scorn
181
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Posted - 2014.04.20 17:37:00 -
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Angsty Teenager wrote:From the site: Quote:Due to real life issues I am on a long term hiatus from Eve and am therefore not currently doing any work on wormhol.es and don't forsee being able to do any for the forseeable future. I'm therefore releasing the full source code for anyone who would like to integrate and improve upon it. You can download it from Github here. The website will continue to operate for those people who just want to be able to use it in game. Can somebody please pick up this project? It is a fantastic tool, I'd hate to see it die. First wormnav and now wormhol.es,
I have a copy of the site running. I am working on fixing some SQL issues that were the result of transferring the old server data to my server.
There is hardly any info on how to properly install it so I am working on it as best I can. Any help would be greatly appreciated, so if you have experience with SQL an PHP, please contact me by evemail.
The site is running on: http://website.legacyofacapsuleer.com
Host at Legacy Of A Capsuleer Podcast
www.legacyofacapsuleer.com |
MrTheGeoff
Laurentson INC
StructureDamage
5
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Posted - 2014.04.21 05:47:00 -
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ArmEagle Kusoni wrote:Angsty Teenager wrote:
Firstly im not sure why you think anybody would catch people running sites by leaving their static open till the people in the static would run sites, I hope you realize everybody who runs sites collapses or crits all WH's in their system before they do sites, you won't ever catch anybody running sites through a wormhole that was open before they started running sites, unless they are exceptionally stupid. You have two ways at the moment. You either get lucky and roll into them the second they are doing sites, or you do a logoff trap.
Class 4/5 residents perhaps, sure. But what you say certainly isn't the case for everyone. That's what eyes are for.
True, we live in a C2. We make most of our money by raiding our C5 static. This means
a) we don't have any capitals to hand to quickly close all other connections to our static
b) we have to leave at least one open wormhole (the one to get us home) which doubles the chance of someone stumbling across us
Anyway back on topic thanks to Lucia Denniard and everyone else who has helped her test it, this takes the pressure off our own in house techies who were taking baby steps towards building their own intel tool. |
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